Outbreaks at two centers in Colorado

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The NOVA daycare near us has been open this whole time and hasn’t had any issues. I wonder if it’s just luck or they have more precautions in place.

Do you attend there or are you just assuming because it hasn’t been on the news? Sick parents and siblings wouldn’t be considered an outbreak at a center, even if a kid brought it home. It would have to be multiple children and teachers testing positive.

My friend yesterday said she’s sending her kid back there (she had been keeping the kid home since mid March). And I asked if they had any cases in students or teachers and she said no. They are doctors so I don’t think she is making that up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know someone whose child attends one of the CO day care facilities. The child caught it and brought home to one of the siblings. There is one more child in the household who they have been keeping isolated. 7 kids at the daycare have been diagnosed. This is proof that it's too soon to reopen.

Why do you think anything would be different 6 months from now? 12 months? Why wouldnt this happen then? And dont tell me we'll have a vaccine by then.

Things will be different when a lot more people recover and donate plasma. And there are well established measures in place to prevent and/or treat many of the serious complications.

Show me evidence of plasma efficacy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People need to get used to the idea that you're likely going to get Covid and you're likely going to be okay. That's the fact. Whether we quarantine forever or not.

I’m glad you’re an optimist, but realistically, not everyone is going to be ok. Some will die, some will suffer lifelong complications, and all will infect others who may meet the same fate.

Pp thinks those people are irrelevant.

Yes, that's TOTALLY what that person said. Because we can't discuss relative risk of complications for various demographic groups without being called callous.

?? The first pp wasn’t discussing relative risk of complications for various groups. That pp assumed that the people reading the comment aren’t high risk (some of us are, or have kids who are, etc.), and attempted to reassure people that they’re going to be fine. No, some of us won’t be fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People need to get used to the idea that you're likely going to get Covid and you're likely going to be okay. That's the fact. Whether we quarantine forever or not.

I’m glad you’re an optimist, but realistically, not everyone is going to be ok. Some will die, some will suffer lifelong complications, and all will infect others who may meet the same fate.

Pp thinks those people are irrelevant.

Yes, that's TOTALLY what that person said. Because we can't discuss relative risk of complications for various demographic groups without being called callous.

?? The first pp wasn’t discussing relative risk of complications for various groups. That pp assumed that the people reading the comment aren’t high risk (some of us are, or have kids who are, etc.), and attempted to reassure people that they’re going to be fine. No, some of us won’t be fine.

The PP literally said "likely." You're the one twisting words.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People need to get used to the idea that you're likely going to get Covid and you're likely going to be okay. That's the fact. Whether we quarantine forever or not.

I’m glad you’re an optimist, but realistically, not everyone is going to be ok. Some will die, some will suffer lifelong complications, and all will infect others who may meet the same fate.

Pp thinks those people are irrelevant.

Yes, that's TOTALLY what that person said. Because we can't discuss relative risk of complications for various demographic groups without being called callous.

?? The first pp wasn’t discussing relative risk of complications for various groups. That pp assumed that the people reading the comment aren’t high risk (some of us are, or have kids who are, etc.), and attempted to reassure people that they’re going to be fine. No, some of us won’t be fine.

Given that most people recover from this, it's a good bet that any given person you're talking to *will* recover. The fact that you are high risk doesn't obviate the fact that the probability is any given person you're talking to will recover.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think until there is a rapid test that the kids can take every am at drop off the risk is too high for me.

You realize you can have the virus and not test positive, if it's early in the virus course, right?

So a test isn't a guarantee either. If you're looking for a guarantee, you're better off just keeping your kid out until there's a vaccine.

People keep writing this - but if you aren't testing positive (at the moment) even assuming you actually do have the virus in its early stages you clearly aren't shedding enough of a viral load to infect anyone (since you aren't even producing enough virus for a positive test). Perhaps during the day there is a slight chance that your load increases enough to be infectious. In any event, the next morning when you take your test before entry into work or school or whatever, at that point you would test positive (and wouldn't enter). Obviously daily testing would greatly, greatly reduce the odds of bringing an infection into a center/worksite/airplane/whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know someone whose child attends one of the CO day care facilities. The child caught it and brought home to one of the siblings. There is one more child in the household who they have been keeping isolated. 7 kids at the daycare have been diagnosed. This is proof that it's too soon to reopen.

Why do you think anything would be different 6 months from now? 12 months? Why wouldnt this happen then? And dont tell me we'll have a vaccine by then.

Things will be different when a lot more people recover and donate plasma. And there are well established measures in place to prevent and/or treat many of the serious complications.

Show me evidence of plasma efficacy.

Easy enough to google, but I’ll bite.

https://www.hematology.org/covid-19/covid-19-and-convalescent-plasma

https://ccpp19.org/key-scientific-papers/index.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People need to get used to the idea that you're likely going to get Covid and you're likely going to be okay. That's the fact. Whether we quarantine forever or not.

I’m glad you’re an optimist, but realistically, not everyone is going to be ok. Some will die, some will suffer lifelong complications, and all will infect others who may meet the same fate.

Pp thinks those people are irrelevant.

Yes, that's TOTALLY what that person said. Because we can't discuss relative risk of complications for various demographic groups without being called callous.

?? The first pp wasn’t discussing relative risk of complications for various groups. That pp assumed that the people reading the comment aren’t high risk (some of us are, or have kids who are, etc.), and attempted to reassure people that they’re going to be fine. No, some of us won’t be fine.

The PP literally said "likely." You're the one twisting words.

Okay then, that pp likely thinks those people are irrelevant. Better?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People need to get used to the idea that you're likely going to get Covid and you're likely going to be okay. That's the fact. Whether we quarantine forever or not.

I’m glad you’re an optimist, but realistically, not everyone is going to be ok. Some will die, some will suffer lifelong complications, and all will infect others who may meet the same fate.

Pp thinks those people are irrelevant.

Yes, that's TOTALLY what that person said. Because we can't discuss relative risk of complications for various demographic groups without being called callous.

?? The first pp wasn’t discussing relative risk of complications for various groups. That pp assumed that the people reading the comment aren’t high risk (some of us are, or have kids who are, etc.), and attempted to reassure people that they’re going to be fine. No, some of us won’t be fine.

The PP literally said "likely." You're the one twisting words.

Okay then, that pp likely thinks those people are irrelevant. Better?

You're being ridiculous. - NP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People need to get used to the idea that you're likely going to get Covid and you're likely going to be okay. That's the fact. Whether we quarantine forever or not.

I’m glad you’re an optimist, but realistically, not everyone is going to be ok. Some will die, some will suffer lifelong complications, and all will infect others who may meet the same fate.

Pp thinks those people are irrelevant.

Yes, that's TOTALLY what that person said. Because we can't discuss relative risk of complications for various demographic groups without being called callous.

?? The first pp wasn’t discussing relative risk of complications for various groups. That pp assumed that the people reading the comment aren’t high risk (some of us are, or have kids who are, etc.), and attempted to reassure people that they’re going to be fine. No, some of us won’t be fine.

The PP literally said "likely." You're the one twisting words.

Okay then, that pp likely thinks those people are irrelevant. Better?

Nope not better. You're clearly reading in what you want to read in because you don't like the message.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People need to get used to the idea that you're likely going to get Covid and you're likely going to be okay. That's the fact. Whether we quarantine forever or not.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People need to get used to the idea that you're likely going to get Covid and you're likely going to be okay. That's the fact. Whether we quarantine forever or not.

I’m glad you’re an optimist, but realistically, not everyone is going to be ok. Some will die, some will suffer lifelong complications, and all will infect others who may meet the same fate.

Pp thinks those people are irrelevant.

Yes, that's TOTALLY what that person said. Because we can't discuss relative risk of complications for various demographic groups without being called callous.

?? The first pp wasn’t discussing relative risk of complications for various groups. That pp assumed that the people reading the comment aren’t high risk (some of us are, or have kids who are, etc.), and attempted to reassure people that they’re going to be fine. No, some of us won’t be fine.

The PP literally said "likely." You're the one twisting words.

sock puppet

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The NOVA daycare near us has been open this whole time and hasn’t had any issues. I wonder if it’s just luck or they have more precautions in place.

Well yeah because everything else in Nova was shutdown.

[Anonymous]

As stay at home orders are lifted, this will happen over and over again-its the new normal until we have medication or a vaccine. There is no way to 100% guarantee safe public acitivities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As stay at home orders are lifted, this will happen over and over again-its the new normal until we have medication or a vaccine. There is no way to 100% guarantee safe public acitivities.

Now you are the one who is twisting words. Nobody said anything about 100% guaranteed safe. But having a disease outbreak within a few weeks (days?) of re-opening means that something is not working correctly. Having disease sweep unchallenged through communities is not helpful for the economy either.