MCPS - A Modest Proposal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would not work. It would be chaos. Think about email
Before threads. Kids as young as 8 know google classroom. It already has these capabilities with subgroups/assignments.

Plus kids are already doing this on their own.

Exactly. And teachers should tap into this. What good is it to do it on their own when we're talking about how to do distance LEARNING?

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GOOGLE CLASSROOM
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CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION
CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION
CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION
CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION

OP proposed something that MCPS is already doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would not work. It would be chaos. Think about email
Before threads. Kids as young as 8 know google classroom. It already has these capabilities with subgroups/assignments.

Plus kids are already doing this on their own.

Exactly. And teachers should tap into this. What good is it to do it on their own when we're talking about how to do distance LEARNING?

'

GOOGLE CLASSROOM
GOOGLE CLASSROOM
GOOGLE CLASSROOM
GOOGLE CLASSROOM

CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION
CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION
CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION
CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION

OP proposed something that MCPS is already doing.

at least that's a full sentence. I don't see that google classroom is the same as a listserv.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would not work. It would be chaos. Think about email
Before threads. Kids as young as 8 know google classroom. It already has these capabilities with subgroups/assignments.

Plus kids are already doing this on their own.

Exactly. And teachers should tap into this. What good is it to do it on their own when we're talking about how to do distance LEARNING?

'

GOOGLE CLASSROOM
GOOGLE CLASSROOM
GOOGLE CLASSROOM
GOOGLE CLASSROOM

CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION
CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION
CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION
CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION

OP proposed something that MCPS is already doing.

at least that's a full sentence. I don't see that google classroom is the same as a listserv.

Google Classroom does everything the OP wants to do.

[Anonymous]

OP-Are you on Next Door? That is essentially a listserv for neighborhoods. It's a great example of how well they can work but also how out of hand a "conversation" can get, very quickly.

Or, think about DCUM threads... yes this is anonymous and what you are proposing is not, but kids/teens don't think about/realize that.

If you've ever seen a "group chat" that involves a bunch of tweens, you'd realize how little is actually said/accomplished in a series of 10-20 messages.

Here's a typical example:
S'up?
IDK
Poop emoji
thumbs up
What's the homework
IDK
Anyone have Chipotle
Chipotle!!
Yum!
IKR
S'up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would not work. It would be chaos. Think about email
Before threads. Kids as young as 8 know google classroom. It already has these capabilities with subgroups/assignments.

Plus kids are already doing this on their own.

Exactly. And teachers should tap into this. What good is it to do it on their own when we're talking about how to do distance LEARNING?

I think you really just have to trust teachers to know their kids and figure out what's going to be most effective and useful for everyone. The first step is checking in to make sure they're out there and receiving communication. No learning can happen if 1/4 of your kids are AWOL.

This is triage. We need to make sure they are okay. Then we can try to do some learning.

You sound like an idiot. We are not "triaging". Do you even know what the word means? What needs other than educational are teachers going to address with emails and zoom meetings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP-Are you on Next Door? That is essentially a listserv for neighborhoods. It's a great example of how well they can work but also how out of hand a "conversation" can get, very quickly.

Or, think about DCUM threads... yes this is anonymous and what you are proposing is not, but kids/teens don't think about/realize that.

If you've ever seen a "group chat" that involves a bunch of tweens, you'd realize how little is actually said/accomplished in a series of 10-20 messages.

Here's a typical example:
S'up?
IDK
Poop emoji
thumbs up
What's the homework
IDK
Anyone have Chipotle
Chipotle!!
Yum!
IKR
S'up

I'm not on NextDoor but I am on a neighborhood io listserv, like I said, there are robust conversations going on on a variety of topics on any given day. The examples you post of tween posts would have to be addressed by the teachers, just as they would be in a regular classroom. Students would have to conform to expectations of what to say, just as they would in a classroom. etc. Seems super simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP-Are you on Next Door? That is essentially a listserv for neighborhoods. It's a great example of how well they can work but also how out of hand a "conversation" can get, very quickly.

Or, think about DCUM threads... yes this is anonymous and what you are proposing is not, but kids/teens don't think about/realize that.

If you've ever seen a "group chat" that involves a bunch of tweens, you'd realize how little is actually said/accomplished in a series of 10-20 messages.

Here's a typical example:
S'up?
IDK
Poop emoji
thumbs up
What's the homework
IDK
Anyone have Chipotle
Chipotle!!
Yum!
IKR
S'up

I'm not on NextDoor but I am on a neighborhood io listserv, like I said, there are robust conversations going on on a variety of topics on any given day. The examples you post of tween posts would have to be addressed by the teachers, just as they would be in a regular classroom. Students would have to conform to expectations of what to say, just as they would in a classroom. etc. Seems super simple.

What would be the point of a whole new listserv when they are already doing this stuff on Google Classrooms?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would not work. It would be chaos. Think about email
Before threads. Kids as young as 8 know google classroom. It already has these capabilities with subgroups/assignments.

Plus kids are already doing this on their own.

Exactly. And teachers should tap into this. What good is it to do it on their own when we're talking about how to do distance LEARNING?

I think you really just have to trust teachers to know their kids and figure out what's going to be most effective and useful for everyone. The first step is checking in to make sure they're out there and receiving communication. No learning can happen if 1/4 of your kids are AWOL.

This is triage. We need to make sure they are okay. Then we can try to do some learning.

Not all kids have internet at home. Those with outstanding bills cannot get free internet. Not everyone has devices as some people were greedy and took them who didn't need them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would not work. It would be chaos. Think about email
Before threads. Kids as young as 8 know google classroom. It already has these capabilities with subgroups/assignments.

Plus kids are already doing this on their own.

Exactly. And teachers should tap into this. What good is it to do it on their own when we're talking about how to do distance LEARNING?

I think you really just have to trust teachers to know their kids and figure out what's going to be most effective and useful for everyone. The first step is checking in to make sure they're out there and receiving communication. No learning can happen if 1/4 of your kids are AWOL.

This is triage. We need to make sure they are okay. Then we can try to do some learning.

Not all kids have internet at home. Those with outstanding bills cannot get free internet. Not everyone has devices as some people were greedy and took them who didn't need them.

There are still Chromebooks left for people who need Chromebooks. My kid's high school just sent out an e-mail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would not work. It would be chaos. Think about email
Before threads. Kids as young as 8 know google classroom. It already has these capabilities with subgroups/assignments.

Plus kids are already doing this on their own.

Exactly. And teachers should tap into this. What good is it to do it on their own when we're talking about how to do distance LEARNING?

I think you really just have to trust teachers to know their kids and figure out what's going to be most effective and useful for everyone. The first step is checking in to make sure they're out there and receiving communication. No learning can happen if 1/4 of your kids are AWOL.

This is triage. We need to make sure they are okay. Then we can try to do some learning.

Not all kids have internet at home. Those with outstanding bills cannot get free internet. Not everyone has devices as some people were greedy and took them who didn't need them.

Comcast should make exceptions for MCPS students whose families owe them money. I hope MCPS is negotiating this for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would not work. It would be chaos. Think about email
Before threads. Kids as young as 8 know google classroom. It already has these capabilities with subgroups/assignments.

Plus kids are already doing this on their own.

Exactly. And teachers should tap into this. What good is it to do it on their own when we're talking about how to do distance LEARNING?

I think you really just have to trust teachers to know their kids and figure out what's going to be most effective and useful for everyone. The first step is checking in to make sure they're out there and receiving communication. No learning can happen if 1/4 of your kids are AWOL.

This is triage. We need to make sure they are okay. Then we can try to do some learning.

Not all kids have internet at home. Those with outstanding bills cannot get free internet. Not everyone has devices as some people were greedy and took them who didn't need them.

Comcast should make exceptions for MCPS students whose families owe them money. I hope MCPS is negotiating this for them.

It doesn’t help if Comcast has never before serviced where you live because they won’t make new hookups. They are just offering the service.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would not work. It would be chaos. Think about email
Before threads. Kids as young as 8 know google classroom. It already has these capabilities with subgroups/assignments.

Plus kids are already doing this on their own.

Exactly. And teachers should tap into this. What good is it to do it on their own when we're talking about how to do distance LEARNING?

I think you really just have to trust teachers to know their kids and figure out what's going to be most effective and useful for everyone. The first step is checking in to make sure they're out there and receiving communication. No learning can happen if 1/4 of your kids are AWOL.

This is triage. We need to make sure they are okay. Then we can try to do some learning.

You sound like an idiot. We are not "triaging". Do you even know what the word means? What needs other than educational are teachers going to address with emails and zoom meetings.

- Are you doing okay? (some kids have anxiety, or emotional disorders, or lack of access to resources, or are with abusive families)
- Do you have everything you need? (some kids and families may not know about or can't get chrome books easily, they may need multiple devices at home, they may not have internet at home - what about single parent families where perhaps the parent is an essential worker?)
- Do you know where and how to get free lunch?
- Do you feel like you need me to help you access counseling resources?
- Are you there? Are you even getting this information?
- Do you care for younger siblings if your parents are essential workers?


And then we can talk about instruction. You sound like an awful person, JFC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would not work. It would be chaos. Think about email
Before threads. Kids as young as 8 know google classroom. It already has these capabilities with subgroups/assignments.

Plus kids are already doing this on their own.

Exactly. And teachers should tap into this. What good is it to do it on their own when we're talking about how to do distance LEARNING?

I think you really just have to trust teachers to know their kids and figure out what's going to be most effective and useful for everyone. The first step is checking in to make sure they're out there and receiving communication. No learning can happen if 1/4 of your kids are AWOL.

This is triage. We need to make sure they are okay. Then we can try to do some learning.

Not all kids have internet at home. Those with outstanding bills cannot get free internet. Not everyone has devices as some people were greedy and took them who didn't need them.

Comcast should make exceptions for MCPS students whose families owe them money. I hope MCPS is negotiating this for them.

It doesn’t help if Comcast has never before serviced where you live because they won’t make new hookups. They are just offering the service.

PP said Comcast wasn't allowing the free/reduced rates for people who owed them money. I said Comcast should waive that rule now.

Apparently MCPS has hot spots now for people who can't get Comcast service??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

PP said Comcast wasn't allowing the free/reduced rates for people who owed them money. I said Comcast should waive that rule now.

Apparently MCPS has hot spots now for people who can't get Comcast service??

Lots of people should do lots of things, but that doesn't mean Comcast will do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would not work. It would be chaos. Think about email
Before threads. Kids as young as 8 know google classroom. It already has these capabilities with subgroups/assignments.

Plus kids are already doing this on their own.

Exactly. And teachers should tap into this. What good is it to do it on their own when we're talking about how to do distance LEARNING?

'

GOOGLE CLASSROOM
GOOGLE CLASSROOM
GOOGLE CLASSROOM
GOOGLE CLASSROOM

CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION
CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION
CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION
CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION

OP proposed something that MCPS is already doing.

at least that's a full sentence. I don't see that google classroom is the same as a listserv.

Google Classroom does everything the OP wants to do.

Then why is MCPS struggling to get this off the ground? It literally takes an hour to form an io group and get it going. It's much easier. That doesn't meant google classroom can't be used as well, but the listserve could be the "classroom" part where people communicate with each other, ask questions, clarify, etc.