maybe housing in dc isn't as expensive as everyone thinks

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Anonymous wrote:Are you aware of the large swaths of the city who live at or around the poverty line? Sounds like maybe you are not. If you’re making minimum wage, it is difficult to afford a place to live in the city. It is even more difficult to find a place to live that is large enough to accommodate a family in a safe part of town while making minimum wage.

It is also difficult in other parts of the country, and in rural areas there are certainly additional challenges such as transportation costs and stagnant employment markets. But it really sounds like you maybe are not well acquainted with the realities of urban poverty if you’re suggesting that maybe it’s not that expensive to live here.

Why are you having kids if you're in poverty and making minimum wage? There are plenty of roommate shares and studio apartments in DC that are affordable to low wage earners. Live there, and once your financial situation is more stable, then consider having kids.

Or maybe the city should be doing more to make it possible for people to have a family, which is a pretty basic human desire, even if they aren't rich?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you aware of the large swaths of the city who live at or around the poverty line? Sounds like maybe you are not. If you’re making minimum wage, it is difficult to afford a place to live in the city. It is even more difficult to find a place to live that is large enough to accommodate a family in a safe part of town while making minimum wage.

It is also difficult in other parts of the country, and in rural areas there are certainly additional challenges such as transportation costs and stagnant employment markets. But it really sounds like you maybe are not well acquainted with the realities of urban poverty if you’re suggesting that maybe it’s not that expensive to live here.

Why are you having kids if you're in poverty and making minimum wage? There are plenty of roommate shares and studio apartments in DC that are affordable to low wage earners. Live there, and once your financial situation is more stable, then consider having kids.

Or maybe the city should be doing more to make it possible for people to have a family, which is a pretty basic human desire, even if they aren't rich?

It is not the government's job to make things affordable for everyone. Supply and demand. There is limited supply and more demand. Prices go up. Simple as that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Half the city though is not livable because of high crime and terrible schools. It's easy to state things aren't expensive when you are looking across all values when half the properties included are in very high crime areas. No one wants to raise their family in an area where you have to risk life and death just to save on a mortgage.

Racist much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Half the city though is not livable because of high crime and terrible schools. It's easy to state things aren't expensive when you are looking across all values when half the properties included are in very high crime areas. No one wants to raise their family in an area where you have to risk life and death just to save on a mortgage.

Wow.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Half the city though is not livable because of high crime and terrible schools. It's easy to state things aren't expensive when you are looking across all values when half the properties included are in very high crime areas. No one wants to raise their family in an area where you have to risk life and death just to save on a mortgage.

Racist much?

I guess we know what the up-zoning crowd really thinks...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Half the city though is not livable because of high crime and terrible schools. It's easy to state things aren't expensive when you are looking across all values when half the properties included are in very high crime areas. No one wants to raise their family in an area where you have to risk life and death just to save on a mortgage.

Racist much?

Worthless without telling us where YOU live and your HHI.

It’s easy for the Bethesda and Upper Ward 3 crowd to call folks racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Makes sense. More and more millennials and companies are leaving NYC and DC and headed to smaller cities with vibrant downtowns. There are several articles about how many younger people are moving from Silicon Valley, NYC, DC, working remotely with their big city salaries, and buying a house in a smaller city. Happened to Denver and Austin the past decade and I think the trend will continue.

I can see Roanoke and Danville VA as the next big smaller cities in VA to expand soon.

Roanoke yes. There’s Virginia Tech and a decent tech sector full of recent Hokie Cultists hired at relatively low wages. I can easily see similar mini hubs being set up in Morgantown and other isolated university towns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Half the city though is not livable because of high crime and terrible schools. It's easy to state things aren't expensive when you are looking across all values when half the properties included are in very high crime areas. No one wants to raise their family in an area where you have to risk life and death just to save on a mortgage.

Racist much?

Worthless without telling us where YOU live and your HHI.

It’s easy for the Bethesda and Upper Ward 3 crowd to call folks racist.

Until DC fully gentrifies (aka get rid of the low income poc East of the anacostia), DC will never meet its full potential. There’s so many good houses and neighborhoods with potential. Time for Mayor Bowser to raise the property taxes on ward 7 and 8.

I can’t wait until that issue is resolved. I’d like to buy at least two homes there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Half the city though is not livable because of high crime and terrible schools. It's easy to state things aren't expensive when you are looking across all values when half the properties included are in very high crime areas. No one wants to raise their family in an area where you have to risk life and death just to save on a mortgage.

Racist much?

Worthless without telling us where YOU live and your HHI.

It’s easy for the Bethesda and Upper Ward 3 crowd to call folks racist.

Until DC fully gentrifies (aka get rid of the low income poc East of the anacostia), DC will never meet its full potential. There’s so many good houses and neighborhoods with potential. Time for Mayor Bowser to raise the property taxes on ward 7 and 8.

I can’t wait until that issue is resolved. I’d like to buy at least two homes there.

You want to wait until prices increase to buy? You’re not smart. And also racist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Half the city though is not livable because of high crime and terrible schools. It's easy to state things aren't expensive when you are looking across all values when half the properties included are in very high crime areas. No one wants to raise their family in an area where you have to risk life and death just to save on a mortgage.

Racist much?

Worthless without telling us where YOU live and your HHI.

It’s easy for the Bethesda and Upper Ward 3 crowd to call folks racist.

PP here. I live in one of those neighborhoods that cab drivers wouldn't go to 10 years ago because they thought it was too dangerous. It's a neighborhood that the entitled white guys who want to ban single-family homes now complain is "unaffordable." But they could have bought a house here too, and for less than the condos they want to build, if they weren't so afraid of black people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Half the city though is not livable because of high crime and terrible schools. It's easy to state things aren't expensive when you are looking across all values when half the properties included are in very high crime areas. No one wants to raise their family in an area where you have to risk life and death just to save on a mortgage.

Racist much?

Worthless without telling us where YOU live and your HHI.

It’s easy for the Bethesda and Upper Ward 3 crowd to call folks racist.

Until DC fully gentrifies (aka get rid of the low income poc East of the anacostia), DC will never meet its full potential. There’s so many good houses and neighborhoods with potential. Time for Mayor Bowser to raise the property taxes on ward 7 and 8.

I can’t wait until that issue is resolved. I’d like to buy at least two homes there.

You want to wait until prices increase to buy? You’re not smart. And also racist.

All of DC will be gentrified, eventually. It's inevitable. There's too much money here. DC will become like Manhattan, where there aren't any bad parts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Half the city though is not livable because of high crime and terrible schools. It's easy to state things aren't expensive when you are looking across all values when half the properties included are in very high crime areas. No one wants to raise their family in an area where you have to risk life and death just to save on a mortgage.

Racist much?

Worthless without telling us where YOU live and your HHI.

It’s easy for the Bethesda and Upper Ward 3 crowd to call folks racist.

Until DC fully gentrifies (aka get rid of the low income poc East of the anacostia), DC will never meet its full potential. There’s so many good houses and neighborhoods with potential. Time for Mayor Bowser to raise the property taxes on ward 7 and 8.

I can’t wait until that issue is resolved. I’d like to buy at least two homes there.

You want to wait until prices increase to buy? You’re not smart. And also racist.

We’re not racist. The policies that the housing market is run by is racist. POC neighborhoods don’t appreciate in value like white neighborhoods do. Even decently maintained black neighborhoods don’t. Just look at PG County for example. Don’t blame the buyers, blame the industry for sticking with outdated guidelines like redlining.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Half the city though is not livable because of high crime and terrible schools. It's easy to state things aren't expensive when you are looking across all values when half the properties included are in very high crime areas. No one wants to raise their family in an area where you have to risk life and death just to save on a mortgage.

Racist much?

Worthless without telling us where YOU live and your HHI.

It’s easy for the Bethesda and Upper Ward 3 crowd to call folks racist.

Until DC fully gentrifies (aka get rid of the low income poc East of the anacostia), DC will never meet its full potential. There’s so many good houses and neighborhoods with potential. Time for Mayor Bowser to raise the property taxes on ward 7 and 8.

I can’t wait until that issue is resolved. I’d like to buy at least two homes there.

You want to wait until prices increase to buy? You’re not smart. And also racist.

We’re not racist. The policies that the housing market is run by is racist. POC neighborhoods don’t appreciate in value like white neighborhoods do. Even decently maintained black neighborhoods don’t. Just look at PG County for example. Don’t blame the buyers, blame the industry for sticking with outdated guidelines like redlining.

This is utter nonsense.

If you bought a house 15 years ago in Brookland or Petworth or Eckington or along H Street or any number of other historically black neighborhoods, the value of your home would have grown several times as fast as if you had bought in Tenleytown.

PG County prices are low because white people (like those pushing to change zoning laws) are afraid of being in predominantly black neighborhoods and won't move there (that is, until someone else gentrifies it for them -- by which time they'll then complain PG county is too expensive).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Half the city though is not livable because of high crime and terrible schools. It's easy to state things aren't expensive when you are looking across all values when half the properties included are in very high crime areas. No one wants to raise their family in an area where you have to risk life and death just to save on a mortgage.

Racist much?

Worthless without telling us where YOU live and your HHI.

It’s easy for the Bethesda and Upper Ward 3 crowd to call folks racist.

Until DC fully gentrifies (aka get rid of the low income poc East of the anacostia), DC will never meet its full potential. There’s so many good houses and neighborhoods with potential. Time for Mayor Bowser to raise the property taxes on ward 7 and 8.

I can’t wait until that issue is resolved. I’d like to buy at least two homes there.

You want to wait until prices increase to buy? You’re not smart. And also racist.

We’re not racist. The policies that the housing market is run by is racist. POC neighborhoods don’t appreciate in value like white neighborhoods do. Even decently maintained black neighborhoods don’t. Just look at PG County for example. Don’t blame the buyers, blame the industry for sticking with outdated guidelines like redlining.

This is utter nonsense.

If you bought a house 15 years ago in Brookland or Petworth or Eckington or along H Street or any number of other historically black neighborhoods, the value of your home would have grown several times as fast as if you had bought in Tenleytown.

PG County prices are low because white people (like those pushing to change zoning laws) are afraid of being in predominantly black neighborhoods and won't move there (that is, until someone else gentrifies it for them -- by which time they'll then complain PG county is too expensive).

No offense but you just kinda proved PP’s point. It boils down to racism.

If PG were white and had schools rated 8 or higher, it would be insanely priced.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Half the city though is not livable because of high crime and terrible schools. It's easy to state things aren't expensive when you are looking across all values when half the properties included are in very high crime areas. No one wants to raise their family in an area where you have to risk life and death just to save on a mortgage.

Racist much?

Worthless without telling us where YOU live and your HHI.

It’s easy for the Bethesda and Upper Ward 3 crowd to call folks racist.

Until DC fully gentrifies (aka get rid of the low income poc East of the anacostia), DC will never meet its full potential. There’s so many good houses and neighborhoods with potential. Time for Mayor Bowser to raise the property taxes on ward 7 and 8.

I can’t wait until that issue is resolved. I’d like to buy at least two homes there.

You want to wait until prices increase to buy? You’re not smart. And also racist.

We’re not racist. The policies that the housing market is run by is racist. POC neighborhoods don’t appreciate in value like white neighborhoods do. Even decently maintained black neighborhoods don’t. Just look at PG County for example. Don’t blame the buyers, blame the industry for sticking with outdated guidelines like redlining.

This is utter nonsense.

If you bought a house 15 years ago in Brookland or Petworth or Eckington or along H Street or any number of other historically black neighborhoods, the value of your home would have grown several times as fast as if you had bought in Tenleytown.

PG County prices are low because white people (like those pushing to change zoning laws) are afraid of being in predominantly black neighborhoods and won't move there (that is, until someone else gentrifies it for them -- by which time they'll then complain PG county is too expensive).

I bought in Petworth more than a decade ago, lived there for nine years, sold my house and bought in Ward 3, and now that I'm here, I, also, think home prices in Tenleytown are too expensive and the city should do something to make it way easier for people with less money than I have to move here. No one is pushing to change zoning in places like Petworth, which is already zoned for more density than Tenleytown is; your apparent belief that self-interest by single young white men is the only reason anyone wants to upzone Tenleytown is wrong. Why would a single person in their 20s want to live in Tenleytown? The idea is to make it more affordable for families.