Church of England affirms sex is for straights only

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Anonymous wrote:It is sad. However, the Episcopal church in the US - which is also part of the Anglican Communion - does not have that policy. It allows marriage rites for gay weddings.

It also allows gay priests, like ours.

Nope, the Episcopal Church of the USA was ousted from communion with the Anglican community. "January 14, 2016 - The Episcopal Church is suspended from participating in Anglican Communion activities for three years in response to the church's acceptance of same-sex marriage. The decision is made during a meeting of leaders from the Anglican Communion's independent churches." Only Anglican churches in the USA (and worldwide) are in communion with England.

??? We’re talking about the Episcopal Church of the USA and how it does allow gay priests. The response of the Anglican community is sad, but it has no practical bearing on what Episcopal churches in this country are actually doing.

Aren’t there Episcopal churches in the US that split off and are still within the Anglican community? I seem to remember the Falls Church is one of them.

There are. But they call themselves Anglican, not Episcopal. My memory from long ago (so anybody feel free to correct me) is that the Episcopal Church of the USA changed its name some time after the Revolutionary War because the US itself was no longer part of Britain. “Episcopal” refers to having bishops, unlike some other churches.

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Anonymous wrote:So find another church or religious practice that is more in line with your 18th Century beliefs.

ftfy

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Anonymous wrote:It is sad. However, the Episcopal church in the US - which is also part of the Anglican Communion - does not have that policy. It allows marriage rites for gay weddings.

It also allows gay priests, like ours.

Nope, the Episcopal Church of the USA was ousted from communion with the Anglican community. "January 14, 2016 - The Episcopal Church is suspended from participating in Anglican Communion activities for three years in response to the church's acceptance of same-sex marriage. The decision is made during a meeting of leaders from the Anglican Communion's independent churches." Only Anglican churches in the USA (and worldwide) are in communion with England.

??? We’re talking about the Episcopal Church of the USA and how it does allow gay priests. The response of the Anglican community is sad, but it has no practical bearing on what Episcopal churches in this country are actually doing.

Aren’t there Episcopal churches in the US that split off and are still within the Anglican community? I seem to remember the Falls Church is one of them.

There are. But they call themselves Anglican, not Episcopal. My memory from long ago (so anybody feel free to correct me) is that the Episcopal Church of the USA changed its name some time after the Revolutionary War because the US itself was no longer part of Britain. “Episcopal” refers to having bishops, unlike some other churches. [/quote. Yes a number of them split off and are thriving. They are the churches In communion with England. The remaining EpiscopAl churches are dying and are not in communion with England

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Anonymous wrote:It is sad. However, the Episcopal church in the US - which is also part of the Anglican Communion - does not have that policy. It allows marriage rites for gay weddings.

It also allows gay priests, like ours.

Nope, the Episcopal Church of the USA was ousted from communion with the Anglican community. "January 14, 2016 - The Episcopal Church is suspended from participating in Anglican Communion activities for three years in response to the church's acceptance of same-sex marriage. The decision is made during a meeting of leaders from the Anglican Communion's independent churches." Only Anglican churches in the USA (and worldwide) are in communion with England.

??? We’re talking about the Episcopal Church of the USA and how it does allow gay priests. The response of the Anglican community is sad, but it has no practical bearing on what Episcopal churches in this country are actually doing.

Aren’t there Episcopal churches in the US that split off and are still within the Anglican community? I seem to remember the Falls Church is one of them.

There are. But they call themselves Anglican, not Episcopal. My memory from long ago (so anybody feel free to correct me) is that the Episcopal Church of the USA changed its name some time after the Revolutionary War because the US itself was no longer part of Britain. “Episcopal” refers to having bishops, unlike some other churches. [/quote. Yes a number of them split off and are thriving. They are the churches In communion with England. The remaining EpiscopAl churches are dying and are not in communion with England

They aren’t dying. We’ve been through this before, if you’re the Anglican who is so incensed that the judge wouldn’t let you keep the church building when you broke away. Like most religions (mainline Protestant, Judaism) here has been a decline because of increasing secularization. I don’t have enough interest to dig out that old thread, but as I recall, you used an old and unrepresentative time frame to make this claim, and you didn’t adjust any decline for you Anglicans breaking away.

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I’m so grateful for our Episcopal Church. There is nothing Christ-like about exclusionary clubs pretending to be churches. From our website-

“We hope tradition, race, gender identity, nationality, and sexual orientation are not barriers here. We try to see our differences as signs of God’s diverse and wonderful creation.”

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Churches are not required to be politically correct.

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Anonymous wrote:Churches are not required to be politically correct.

Yet many are, because Jesus was a revolutionary.

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After how the Church of England was founded with the whole Henry the VIII scandals, they really have no business taking a stand on what marriage must be. They exist solely because a former King didn't like the marriage rules of the Catholic Church. It would be awesome of when Prince Chalres becomes King he divorce Camilla, announces that he is gay and replaces the Church of England with the Church of the UK which would allow same sex marriage. This would be an excellent lesson for the clergy to remember to study history.

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Anonymous wrote:After how the Church of England was founded with the whole Henry the VIII scandals, they really have no business taking a stand on what marriage must be. They exist solely because a former King didn't like the marriage rules of the Catholic Church. It would be awesome of when Prince Chalres becomes King he divorce Camilla, announces that he is gay and replaces the Church of England with the Church of the UK which would allow same sex marriage. This would be an excellent lesson for the clergy to remember to study history.

Are you saying Henry VIII was wrong to want to be able to divorce? Are you divorced, or do you know anybody who is?

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Anonymous wrote:Churches are not required to be politically correct.

Yet many are, because Jesus was a revolutionary.

Of course he was revolutionary when he proclaimed the marriage between man and woman after Sodom and Gomorra. That was a revolutionary idea.

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Well technically that is true for physical intercourse and mating on a fundamental level.

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Anonymous wrote:After how the Church of England was founded with the whole Henry the VIII scandals, they really have no business taking a stand on what marriage must be. They exist solely because a former King didn't like the marriage rules of the Catholic Church. It would be awesome of when Prince Chalres becomes King he divorce Camilla, announces that he is gay and replaces the Church of England with the Church of the UK which would allow same sex marriage. This would be an excellent lesson for the clergy to remember to study history.

Are you saying Henry VIII was wrong to want to be able to divorce? Are you divorced, or do you know anybody who is?

I think the divorce part was all right, but the beheadings of wives and burnings of nunneries were not. The Catholic church was OK with the beheadings, but didn't approve of the divorces or burnings.

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Anonymous wrote:Churches are not required to be politically correct.

Yet many are, because Jesus was a revolutionary.

Of course he was revolutionary when he proclaimed the marriage between man and woman after Sodom and Gomorra. That was a revolutionary idea.

Way before Jesus's time

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so grateful for our Episcopal Church. There is nothing Christ-like about exclusionary clubs pretending to be churches. From our website-

“We hope tradition, race, gender identity, nationality, and sexual orientation are not barriers here. We try to see our differences as signs of God’s diverse and wonderful creation.”

I'd strikethrough that and replace with "advanced human thinking." Obviously "God" thinks differently depending on what church he's in.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so grateful for our Episcopal Church. There is nothing Christ-like about exclusionary clubs pretending to be churches. From our website-

“We hope tradition, race, gender identity, nationality, and sexual orientation are not barriers here. We try to see our differences as signs of God’s diverse and wonderful creation.”

I'd strikethrough that and replace with "advanced human thinking." Obviously "God" thinks differently depending on what church he's in.

Obviously you’re not great with people who believe differently than you regarding spiritual matters.