Are you for real with this post? |
now you're just speaking out of your ass It's a well known fact that US schools choose domestic students first THEN international students for the money |
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Between the birth rate decline starting in 08 and the continuing rise in tuition and fees (I am expecting it to be over 80k a year by then), it'll be easier for people who can afford to pay full freight.
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Probably not for the tippy top pier - HYSP and so on but I would think so starting around schools ranked 20th and below.
Especially because of the cost. Not many people can afford to pay 100k without blinking. We make around 800k and even I question whether it's worth it. We'll pay though. |
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Even now, if you get below the "top 30-40" admissions just isnt that hard. This Pew study is interesting. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/04/09/a-majority-of-u-s-colleges-admit-most-students-who-apply/ "...Of the 1,364 four-year colleges and universities we looked at, 17 admitted fewer than 10% of applicants in 2017, the most recent year for which comprehensive data are available. That group includes such prestigious names as Stanford (4.7%), Harvard (5.2%), Yale (6.9%) and Northwestern (9.2%). Another 29 schools admitted between 10% and 20% of applicants, including Georgetown (15.7%), the University of Southern California (16%), UCLA (16.1%) and the University of California, Berkeley (17.1%). The extremely competitive schools amounted to 3.4% of all the colleges and universities in this analysis, and they accounted for just 4.1% of total student enrollment. By contrast, more than half of the schools in our sample (53.3%) admitted two-thirds or more of their applicants in 2017 ..." |
Of course. What part do you find "un real?" |
Maybe my kids will get in to UVA. Woohoo! |
Percentage admitted doesn't tell you as much as you think about difficulty of admissions. Schools can admit 30% of applicants and still have average scores that are in the top 5% of standardized test scores and students from the top 10% of their high schools. There's a lot of self-selection in who applies and readily available info in the common data set/Naviance about who will get in. So two schools can have the same percent accepted but accept a widely different caliber of student. |
- The part where you think your kids will go to "mediocre schools" - The part where you think your siblings kids will "just skate their way into HPYS" - The part where you don't want what's best for your nieces and nephews You are either a fake post/troll or you are a real piece or work. |
Who are "Intwrnwtional students"? |
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| Trend in international students is also going down. Universities outside of the US are getting stronger (Europe and Asia) and are cheaper. China demographics are such that fewer and fewer college age kids exist each year. India is not getting their act together. So, I highly doubt there will be as many international students in our schools in eight years unless the schools lower standards or prices to attract more |
| I've heard this too, and it would be nice (I have a 4th grader and a 1st grader) but I'm not going to count on it. You'll probably still have to be stellar to get into top schools, but maybe it won't give parents the shock it does now when they see that schools that were safeties back when they applied are now really competitive. Dialing back the insane competition a couple notches would be great. |
This is what many are predicting. |