Why do people deny DC speedcams rocket for 1mph over?

[Anonymous]

No one riding a bike has ever gotten a speed camera ticket.

FACT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just drive 20 mph no matter where I am in the city, unless it’s a school zone, where I drive under 15 mph

I figure I’ve paid about a thousand dollars in photo radar tickets in the last three years, and that’s enough for me. No more. From now on I only drive under 25 in DC.

Don’t like it? Tired of being stuck behind me? Too bad. But if you’re behind me, you at least won’t be getting any tickets.

That's a good thing for everybody.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it's true you only get a ticket for going at least 9 over

The District’s speed camera program, which began in 2007, has collected $764,512,631 in revenue through March 31 of this year. That is crazy

Know what's crazier? They lease these cameras. The District didn't get 100% of that revenue.

http://www.wmal.com/2017/04/25/savior-speed-cameras-rake-in-cash-for-private-companies/

That's for Maryland. I couldn't find anything on DC immediately. Regardless, these programs are very profitable for private companies. No potential conflict of interest there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Constantly see people denying it but even WTOP radio this morning discusses t ha t they ticket for 1mph over .

What's the problem?

If you don't want to get a ticket from a speed camera, then drive below the speed limit. The speed limit is the maximum speed you're legally allowed to drive under ideal conditions.

Because that's probably within an error window.

[Anonymous]

I don’t believe you OP. I’ve only ever seen or heard of cameras that ticket at 11mph+ over

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe you OP. I’ve only ever seen or heard of cameras that ticket at 11mph+ over

that’s in montgomery county I said DC. Or did WTOP lie?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe you OP. I’ve only ever seen or heard of cameras that ticket at 11mph+ over

that’s in montgomery county I said DC. Or did WTOP lie?

I’m talking about DC. Source from WTOP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe you OP. I’ve only ever seen or heard of cameras that ticket at 11mph+ over

Agreed - this would be an unannounced policy shift if true.

OP - can you post some clarifying details about this speeding ticket you allegedly got for going 1 MPH over the speed limit?

[Anonymous]

On Ke ilworth, they change the speed up and down and made a speed trap there. They rake in the money and it is not about safety.

I will drive less in dc and spend less there, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just drive 20 mph no matter where I am in the city, unless it’s a school zone, where I drive under 15 mph

I figure I’ve paid about a thousand dollars in photo radar tickets in the last three years, and that’s enough for me. No more. From now on I only drive under 25 in DC.

Don’t like it? Tired of being stuck behind me? Too bad. But if you’re behind me, you at least won’t be getting any tickets.

Yep. I go mega slow with people riding my bumper. Stressful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe you OP. I’ve only ever seen or heard of cameras that ticket at 11mph+ over

Agreed - this would be an unannounced policy shift if true.

OP - can you post some clarifying details about this speeding ticket you allegedly got for going 1 MPH over the speed limit?

I am not op but google 600 block of Kenilworth. Lots of tickets and some for a few miles over.

It is all about $$$$$.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it's true you only get a ticket for going at least 9 over

The District’s speed camera program, which began in 2007, has collected $764,512,631 in revenue through March 31 of this year. That is crazy

That is great.

Slow down or pay.

Seems fair to me.

Seems dumb. Speed limits are supossed to be for saving lives and preventing injuries or damage, not a revenue source. Clearly, with this much revenue coming in people are not slowing down, so it is ineffective. Anyone have a map with stats for volume of tickets issued and avg. speed over the limit? This might be telling of the political drivers of this phenomenon.

Anyhow a better approach would be this: eliminate speed limits in favor of speed targets. Drivers must sustain speeds within plus 5 to 7 mph of the speed target. If not sustained around target you get a ticket and your license is suspended for one week. For second offense one month, third offense three months and so on. If you drive without a license you go to jail. No fines. Instead loss of the privilege to drive. Also, on the driving too slow side this is called reckless driving. If you are in normal flow of traffic and not signaling to pull over / stop / turn off the road and are driving more than 10 mph under the speed target, then you’re being reckless and the same progression of penalties would apply as speeding. I.e you’re demonstrating either way that you’re not fit to drive. This same approach can be used for texting, drinking, drugs, etc. while driving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What cameras in DC are they? I’ve certainly driven more than 1mph over and have never gotten one in 5 years living here. I always assumed they were set to 11 over so I make sure to never go more than 10 over, if I even go over.

Same here. One speed camera ticket in DC in 10+ years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it's true you only get a ticket for going at least 9 over

The District’s speed camera program, which began in 2007, has collected $764,512,631 in revenue through March 31 of this year. That is crazy

That is great.

Slow down or pay.

Seems fair to me.

Seems dumb. Speed limits are supossed to be for saving lives and preventing injuries or damage, not a revenue source. Clearly, with this much revenue coming in people are not slowing down, so it is ineffective. Anyone have a map with stats for volume of tickets issued and avg. speed over the limit? This might be telling of the political drivers of this phenomenon.

Anyhow a better approach would be this: eliminate speed limits in favor of speed targets. Drivers must sustain speeds within plus 5 to 7 mph of the speed target. If not sustained around target you get a ticket and your license is suspended for one week. For second offense one month, third offense three months and so on. If you drive without a license you go to jail. No fines. Instead loss of the privilege to drive. Also, on the driving too slow side this is called reckless driving. If you are in normal flow of traffic and not signaling to pull over / stop / turn off the road and are driving more than 10 mph under the speed target, then you’re being reckless and the same progression of penalties would apply as speeding. I.e you’re demonstrating either way that you’re not fit to drive. This same approach can be used for texting, drinking, drugs, etc. while driving.

They would stop being a revenue source if drivers would obey the law.

I can't believe that somebody is arguing in favor of eliminating speed limits. The goal for roads is not maintaining the flow of motor-vehicle traffic. The goal for roads is everybody (including people who aren't in cars) arriving safely. That should go without saying, but evidently it doesn't, unfortunately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe you OP. I’ve only ever seen or heard of cameras that ticket at 11mph+ over

that’s in montgomery county I said DC. Or did WTOP lie?

Post the link to WTOP or just admit to being a troll.