So much for the nonsense that only certain "desperate" universities do spam marketing

[Anonymous]

There are something like 37,000 high schools in the US, most deeply segregated by both income and ethnicity and many grossly underresourced. Fewer than 1,000 will send a student to Harvard. If you're looking for students who will thrive at an Ivy environment, why shouldn't you encourage all those valedictorians who did the best they could do in the communities they are from to consider themselves Ivy material, regardless of test scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are something like 37,000 high schools in the US, most deeply segregated by both income and ethnicity and many grossly underresourced. Fewer than 1,000 will send a student to Harvard. If you're looking for students who will thrive at an Ivy environment, why shouldn't you encourage all those valedictorians who did the best they could do in the communities they are from to consider themselves Ivy material, regardless of test scores.

Because they aren't going to be admitted, no matter what they write on the application. They are just wasting time and money applying. Many of these kids can't afford to apply to 10 or 15 schools and encouraging them to apply where they have zero chance of admittance is both wasteful and unkind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Because they aren't going to be admitted, no matter what they write on the application. They are just wasting time and money applying. Many of these kids can't afford to apply to 10 or 15 schools and encouraging them to apply where they have zero chance of admittance is both wasteful and unkind.

While you might be right in retrospect and in practice:

1. You don't know they won't be admitted
2. If they can't afford to apply they can ask for a fee waiver and will get one
3. "Don't even bother" is much more unkind.

So many things to get mad about in this world. "G-D Harvard sent me a letter! Those bastards!" is not anywhere near one of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are something like 37,000 high schools in the US, most deeply segregated by both income and ethnicity and many grossly underresourced. Fewer than 1,000 will send a student to Harvard. If you're looking for students who will thrive at an Ivy environment, why shouldn't you encourage all those valedictorians who did the best they could do in the communities they are from to consider themselves Ivy material, regardless of test scores.

Because they aren't going to be admitted, no matter what they write on the application. They are just wasting time and money applying. Many of these kids can't afford to apply to 10 or 15 schools and encouraging them to apply where they have zero chance of admittance is both wasteful and unkind.

That’s not an accurate statement. Maybe an extremely high percentage won’t be but some may. And for those students who may not otherwise have applied and end up being admitted, this can be a big deal. That’s the whole point of the exercise.

I find it humorous that posters both slam Harvard for admitting URMs and slam Harvard for trying to get URMs to apply. It seems that the ideal situation is one where none of them apply or are admitted. More space for whites I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are something like 37,000 high schools in the US, most deeply segregated by both income and ethnicity and many grossly underresourced. Fewer than 1,000 will send a student to Harvard. If you're looking for students who will thrive at an Ivy environment, why shouldn't you encourage all those valedictorians who did the best they could do in the communities they are from to consider themselves Ivy material, regardless of test scores.

Because they aren't going to be admitted, no matter what they write on the application. They are just wasting time and money applying. Many of these kids can't afford to apply to 10 or 15 schools and encouraging them to apply where they have zero chance of admittance is both wasteful and unkind.

That’s not an accurate statement. Maybe an extremely high percentage won’t be but some may. And for those students who may not otherwise have applied and end up being admitted, this can be a big deal. That’s the whole point of the exercise.

I find it humorous that posters both slam Harvard for admitting URMs and slam Harvard for trying to get URMs to apply. It seems that the ideal situation is one where none of them apply or are admitted. More space for whites I guess.

It isn't just URM who get the adverts, my white kid from a high FARMS school got them too. He knew not to waste his time or money, we don't have a lot of either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD, with 1400 SATs is regularly getting recruiting emails from Chicago. On the other end, Hofstra keeps sending her stuff.

Hofstra is a good school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD, with 1400 SATs is regularly getting recruiting emails from Chicago. On the other end, Hofstra keeps sending her stuff.

My 1300 SAT DD has gotten 15+ pieces of junk mail from Chicago.

I feel fir the studywho go there and see how their schools wastes their tuition as well as cuts down thousands of trees.


#turnoff

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD, with 1400 SATs is regularly getting recruiting emails from Chicago. On the other end, Hofstra keeps sending her stuff.

Hofstra is a good school

It's pretty average and full of Long Islanders who go home a lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are something like 37,000 high schools in the US, most deeply segregated by both income and ethnicity and many grossly underresourced. Fewer than 1,000 will send a student to Harvard. If you're looking for students who will thrive at an Ivy environment, why shouldn't you encourage all those valedictorians who did the best they could do in the communities they are from to consider themselves Ivy material, regardless of test scores.

That's not how the liberal elite who run our top universities operate in real life.