Disciplining child in front of guests

Anonymous
OP, I think you did things just right. I'd also add, though, that while you feel like the fancy party is a nice thing and a treat for your kid, the kid may not feel the same way. Your instinct to manage behavior during a dinner with guests the same way you would at other times is absolutely correct. But your expectation that your kid be better behaved than normal, or excited about a fancy dinner, might need an adjustment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My 6 year old was being quite rude in front of guests today. Whining that he did not like food, picking it out and putting on table, that sort of thing. I think it was control related. I was very frustrated after having cleaned house from top to bottom, cooking while responding to work emergencies all day. I asked him to come into the other room and talk to me but he refused so I picked him up and we had a “chat” in the other room where I told him basically, you can ask nicely for a side plate to put things on but you cannot fuss, whine, ruin others’ meal.

I guess I am just frustrated that I was that upset about it. Usually I can let things go when guests are here. I felt so annoyed, like we gave child a nice gift and he was rude instead of being grateful. I guess this scenario pushed some buttons. If I had been in a better mood I would have figured out another, nicer way to deal with it. I am at the end of my rope and I think guests noticed that.


Exactly what I would have done.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Just an FYI: you ignored your son all day cleaning and cooking and dealing with work emergencies. You then said you felt like you gave your son a nice gift and he wasn’t grateful. He was whining because he wanted your attention.. you may have been home all day with him, but you didn’t focus on him, play with him ....

Little boys don’t want fancy parties. That’s not something to be grateful for in their eyes.

The way you handled it was fine. When he whines when you took him out of the room, I’d have sent him to his room and told him to come back as soon as he was ready to behave properly. But talking to him away from the guests was a good call. You didn’t humiliate your son and didn’t make your guests uncomfortable.


He wasn’t home all day. He went to a gymnastics camp he loves. Also, he generally loves holidays and fancy dinners and begs us to do them more often. But I get your point.
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Anonymous wrote:I thought I was going to read about some parent humiliating their kid in front of others. Instead I read about a parent responding to their kid in a consistent, respectful and very appropriate manner. You don’t need DCUM to affirm this. You got it!


Your comment made me realize that my self-doubt comes from having had abusive parents. My father beat us and hit us with open hand/fist (also hit mom), mom was verbally and emotionally abusive. Logically I know that I didn’t abuse my child but I think when I am angry-frustrated I am worried that I am crossing the line.

For instance, child would not stop whining and crying during “chat” so I also said that if they didn’t stop they would be eating in their room so as not to ruin things for guests. Then later father and I followed up to make sure expectations were clear. I said we would not have nice holiday meals if that behavior continues. Both statements upset child, which I understand in retrospect if they were having a control reaction maybe turning it into power struggle wasn’t th right thing.

I guess I have no baseline for normal parenting. For what is a normal parenting mistake. I go through times when I really doubt myself as a parent. Thanks for letting me vent.



xox OP. I actually think your sensitivity to your own anger is a good and healthy thing. In my experience as well, child misbehavior in front of guests IS more triggering and makes me more angry -- so clearly you felt that, and the feeling of anger disturbed you.

I strongly , strongly recommend parenting therapy!!! I didn't have the abusive background you did, but other stuff that interfered with being an effective parent. And one HUGE thing is learning to deal with anger. I kind of oscillated between trying to ignore/deny that my child's behavior bothered me, and then over-reacting in anger, and then feeling guilty. That's what you did by threatening no holiday meals. That was an inappropriate consequence (too harsh) and probably more importantly, a consequence that you will never actually carry out!

The way to circumvent that cycle is to set consistent discipline that you are confident is correct and appropriate. That way, you feel like these are objective standards you are upholding, and not situations you are reacting to. You take your emotions out of it, more or less. In this sense, the common internet advice to "stay unruffled" (gag) is dead wrong. Trying to force yourself to feel a certain way and not react emotionally, just creates the cycle of supression - overreaction.

As for the exact situation -- while people will tell you to have zero tolerance for child misbehavior in restaurants, big meals, etc, that sets up a power struggle (as you saw) especially when you are triggered by normal child behavior. I can remember being amazed when I went out for a nice brunch with my old moms group, and one mom brought two young daughters (6 and 4) because she couldn't get a sitter. No, I wasn't amazed because her children were perfect. I was amazed because she ignored their very mild acting up (being wiggly, a bit loud) and then, after they adjusted to the setting, they were just fine! If it had been me, I totally would have over-reacted at the first sign of wiggling, because I was trying to prove something to my "mom friends." But by just ignoring it, her kids were fine. I'm not saying this works all the time (obv disruptive behavior can'e be tolerated) but truly, it looked like magic to me.


Thank you, totally agree (OP here). This is our first so we’re always in uncharted territory as to what is developmentally appropriate. With toddlers I am super patient because obviously they have no clue, but with a schoolage child who you’ve discussed expectations with ten thousand times, my patience wears thin. I’m not super strict but around respecting other people’s feelings I do place emphasis on things such as empathy, respect, etc. I realize they aren’t at the age where they fully get it but I notice from the behavior that there is some capacity to understand and respond.
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