AP is pregnant and is going home, what rights does father have?

[Anonymous]

Meh. He’ll be done with daddyhood after the next hottie comes along. Smart girl getting out of here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I worked in an Eastern European country for a long time and had an Embassy acquaintance who had many talks with women coming in to insist that their locally-born baby had been fathered by a visiting American (the alleged American father was never present). The Embassy would not get involved in this, and the baby was not registered as a US citizen. It doesn't work that way and there are too many people trying to game the system.

The baby will ONLY get citizenship if: the couple are married and living abroad, or the baby is born in the US, or the father is present in the country when the baby is born (and has proof of paternity).

Also, the father will have no rights at all if she gives birth overseas. No court is going to enforce visitation in another country.

You are not as informed on the citizenship question as you think you are.

[Anonymous]

What citizenship?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I worked in an Eastern European country for a long time and had an Embassy acquaintance who had many talks with women coming in to insist that their locally-born baby had been fathered by a visiting American (the alleged American father was never present). The Embassy would not get involved in this, and the baby was not registered as a US citizen. It doesn't work that way and there are too many people trying to game the system.

The baby will ONLY get citizenship if: the couple are married and living abroad, or the baby is born in the US, or the father is present in the country when the baby is born (and has proof of paternity).

Also, the father will have no rights at all if she gives birth overseas. No court is going to enforce visitation in another country.

This is not true regarding U.S. citizenship. The U.S. citizen father would need to submit an affidavit of paternity, proof that he meets the requirements to transmit citizenship (five years of physical presence in the U.S., including two years after the age of 14), and proof of the relationship (they would not need to be married and he would not have to be present in the country when the baby is born). If there is insufficient proof of the relationship, the father can do a DNA test at an approved clinic to prove paternity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AP has gotten pregnant while here and will be going home. She wants to come back and visit and the father wants to be involved. They are both 20 years old. What a nightmare. What rights does the father have out of the country? None, right? Child will have dual citizenship.

There’s a 90 Day Fiance about this more or less. Also the father has to apply for citizenship for the child. It’s not automatic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I worked in an Eastern European country for a long time and had an Embassy acquaintance who had many talks with women coming in to insist that their locally-born baby had been fathered by a visiting American (the alleged American father was never present). The Embassy would not get involved in this, and the baby was not registered as a US citizen. It doesn't work that way and there are too many people trying to game the system.

The baby will ONLY get citizenship if: the couple are married and living abroad, or the baby is born in the US, or the father is present in the country when the baby is born (and has proof of paternity).

Also, the father will have no rights at all if she gives birth overseas. No court is going to enforce visitation in another country.

This is not true regarding U.S. citizenship. The U.S. citizen father would need to submit an affidavit of paternity, proof that he meets the requirements to transmit citizenship (five years of physical presence in the U.S., including two years after the age of 14), and proof of the relationship (they would not need to be married and he would not have to be present in the country when the baby is born). If there is insufficient proof of the relationship, the father can do a DNA test at an approved clinic to prove paternity.

Thanks you, Consular Officer!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I worked in an Eastern European country for a long time and had an Embassy acquaintance who had many talks with women coming in to insist that their locally-born baby had been fathered by a visiting American (the alleged American father was never present). The Embassy would not get involved in this, and the baby was not registered as a US citizen. It doesn't work that way and there are too many people trying to game the system.

The baby will ONLY get citizenship if: the couple are married and living abroad, or the baby is born in the US, or the father is present in the country when the baby is born (and has proof of paternity).

Also, the father will have no rights at all if she gives birth overseas. No court is going to enforce visitation in another country.

This is not true regarding U.S. citizenship. The U.S. citizen father would need to submit an affidavit of paternity, proof that he meets the requirements to transmit citizenship (five years of physical presence in the U.S., including two years after the age of 14), and proof of the relationship (they would not need to be married and he would not have to be present in the country when the baby is born). If there is insufficient proof of the relationship, the father can do a DNA test at an approved clinic to prove paternity.

Thanks you, Consular Officer!

You're welcome. I hate leaving incorrect information hanging out there...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The father’s right will depend heavily on the laws of that country, so no one here can tell you much on that.

What is your relationship to this whole scenario?

The host parent of the au pair ( not OP but im paying attention)

Then why is OP so invested in the father’s rights here?

Because the father is her child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The father’s right will depend heavily on the laws of that country, so no one here can tell you much on that.

What is your relationship to this whole scenario?

The host parent of the au pair ( not OP but im paying attention)

Then why is OP so invested in the father’s rights here?

Because the father is her child.

Are you the OP? Or are you just guessing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The father’s right will depend heavily on the laws of that country, so no one here can tell you much on that.

What is your relationship to this whole scenario?

The host parent of the au pair ( not OP but im paying attention)

Then why is OP so invested in the father’s rights here?

Because the father is her child.

Are you the OP? Or are you just guessing?

I also wondered about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t they getting married?

Maybe because they are too young? Maybe because they don't want to be married to each other for the rest of their lives? Maybe they don't know each other very well?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I worked in an Eastern European country for a long time and had an Embassy acquaintance who had many talks with women coming in to insist that their locally-born baby had been fathered by a visiting American (the alleged American father was never present). The Embassy would not get involved in this, and the baby was not registered as a US citizen. It doesn't work that way and there are too many people trying to game the system.

The baby will ONLY get citizenship if: the couple are married and living abroad, or the baby is born in the US, or the father is present in the country when the baby is born (and has proof of paternity).

Also, the father will have no rights at all if she gives birth overseas. No court is going to enforce visitation in another country.

There is a third scenario too. The father does not have to be present for the birth. He does have to establish paternity, however, and apply for a family reunification visa/path to citizenship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t they getting married?

Maybe because they are too young? Maybe because they don't want to be married to each other for the rest of their lives? Maybe they don't know each other very well?

Good God if we're going back to pregnancy = get married...

[Anonymous]

Perhaps the father can move to her country

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t they getting married?

Maybe because they are too young? Maybe because they don't want to be married to each other for the rest of their lives? Maybe they don't know each other very well?

Good God if we're going back to pregnancy = get married...

Unfortunately, when visas are involved it is by far the easiest way to keep both parents in the same country and to establish paternity.