New CCL and NCSL Alliance

[Anonymous]

A strategic alliance is not a merger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the new league will be CCLNCSL?

The new league will be the Extended CCL and NCSL — ECNL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the new league will be CCLNCSL?

The new league will be the Extended CCL and NCSL — ECNL

So ECCLNCSLECNL?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A strategic alliance is not a merger.

so what do you think it will mean then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A strategic alliance is not a merger.

so what do you think it will mean then?

Probably showcases or a revamped tournament where it’s teams from those 3 leagues combined

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A strategic alliance is not a merger.

so what do you think it will mean then?

Probably showcases or a revamped tournament where it’s teams from those 3 leagues combined

Ah, ok. So, not a whole lot. That's too bad in my opinion.

From my experience with both in the last few years, I think it would make sense to merge them. We can see from how well some of the recent NCSL-to-CCL teams are doing (for example, Alexandria, Herndon) that the top NCSL teams compete at the top of CCL 1. I admit I was surprised to see this after drinking the CCL kool aid.

Then we have CCL 2, which seems like such a waste of everybody's time--too much unevenness in the competition for it to be worth driving any kind of distance. NCSL seems to try to group younger teams teams roughly by ability while keeping kids pretty local until they get to promotion and relegation. One larger league seems like the way to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A strategic alliance is not a merger.

so what do you think it will mean then?

Probably showcases or a revamped tournament where it’s teams from those 3 leagues combined

Ah, ok. So, not a whole lot. That's too bad in my opinion.

From my experience with both in the last few years, I think it would make sense to merge them. We can see from how well some of the recent NCSL-to-CCL teams are doing (for example, Alexandria, Herndon) that the top NCSL teams compete at the top of CCL 1. I admit I was surprised to see this after drinking the CCL kool aid.

Then we have CCL 2, which seems like such a waste of everybody's time--too much unevenness in the competition for it to be worth driving any kind of distance. NCSL seems to try to group younger teams teams roughly by ability while keeping kids pretty local until they get to promotion and relegation. One larger league seems like the way to go.

Yep even with the CCL there is a big and consistent gap between clubs specially below u12. Above u12 it becomes a 2nd team league. Many times there are only one or two close games during the year. It’s just not productive for those involved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A strategic alliance is not a merger.

so what do you think it will mean then?

Probably showcases or a revamped tournament where it’s teams from those 3 leagues combined

Ah, ok. So, not a whole lot. That's too bad in my opinion.

From my experience with both in the last few years, I think it would make sense to merge them. We can see from how well some of the recent NCSL-to-CCL teams are doing (for example, Alexandria, Herndon) that the top NCSL teams compete at the top of CCL 1. I admit I was surprised to see this after drinking the CCL kool aid.

Then we have CCL 2, which seems like such a waste of everybody's time--too much unevenness in the competition for it to be worth driving any kind of distance. NCSL seems to try to group younger teams teams roughly by ability while keeping kids pretty local until they get to promotion and relegation. One larger league seems like the way to go.

Yep even with the CCL there is a big and consistent gap between clubs specially below u12. Above u12 it becomes a 2nd team league. Many times there are only one or two close games during the year. It’s just not productive for those involved.

So you are saying our CCL2 1.5 hour drive to win nearly 20-0 was a waste of time? My kid would agree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A strategic alliance is not a merger.

so what do you think it will mean then?

Probably showcases or a revamped tournament where it’s teams from those 3 leagues combined

Ah, ok. So, not a whole lot. That's too bad in my opinion.

From my experience with both in the last few years, I think it would make sense to merge them. We can see from how well some of the recent NCSL-to-CCL teams are doing (for example, Alexandria, Herndon) that the top NCSL teams compete at the top of CCL 1. I admit I was surprised to see this after drinking the CCL kool aid.

Then we have CCL 2, which seems like such a waste of everybody's time--too much unevenness in the competition for it to be worth driving any kind of distance. NCSL seems to try to group younger teams teams roughly by ability while keeping kids pretty local until they get to promotion and relegation. One larger league seems like the way to go.

Yep even with the CCL there is a big and consistent gap between clubs specially below u12. Above u12 it becomes a 2nd team league. Many times there are only one or two close games during the year. It’s just not productive for those involved.

At the older ages, with ECNL 2 on the horizon and DA, sorry CCL is no better than a 3rd team league. With EDP in the mix, CCL could be a 4th tier depending.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A strategic alliance is not a merger.

so what do you think it will mean then?

Probably showcases or a revamped tournament where it’s teams from those 3 leagues combined

Ah, ok. So, not a whole lot. That's too bad in my opinion.

From my experience with both in the last few years, I think it would make sense to merge them. We can see from how well some of the recent NCSL-to-CCL teams are doing (for example, Alexandria, Herndon) that the top NCSL teams compete at the top of CCL 1. I admit I was surprised to see this after drinking the CCL kool aid.

Then we have CCL 2, which seems like such a waste of everybody's time--too much unevenness in the competition for it to be worth driving any kind of distance. NCSL seems to try to group younger teams teams roughly by ability while keeping kids pretty local until they get to promotion and relegation. One larger league seems like the way to go.

Yep even with the CCL there is a big and consistent gap between clubs specially below u12. Above u12 it becomes a 2nd team league. Many times there are only one or two close games during the year. It’s just not productive for those involved.

So you are saying our CCL2 1.5 hour drive to win nearly 20-0 was a waste of time? My kid would agree.

The difference now is because of NCSL perhaps CCL will now be forced to start publishing their scores for all to see.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A strategic alliance is not a merger.

so what do you think it will mean then?

Probably showcases or a revamped tournament where it’s teams from those 3 leagues combined

Ah, ok. So, not a whole lot. That's too bad in my opinion.

From my experience with both in the last few years, I think it would make sense to merge them. We can see from how well some of the recent NCSL-to-CCL teams are doing (for example, Alexandria, Herndon) that the top NCSL teams compete at the top of CCL 1. I admit I was surprised to see this after drinking the CCL kool aid.

Then we have CCL 2, which seems like such a waste of everybody's time--too much unevenness in the competition for it to be worth driving any kind of distance. NCSL seems to try to group younger teams teams roughly by ability while keeping kids pretty local until they get to promotion and relegation. One larger league seems like the way to go.

Yep even with the CCL there is a big and consistent gap between clubs specially below u12. Above u12 it becomes a 2nd team league. Many times there are only one or two close games during the year. It’s just not productive for those involved.

At the older ages, with ECNL 2 on the horizon and DA, sorry CCL is no better than a 3rd team league. With EDP in the mix, CCL could be a 4th tier depending.

I know what’s the draw/market they are appealing to...what’s its niche?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A strategic alliance is not a merger.

so what do you think it will mean then?

Probably showcases or a revamped tournament where it’s teams from those 3 leagues combined

Ah, ok. So, not a whole lot. That's too bad in my opinion.

From my experience with both in the last few years, I think it would make sense to merge them. We can see from how well some of the recent NCSL-to-CCL teams are doing (for example, Alexandria, Herndon) that the top NCSL teams compete at the top of CCL 1. I admit I was surprised to see this after drinking the CCL kool aid.

Then we have CCL 2, which seems like such a waste of everybody's time--too much unevenness in the competition for it to be worth driving any kind of distance. NCSL seems to try to group younger teams teams roughly by ability while keeping kids pretty local until they get to promotion and relegation. One larger league seems like the way to go.

Yep even with the CCL there is a big and consistent gap between clubs specially below u12. Above u12 it becomes a 2nd team league. Many times there are only one or two close games during the year. It’s just not productive for those involved.

At the older ages, with ECNL 2 on the horizon and DA, sorry CCL is no better than a 3rd team league. With EDP in the mix, CCL could be a 4th tier depending.

I know what’s the draw/market they are appealing to...what’s its niche?

Well, the only draw is going to be for the ULittles, right? Having done both: Competition is comparable and I MUCH prefer NCSL's willingness to keep the littlest kids local.

[Anonymous]

Time for both leagues to change strategy o go away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A strategic alliance is not a merger.

so what do you think it will mean then?

Probably showcases or a revamped tournament where it’s teams from those 3 leagues combined

Would be nice to see more cross-conference play in tourneys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A strategic alliance is not a merger.

so what do you think it will mean then?

Probably showcases or a revamped tournament where it’s teams from those 3 leagues combined

Would be nice to see more cross-conference play in tourneys.

Teams play each other all the time. I have kids in the top NCSL Divisions and we play CCL teams at every conference and in futsal.