How to go about principal placement?

[Anonymous]

Last year I had a meeting with the principal while my child's appeal was pending. I came with report cards, DRA, iready, GBRS, reasons why my child needed the peer group of LLIV kids and a WISC. My child had a 149 WISC and I recall the principal saying, "with this WISC I cannot imagine the appeal not working," but she still wouldn't commit to put my child in LLIV. She has to think about it. It was odd. It ended up being for naught, as my child got in on appeal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can you do principal placement at an AAP center?

No- classes at centers are almost exclusively made up of kids in level 4 through the regular admissions process. The exception is typically when a kid in base (where the center school happens to be his base) goes over to the aap math class- just for math.

That’s not true. Our base school is a center school, principal can place a couple of kids as principal placement in the AAP class if the class size is small. But it would be limited number or may not place any if the class size is already pretty full.

How frequently? At our center/base school, the principal 2 years ago (L.Archer) said at the orientation that a benefit to the center is there is no one placed in the classes full time unless through the aap application process.

But LAES doesn’t have undersized AAP classes that need filling. That may be the difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you do principal placement at an AAP center?

No- classes at centers are almost exclusively made up of kids in level 4 through the regular admissions process. The exception is typically when a kid in base (where the center school happens to be his base) goes over to the aap math class- just for math.

That’s not true. Our base school is a center school, principal can place a couple of kids as principal placement in the AAP class if the class size is small. But it would be limited number or may not place any if the class size is already pretty full.

How frequently? At our center/base school, the principal 2 years ago (L.Archer) said at the orientation that a benefit to the center is there is no one placed in the classes full time unless through the aap application process.

But LAES doesn’t have undersized AAP classes that need filling. That may be the difference.

The principal said that was the benefit of centers, not just this center. I spoke to her individually. Again, how frequently and at what center is it done?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you do principal placement at an AAP center?

No- classes at centers are almost exclusively made up of kids in level 4 through the regular admissions process. The exception is typically when a kid in base (where the center school happens to be his base) goes over to the aap math class- just for math.

That’s not true. Our base school is a center school, principal can place a couple of kids as principal placement in the AAP class if the class size is small. But it would be limited number or may not place any if the class size is already pretty full.

How frequently? At our center/base school, the principal 2 years ago (L.Archer) said at the orientation that a benefit to the center is there is no one placed in the classes full time unless through the aap application process.

But LAES doesn’t have undersized AAP classes that need filling. That may be the difference.

It’s not done at centers. Poster is lying.
The principal said that was the benefit of centers, not just this center. I spoke to her individually. Again, how frequently and at what center is it done?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you do principal placement at an AAP center?

No- classes at centers are almost exclusively made up of kids in level 4 through the regular admissions process. The exception is typically when a kid in base (where the center school happens to be his base) goes over to the aap math class- just for math.

That’s not true. Our base school is a center school, principal can place a couple of kids as principal placement in the AAP class if the class size is small. But it would be limited number or may not place any if the class size is already pretty full.

How frequently? At our center/base school, the principal 2 years ago (L.Archer) said at the orientation that a benefit to the center is there is no one placed in the classes full time unless through the aap application process.

But LAES doesn’t have undersized AAP classes that need filling. That may be the difference.

The principal said that was the benefit of centers, not just this center. I spoke to her individually. Again, how frequently and at what center is it done?

It’s not done at centers. Poster is lying.

[Anonymous]

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My impression (which may be naive) is that the principal works with the AART teacher and 2nd grade teachers to identify kids who would be ideal for placement. I'm sure they get calls from parents, but I would hope they'd pursue the other path first before making any decisions.

You'd like to think that, but I've found from my years of dealing with FCPS that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. It stinks for those who are uncomfortable with coming across as pushy, and thus don't want to pester the administration for things like this. If you have Larla, whose parents are chill and will likely accept any decision you make, and then you also have Carla, whose mom will become a giant pain-in-the-ass and continually harass the administration if her child is placed in gen ed, the principal is more likely to principal place Carla to spare himself or herself the headache.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
My impression (which may be naive) is that the principal works with the AART teacher and 2nd grade teachers to identify kids who would be ideal for placement. I'm sure they get calls from parents, but I would hope they'd pursue the other path first before making any decisions.

You'd like to think that, but I've found from my years of dealing with FCPS that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. It stinks for those who are uncomfortable with coming across as pushy, and thus don't want to pester the administration for things like this. If you have Larla, whose parents are chill and will likely accept any decision you make, and then you also have Carla, whose mom will become a giant pain-in-the-ass and continually harass the administration if her child is placed in gen ed, the principal is more likely to principal place Carla to spare himself or herself the headache.

I agree this happens at a LL4 school, but at least at a Center, the principal can say I’m sorry, a central commitee makes that decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last year I had a meeting with the principal while my child's appeal was pending. I came with report cards, DRA, iready, GBRS, reasons why my child needed the peer group of LLIV kids and a WISC. My child had a 149 WISC and I recall the principal saying, "with this WISC I cannot imagine the appeal not working," but she still wouldn't commit to put my child in LLIV. She has to think about it. It was odd. It ended up being for naught, as my child got in on appeal.

She didn’t commit because she knew your child would likely win the appeal. She didn’t want to get involved unless she had to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year I had a meeting with the principal while my child's appeal was pending. I came with report cards, DRA, iready, GBRS, reasons why my child needed the peer group of LLIV kids and a WISC. My child had a 149 WISC and I recall the principal saying, "with this WISC I cannot imagine the appeal not working," but she still wouldn't commit to put my child in LLIV. She has to think about it. It was odd. It ended up being for naught, as my child got in on appeal.

She didn’t commit because she knew your child would likely win the appeal. She didn’t want to get involved unless she had to.

+1. She also couldn't commit without specifically knowing the number of LIV students who would be staying at the base for the LLIV class. She can't commit to principal placement before confirming that there even would be available spots.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
My impression (which may be naive) is that the principal works with the AART teacher and 2nd grade teachers to identify kids who would be ideal for placement. I'm sure they get calls from parents, but I would hope they'd pursue the other path first before making any decisions.

You'd like to think that, but I've found from my years of dealing with FCPS that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. It stinks for those who are uncomfortable with coming across as pushy, and thus don't want to pester the administration for things like this. If you have Larla, whose parents are chill and will likely accept any decision you make, and then you also have Carla, whose mom will become a giant pain-in-the-ass and continually harass the administration if her child is placed in gen ed, the principal is more likely to principal place Carla to spare himself or herself the headache.

I agree this happens at a LL4 school, but at least at a Center, the principal can say I’m sorry, a central commitee makes that decision.

This does not happen at a center school, even when aap classes are 19 or 20 (kids) and base classes are 30.

[Anonymous]

Not true. Many centers have principal placements. It's done very quietly. I know of at least two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not true. Many centers have principal placements. It's done very quietly. I know of at least two.

School and principal names please.

[Anonymous]

FCPS has a level 3 referral form on their website. We filled in the form, spoke to the AART and then submitted. Both DC were then tagged as level 3 (although one of them did get accepted into AAP subsequently). The other DC was principal placed in a L4 classroom BUT this is not guaranteed and is dependent on whether there is place in the class or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS has a level 3 referral form on their website. We filled in the form, spoke to the AART and then submitted. Both DC were then tagged as level 3 (although one of them did get accepted into AAP subsequently). The other DC was principal placed in a L4 classroom BUT this is not guaranteed and is dependent on whether there is place in the class or not.

But not at a center...

[Anonymous]

Is OP at a center or a LLIV?