Open Campus: The debate over the use of Howard's campus by neighbors

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ Some of your points are well taken. But the neighbor who told the news that the campus should be moved, is clueless and antagonistic.

Here's a link with the video.

https://www.theroot.com/move-the-campus-gentrifyinggeorge-says-students-shoul-1834172297

Damn, that guy is an idiot. I'm amazed he gave them his full name. Dude is gonna be a meme. Oh yeah, and his public Facebook page is full of pics with his husband and their dogs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Huh. I went to Columbia in NYC and we had people streaming in all the time, tourists, residents, kids and yes, dogs. I don't think there was ever an issue with it.

Those are schools with very different cultures and very different histories.

+1. Also, does Columbia have a quad? I've only been to the medical campus, but it seems more urban feeling than Howard.

Of course it does. A gorgeous one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Huh. I went to Columbia in NYC and we had people streaming in all the time, tourists, residents, kids and yes, dogs. I don't think there was ever an issue with it.

I went to Columbia and I never saw a dog poop on the quad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Huh. I went to Columbia in NYC and we had people streaming in all the time, tourists, residents, kids and yes, dogs. I don't think there was ever an issue with it.

Those are schools with very different cultures and very different histories.

+1. Also, does Columbia have a quad? I've only been to the medical campus, but it seems more urban feeling than Howard.

Of course it does. A gorgeous one.

A gorgeous one that they manage very carefully.

The thing about DC dog walkers is that they're insufferable. They've turned almost all of my local park into a dog park, ruining the turf in most of it. I'm sure they'd gladly do that to the Howard quad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Huh. I went to Columbia in NYC and we had people streaming in all the time, tourists, residents, kids and yes, dogs. I don't think there was ever an issue with it.

I went to Columbia and I never saw a dog poop on the quad.

I went to Columbia and I did see dogs poop many times. I always saw people pick up after their dogs though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I get what the Howard kids are saying. It's disrespectful for a dog to sh#t or piss on a lawn where student congregate each day. Further, you have to go out of your way to bring your dog on Howard's Yard. There's zero housing immediately adjacent to the Yard.

That said, I think the students need to worry about other, bigger issues in the world. Let HU administration crack down on the dog walkers by enforcing a no dogs on campus rule. The only public property on Howard are the sidewalks immediately adjacent to public roads.

Are you f-ing kidding? The students are perfectly reasonable. It is a private university and the carpetbagger neighbors should not be treating it as a dog park/free space without regard for it's main purpose. If black neighbors were hanging around a predominantly white university, I bet people would be supportive of the students' feelings.

BTW, the bearded neighbor has some very NSFW pictures on his twitter. He seems like a douche all around.

The HU students are not doing themselves any favors in the media - "talk soft softly but carry a big stick" is a much more effective approach. Hence why I said they should let HU administration deal with it. I am 100% in support of Howard banning dogs and agree that it's disrespectful to use the campus as a dog park. That's a no-brainer.

But the the HU students are not handling this in a savvy manner. There's more effective ways to get your point across.

+2. The students aren’t wrong but need to be quiet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I get what the Howard kids are saying. It's disrespectful for a dog to sh#t or piss on a lawn where student congregate each day. Further, you have to go out of your way to bring your dog on Howard's Yard. There's zero housing immediately adjacent to the Yard.

That said, I think the students need to worry about other, bigger issues in the world. Let HU administration crack down on the dog walkers by enforcing a no dogs on campus rule. The only public property on Howard are the sidewalks immediately adjacent to public roads.

Are you f-ing kidding? The students are perfectly reasonable. It is a private university and the carpetbagger neighbors should not be treating it as a dog park/free space without regard for it's main purpose. If black neighbors were hanging around a predominantly white university, I bet people would be supportive of the students' feelings.

BTW, the bearded neighbor has some very NSFW pictures on his twitter. He seems like a douche all around.

The HU students are not doing themselves any favors in the media - "talk soft softly but carry a big stick" is a much more effective approach. Hence why I said they should let HU administration deal with it. I am 100% in support of Howard banning dogs and agree that it's disrespectful to use the campus as a dog park. That's a no-brainer.

But the the HU students are not handling this in a savvy manner. There's more effective ways to get your point across.

+2. The students aren’t wrong but need to be quiet.

wtf ... ? really? they "need to be quiet"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get what the Howard kids are saying. It's disrespectful for a dog to sh#t or piss on a lawn where student congregate each day. Further, you have to go out of your way to bring your dog on Howard's Yard. There's zero housing immediately adjacent to the Yard.

That said, I think the students need to worry about other, bigger issues in the world. Let HU administration crack down on the dog walkers by enforcing a no dogs on campus rule. The only public property on Howard are the sidewalks immediately adjacent to public roads.

Are you f-ing kidding? The students are perfectly reasonable. It is a private university and the carpetbagger neighbors should not be treating it as a dog park/free space without regard for it's main purpose. If black neighbors were hanging around a predominantly white university, I bet people would be supportive of the students' feelings.

BTW, the bearded neighbor has some very NSFW pictures on his twitter. He seems like a douche all around.

The HU students are not doing themselves any favors in the media - "talk soft softly but carry a big stick" is a much more effective approach. Hence why I said they should let HU administration deal with it. I am 100% in support of Howard banning dogs and agree that it's disrespectful to use the campus as a dog park. That's a no-brainer.

But the the HU students are not handling this in a savvy manner. There's more effective ways to get your point across.

+2. The students aren’t wrong but need to be quiet.

wtf ... ? really? they "need to be quiet"?

Yes. They should let the administration handle this. Some of the students are being...students, as in they are young and lack perspective and think this is some major civil rights issue and it’s not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I get what the Howard kids are saying. It's disrespectful for a dog to sh#t or piss on a lawn where student congregate each day. Further, you have to go out of your way to bring your dog on Howard's Yard. There's zero housing immediately adjacent to the Yard.

That said, I think the students need to worry about other, bigger issues in the world. Let HU administration crack down on the dog walkers by enforcing a no dogs on campus rule. The only public property on Howard are the sidewalks immediately adjacent to public roads.

Are you f-ing kidding? The students are perfectly reasonable. It is a private university and the carpetbagger neighbors should not be treating it as a dog park/free space without regard for it's main purpose. If black neighbors were hanging around a predominantly white university, I bet people would be supportive of the students' feelings.

BTW, the bearded neighbor has some very NSFW pictures on his twitter. He seems like a douche all around.

The HU students are not doing themselves any favors in the media - "talk soft softly but carry a big stick" is a much more effective approach. Hence why I said they should let HU administration deal with it. I am 100% in support of Howard banning dogs and agree that it's disrespectful to use the campus as a dog park. That's a no-brainer.

But the the HU students are not handling this in a savvy manner. There's more effective ways to get your point across.

+2. The students aren’t wrong but need to be quiet.

wtf ... ? really? they "need to be quiet"?

Yes. They should let the administration handle this. Some of the students are being...students, as in they are young and lack perspective and think this is some major civil rights issue and it’s not.

Says you. Many adults agree with them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get what the Howard kids are saying. It's disrespectful for a dog to sh#t or piss on a lawn where student congregate each day. Further, you have to go out of your way to bring your dog on Howard's Yard. There's zero housing immediately adjacent to the Yard.

That said, I think the students need to worry about other, bigger issues in the world. Let HU administration crack down on the dog walkers by enforcing a no dogs on campus rule. The only public property on Howard are the sidewalks immediately adjacent to public roads.

Are you f-ing kidding? The students are perfectly reasonable. It is a private university and the carpetbagger neighbors should not be treating it as a dog park/free space without regard for it's main purpose. If black neighbors were hanging around a predominantly white university, I bet people would be supportive of the students' feelings.

BTW, the bearded neighbor has some very NSFW pictures on his twitter. He seems like a douche all around.

The HU students are not doing themselves any favors in the media - "talk soft softly but carry a big stick" is a much more effective approach. Hence why I said they should let HU administration deal with it. I am 100% in support of Howard banning dogs and agree that it's disrespectful to use the campus as a dog park. That's a no-brainer.

But the the HU students are not handling this in a savvy manner. There's more effective ways to get your point across.

+2. The students aren’t wrong but need to be quiet.

wtf ... ? really? they "need to be quiet"?

Yes. They should let the administration handle this. Some of the students are being...students, as in they are young and lack perspective and think this is some major civil rights issue and it’s not.

Says you. Many adults agree with them.

+1 the entitlement is thick in here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get what the Howard kids are saying. It's disrespectful for a dog to sh#t or piss on a lawn where student congregate each day. Further, you have to go out of your way to bring your dog on Howard's Yard. There's zero housing immediately adjacent to the Yard.

That said, I think the students need to worry about other, bigger issues in the world. Let HU administration crack down on the dog walkers by enforcing a no dogs on campus rule. The only public property on Howard are the sidewalks immediately adjacent to public roads.

Are you f-ing kidding? The students are perfectly reasonable. It is a private university and the carpetbagger neighbors should not be treating it as a dog park/free space without regard for it's main purpose. If black neighbors were hanging around a predominantly white university, I bet people would be supportive of the students' feelings.

BTW, the bearded neighbor has some very NSFW pictures on his twitter. He seems like a douche all around.

Hahahahaha.

If white students complained about black neighbors they would be called racist fascist Nazis and the NYT and WaPo would publish a dozen stories attacking them.

[Anonymous]

This sounds like regular college student snowflakiness. Walking a dog does not desecrate a space.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get what the Howard kids are saying. It's disrespectful for a dog to sh#t or piss on a lawn where student congregate each day. Further, you have to go out of your way to bring your dog on Howard's Yard. There's zero housing immediately adjacent to the Yard.

That said, I think the students need to worry about other, bigger issues in the world. Let HU administration crack down on the dog walkers by enforcing a no dogs on campus rule. The only public property on Howard are the sidewalks immediately adjacent to public roads.

Are you f-ing kidding? The students are perfectly reasonable. It is a private university and the carpetbagger neighbors should not be treating it as a dog park/free space without regard for it's main purpose. If black neighbors were hanging around a predominantly white university, I bet people would be supportive of the students' feelings.

BTW, the bearded neighbor has some very NSFW pictures on his twitter. He seems like a douche all around.

The HU students are not doing themselves any favors in the media - "talk soft softly but carry a big stick" is a much more effective approach. Hence why I said they should let HU administration deal with it. I am 100% in support of Howard banning dogs and agree that it's disrespectful to use the campus as a dog park. That's a no-brainer.

But the the HU students are not handling this in a savvy manner. There's more effective ways to get your point across.

+2. The students aren’t wrong but need to be quiet.

wtf ... ? really? they "need to be quiet"?

Yes. They should let the administration handle this. Some of the students are being...students, as in they are young and lack perspective and think this is some major civil rights issue and it’s not.

Says you. Many adults agree with them.

+1 the entitlement is thick in here.

I am the PP saying students need to be quiet. I am agreeing with you all. I just think the students lack the PR savvy to handle this effectively, If their goal is to actually get dogs off the yard vs just complaining loudly about safe spaces and gentrification.

[Anonymous]

This makes me feel like, as a white person, I would be unwelcome and made to feel unsafe walking anywhere on the HU campus, with or without a dog. Sure, the dog walking is the pretext, but the subtext seems to be that no white person can enter the campus without the express permission of a black person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This makes me feel like, as a white person, I would be unwelcome and made to feel unsafe walking anywhere on the HU campus, with or without a dog. Sure, the dog walking is the pretext, but the subtext seems to be that no white person can enter the campus without the express permission of a black person.

HBCUs were created bc blacks were unwelcome on white campuses. And our current President has made it clear that many minorities are not welcome in the states either. White ppl have the entire country at their feet. This is one Yard. Just one. Y’all will live.