USC - Still Apply?

[Anonymous]

USC received close to 70,000 applications this year ---it's popular

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course!

of course, for me as well

[Anonymous]

Of course people will still apply. It’s one of the best colleges in the US. This was not in the admissions department of any of the schools mentioned. It was bad actors in the athletics departments of the schools. The Georgetown coach was involved with at least 12 students. Will it affect Georgetown?

Last year, we saw the stories about deferral/rejections from donors to UVA being kicked back to UVA admissions to “take another look”. Those kicked back were for donating families in the several hundred thousand dollar range. This was in the UVA admissions office. Ironically, that 500k spent by Loughlin would have legally bought her a spot at UVA easily. For a spot at USC, Stanford, Yale, Georgetown, that 500k open donation won’t work.

UVA is a top public college. It’s still just that, a state school. All state schools are predominantly state residents; though Michigan does seem to be raising its OOS presence every year. The UC’s have 40 million residents to draw from. UVA isn’t even the best engineering school in its own state. Is Michigan? The only Public University’s that maybe belong in the top 30 are Berkeley, UCLA, and Michigan. And yes, I said maybe in the top 30. Graduate school is a different story. UVA’s Medical, Law, and Business schools keep their ranking high.

The top 30 colleges in the US are private’s and the top LAC’s;

Start with the Ivy’s and work your way up from the South, North, and out West.

Ivy’s - Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell (8).
South - Duke, Vanderbilt, Emory (3)
DC/North - Georgetown, Johns Hopkins, Notre Dame, Chicago, Northwestern, Carnegie Mellon, MIT, NYU, Tufts (9)
West - WUSL, Rice, Stanford, Cal Tech, USC (5)
LAC’s - Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore (3)

That’s 28 right there. Is anyone seriously going to choose UVA over any of these schools if cost isn’t an issue? You can start throwing in the Public’s around the mid to high twenties, and that list begins with Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan. Then the next tier of Public schools like UVA, GA Tech, UNC, UF, UT, UWash, UWisc. But they’re mixed in with the next layer of Private’s and LAC’s.

[Anonymous]

No. USC was always the University of Spoled Children or University of Second Chance (after UCLA) decades ago whenI went to school and taught there. it is not worth 75K. A year unless you want to pay that for a party school. google USC news and read what former faculty and trustees are saying. USC code to look the other way too long and play the college admissions game. there will be a lo of further disclosures coming. go to a good state school. Bank the difference. get great grades and put your effort into getting into a truly xlnt grad program

[Anonymous]

Did you teach English or Writing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course people will still apply. It’s one of the best colleges in the US. This was not in the admissions department of any of the schools mentioned. It was bad actors in the athletics departments of the schools. The Georgetown coach was involved with at least 12 students. Will it affect Georgetown?

Last year, we saw the stories about deferral/rejections from donors to UVA being kicked back to UVA admissions to “take another look”. Those kicked back were for donating families in the several hundred thousand dollar range. This was in the UVA admissions office. Ironically, that 500k spent by Loughlin would have legally bought her a spot at UVA easily. For a spot at USC, Stanford, Yale, Georgetown, that 500k open donation won’t work.

UVA is a top public college. It’s still just that, a state school. All state schools are predominantly state residents; though Michigan does seem to be raising its OOS presence every year. The UC’s have 40 million residents to draw from. UVA isn’t even the best engineering school in its own state. Is Michigan? The only Public University’s that maybe belong in the top 30 are Berkeley, UCLA, and Michigan. And yes, I said maybe in the top 30. Graduate school is a different story. UVA’s Medical, Law, and Business schools keep their ranking high.

The top 30 colleges in the US are private’s and the top LAC’s;

Start with the Ivy’s and work your way up from the South, North, and out West.

Ivy’s - Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell (8).
South - Duke, Vanderbilt, Emory (3)
DC/North - Georgetown, Johns Hopkins, Notre Dame, Chicago, Northwestern, Carnegie Mellon, MIT, NYU, Tufts (9)
West - WUSL, Rice, Stanford, Cal Tech, USC (5)
LAC’s - Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore (3)

That’s 28 right there. Is anyone seriously going to choose UVA over any of these schools if cost isn’t an issue? You can start throwing in the Public’s around the mid to high twenties, and that list begins with Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan. Then the next tier of Public schools like UVA, GA Tech, UNC, UF, UT, UWash, UWisc. But they’re mixed in with the next layer of Private’s and LAC’s.

Actually yes. Schools on that list that I have heard of, but don't know enough about to know that they're highly regarded are tufts and Emory, the SLACs have absolutely no appeal to me at all. And I don't know what WUSL is

[Anonymous]

https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/usc-scandals/

[Anonymous]

Simply google people. The list of sandals at USC just continues to grow:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/03/14/us/usc-college-cheating-scandal-bribes.amp.html

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“...But a series of corruption scandals has torn through the university, threatening those years of image building.

In 2017, the medical school dean was fired over accusations of drug use and prostitution, and his successor resigned after allegations of sexual harassment. After yet another scandal emerged in 2018, involving a campus gynecologist accused of sexual misconduct, the university’s president, C.L. Max Nikias, was forced to step down. Then at the end of last year, the dean of the business school was ousted over the mishandling of workplace misconduct claims.

How the university built itself up only to be undermined by such profound internal turmoil has left students, parents, faculty and the vast Trojan alumni network wondering whether the university can manage to maintain its stature. It has also prompted many to begin asking: Has the push to raise money to boost the school’s programs gone too far? Is everything at U.S.C. for sale?”

[Anonymous]

Waste. Of. Money.

[Anonymous]

No way will I let my kid apply to USC. Way too many scandals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this college and all colleges will be extra vigilant in accepting only those that meet the criteria - who applied and excelled in school and took their studies seriously.

What I wouldn’t want is for my kid to be around vapid, snobby California YouTubers. Please tell me if this is a good fit for a local. The surrounding neighborhood also concerns me but isn’t this common?

+100 My opinion of this school has plunged.

[Anonymous]

Nothing has changed that matters to your family.

Good luck with the applications next season.

[Anonymous]

A UPenn basketball coach took a bribe and that case is in court right now. Is Penn deminished academically? Not st all.

[Anonymous]

Hard pass.