Damascus teen to be tried as a juvenile

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Good, he is a juvenile.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good, he is a juvenile.


You can't rehabilitate a sex offender. I certainly wouldn't want him in class with my daughter or son.

We already had one experience in MS where a boy placed his hands up my daughter's friends skirt. This occurred during class. returned after a few days to a new schedule - ended up in my daughter's history class

I'm doubtful he'll be receiving any awards for being a supporter of women's rights.

Even if therapy is consistent, they cannot be in a normal setting. We do everything in our power NOT to protect the innocent ones who just want to learn in a safe environment.


This is just not true. You absolutely can rehabilitate a sex offender, and what type of sex offender matters in terms of the likely success of rehabilitation. Middle schoolers do all kinds of stupid ridiculous things they saw in a movie or read about God knows where or heard some older kid claim to have done. Adolescents are trying on personalities, and it is adults’ jobs to teach them what is healthy and acceptable. They will f up, sometimes badly. It does not mean they are worthless and cannot learn grow and improve.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am going to disagree. These boys ruined the lives of 4 boys by assaulting/raping them. Sending them to juvenile detention until they are 18 is not enough of a consequence for their actions.


True but it's less likely they will reoffend when they are released.
Anonymous
If you think the penalties for juveniles are too light, then advocate for harsher sentencing in juvenile courts. Sending an offender to a court system that was designed for somebody else is ridiculous. Besides these are cases where the offender is just a few months from 18 or even a year. He’s 15. He is a juvenile.
Anonymous
I can't believe the judge described the incident as "being poked by a broomstick". What a complete asshat. Whether the student should be tried as a juvenile is one thing, but this judge seems incompetent at best to describe a brutal rape as "being poked". Disgusting..
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can't believe the judge described the incident as "being poked by a broomstick". What a complete asshat. Whether the student should be tried as a juvenile is one thing, but this judge seems incompetent at best to describe a brutal rape as "being poked". Disgusting..


"Poke" has several definitions, including:
intransitive verb
1a : to make a prodding, jabbing, or thrusting movement especially repeatedly

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't believe the judge described the incident as "being poked by a broomstick". What a complete asshat. Whether the student should be tried as a juvenile is one thing, but this judge seems incompetent at best to describe a brutal rape as "being poked". Disgusting..


"Poke" has several definitions, including:
intransitive verb
1a : to make a prodding, jabbing, or thrusting movement especially repeatedly



NP- it still minimizes the rape.

When a woman is raped, you don’t say she was poked with a penis. Rape is rape.
Anonymous
There has to be a bright line and it cannot shift based on how bad you think the crime is, or the public perception. If a 15-year-old is capable of being tried as an adult for a serious crime, why can they then not enlist in the military, vote, smoke, drink, or drive like an adult? Either they're mature enough or they're not. I would have been more upset if this kid was tried as an adult just because of media attention and outrage--that is not how decisions should be made.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't believe the judge described the incident as "being poked by a broomstick". What a complete asshat. Whether the student should be tried as a juvenile is one thing, but this judge seems incompetent at best to describe a brutal rape as "being poked". Disgusting..


"Poke" has several definitions, including:
intransitive verb
1a : to make a prodding, jabbing, or thrusting movement especially repeatedly



Really? Overall, the connotative meaning is generally less offensive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good, he is a juvenile.


You can't rehabilitate a sex offender. I certainly wouldn't want him in class with my daughter or son.

We already had one experience in MS where a boy placed his hands up my daughter's friends skirt. This occurred during class. returned after a few days to a new schedule - ended up in my daughter's history class

I'm doubtful he'll be receiving any awards for being a supporter of women's rights.

Even if therapy is consistent, they cannot be in a normal setting. We do everything in our power NOT to protect the innocent ones who just want to learn in a safe environment.


This is just not true. You absolutely can rehabilitate a sex offender, and what type of sex offender matters in terms of the likely success of rehabilitation. Middle schoolers do all kinds of stupid ridiculous things they saw in a movie or read about God knows where or heard some older kid claim to have done. Adolescents are trying on personalities, and it is adults’ jobs to teach them what is healthy and acceptable. They will f up, sometimes badly. It does not mean they are worthless and cannot learn grow and improve.


Until it happens to your child

Don't talk to me about work, if that's your experience in some social service job. Talk to me about your child being sexually assaulted. I am a parent of two and am no stranger to what happens in a school setting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good, he is a juvenile.


You can't rehabilitate a sex offender. I certainly wouldn't want him in class with my daughter or son.

We already had one experience in MS where a boy placed his hands up my daughter's friends skirt. This occurred during class. returned after a few days to a new schedule - ended up in my daughter's history class

I'm doubtful he'll be receiving any awards for being a supporter of women's rights.

Even if therapy is consistent, they cannot be in a normal setting. We do everything in our power NOT to protect the innocent ones who just want to learn in a safe environment.


This is just not true. You absolutely can rehabilitate a sex offender, and what type of sex offender matters in terms of the likely success of rehabilitation. Middle schoolers do all kinds of stupid ridiculous things they saw in a movie or read about God knows where or heard some older kid claim to have done. Adolescents are trying on personalities, and it is adults’ jobs to teach them what is healthy and acceptable. They will f up, sometimes badly. It does not mean they are worthless and cannot learn grow and improve.


Until it happens to your child

Don't talk to me about work, if that's your experience in some social service job. Talk to me about your child being sexually assaulted. I am a parent of two and am no stranger to what happens in a school setting.


I don't see how belittling people with "some social service job" is helpful here. They are exactly who we need more of to address these serious problems.
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