Hogan should run for Senate

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why do you think he doesnt have a good chance? he is a very popular governor. I would vote for him

Van Hollen is popular, unlike his other opponents. And more importantly, with a vote in the Senate at stake, many moderate Dems who supported him for Governor wouldn't support him this time around.

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State elections are one thing but no way I'd vote to tip the senate to the GOP.

+2. A vote for Hogan for Senate is a vote for Mitch McConnell. Maryland is not going to do that. Just ask Connie Morella, who finally lost to Van Hollen after a vote for her became a vote for Gingrich.

Newt Gingrich resigned from Congress in January 1999.

Chris beat Connie nearly 4 years later in November 1992. He won because Maryland Democrats re-drew the 8th Congressional district into a funny-looking shape that was much more heavily Democratic than the district from the previous decade.

*2002, not 1992.

And Connie Morella was NEVER an automatic vote for Gingrich.

[Anonymous]

Hogan would easily win in Maryland if he ran for Senate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why do you think he doesnt have a good chance? he is a very popular governor. I would vote for him

Van Hollen is popular, unlike his other opponents. And more importantly, with a vote in the Senate at stake, many moderate Dems who supported him for Governor wouldn't support him this time around.

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State elections are one thing but no way I'd vote to tip the senate to the GOP.

+2. A vote for Hogan for Senate is a vote for Mitch McConnell. Maryland is not going to do that. Just ask Connie Morella, who finally lost to Van Hollen after a vote for her became a vote for Gingrich.

Newt Gingrich resigned from Congress in January 1999.

Chris beat Connie nearly 4 years later in November 1992. He won because Maryland Democrats re-drew the 8th Congressional district into a funny-looking shape that was much more heavily Democratic than the district from the previous decade.

*2002, not 1992.

And Connie Morella was NEVER an automatic vote for Gingrich.

You misunderstand the PP. The point wasn't that Morella always voted for Gingrich, it's that Morella, or any republican in that seat, was a vote that helped the GOP retain the majority, the Speakership, and all the inherent power that comes form that.

[Anonymous]

Here's an idea.

Hogan should run for Senate as an Independent.

He could possibly win with a libertarianish fiscal conservative/social center-liberal position. He could win votes from registered Republicans and Democrats and if elected, vote as he pleases, not giving either party an edge in leadership.

Call me naive, but this is what I wish Hogan would do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hogan would easily win in Maryland if he ran for Senate.

You have zero understanding of politics, or psychology.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's an idea.

Hogan should run for Senate as an Independent.

He could possibly win with a libertarianish fiscal conservative/social center-liberal position. He could win votes from registered Republicans and Democrats and if elected, vote as he pleases, not giving either party an edge in leadership.

Call me naive, but this is what I wish Hogan would do.

You're naive (or ill-informed), and here's why. Leaving aside the unlikelihood that he would win, if he did manage to pull it out, Hogan has to pick a party to caucus with. If he doesn't do that, he doesn't get any committee assignments, and dramatically limits his influence. He's obviously going to caucus with the GOP, being a lifelong Republican, which would be a vote for GOP control of the chamber.

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Anonymous wrote:why do you think he doesnt have a good chance? he is a very popular governor. I would vote for him

Van Hollen is popular, unlike his other opponents. And more importantly, with a vote in the Senate at stake, many moderate Dems who supported him for Governor wouldn't support him this time around.

+1
State elections are one thing but no way I'd vote to tip the senate to the GOP.

+2. A vote for Hogan for Senate is a vote for Mitch McConnell. Maryland is not going to do that. Just ask Connie Morella, who finally lost to Van Hollen after a vote for her became a vote for Gingrich.

Newt Gingrich resigned from Congress in January 1999.

Chris beat Connie nearly 4 years later in November 1992. He won because Maryland Democrats re-drew the 8th Congressional district into a funny-looking shape that was much more heavily Democratic than the district from the previous decade.

*2002, not 1992.

And Connie Morella was NEVER an automatic vote for Gingrich.

You misunderstand the PP. The point wasn't that Morella always voted for Gingrich, it's that Morella, or any republican in that seat, was a vote that helped the GOP retain the majority, the Speakership, and all the inherent power that comes form that.

Correct, thank you for clarifying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why do you think he doesnt have a good chance? he is a very popular governor. I would vote for him

Because dems hate him. Even the ones who vote for him.

They’ll do it on a state level, and it remains their dirty little shameful secret that no one needs to know about. But if gets put in a national office, the dems in the rest of the country will know MD dems voted for a republican.

And that CANNOT be abided.

I don't hate Hogan - he's been a decent governor. But I will not cast a vote that supports the GOP retaining control of the Senate. Has absolutely nothing to do with Hogan personally.

Same here.
State level - I'm not really care about party affiliations, Senate - I won't vote for GOP Senator. I might vote for POTUS Hogan

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Anonymous wrote:why do you think he doesnt have a good chance? he is a very popular governor. I would vote for him

Van Hollen is popular, unlike his other opponents. And more importantly, with a vote in the Senate at stake, many moderate Dems who supported him for Governor wouldn't support him this time around.

+1
State elections are one thing but no way I'd vote to tip the senate to the GOP.

+2. A vote for Hogan for Senate is a vote for Mitch McConnell. Maryland is not going to do that. Just ask Connie Morella, who finally lost to Van Hollen after a vote for her became a vote for Gingrich.

Newt Gingrich resigned from Congress in January 1999.

Chris beat Connie nearly 4 years later in November 1992. He won because Maryland Democrats re-drew the 8th Congressional district into a funny-looking shape that was much more heavily Democratic than the district from the previous decade.

*2002, not 1992.

And Connie Morella was NEVER an automatic vote for Gingrich.

You misunderstand the PP. The point wasn't that Morella always voted for Gingrich, it's that Morella, or any republican in that seat, was a vote that helped the GOP retain the majority, the Speakership, and all the inherent power that comes form that.

Correct, thank you for clarifying.

No, I didn’t misunderstand.

It wasn’t that close in the House.

The Senate can be a different story, yes.

[Anonymous]

I supported Hogan for Governor, despite my Democratic leanings. If he ever got thru the Republican nomination process, I would consider voting for him for President. However, given the Republican mentality on Capital Hill, I would never vote for him for Senate or House.