Last week's CDC report on the flu

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here. Please see the number of people who have posted on the "hives" thread for an example of what I mean by unpredictable reactions. It's not good.

I don't think 18 people died of hives this week. Are itchy welts really that much more scary than death? Maybe the deaths would hit home if the mothers posted about their children on DCUM.

No, I dont think so.

And clearly you have never watched your kid suffer with an unexplained rash and fever of 104 for 3 days straight, as they cried and cried for you to do something about it, as you got zero explanation from your dr's office about how to help them besides give him Motrin, which did nothing.

It must be nice to not have to struggle with these issues, for it to be a no-brainer. I wish it could be that way for me.

That, I think, is a totally different issue. Obviously the above-mentioned case is different in that the kid was ill with something -- hives from a vaccine (or anything) is WAY different that 104 fever with rash...

[Anonymous]

I posted that about the fever and rash. It is different, I know, and I think I probably overreact about the possibilities now. It was just horrid--I wish it on no one!

[Anonymous]

If my kid was allergic to eggs or had past, adverse reactions to the flu shot, I too would struggle with what to do.

But even if you think that your child is unlikely to be one of the unlucky ones that dies from H1N1, don't you think that your child is still very likely to contract the flu? So what you are really weighing is a reaction to the shot, like hives and a slight fever for a couple of days, against a very high fever, vomitting and cough, etc. for a week.

For what it is worth, I have not waited in line for hours for my kids to get the shot. I always just found out I am pregnant and am not rushing to get the shot. My toddler did receive the first dose from his pediatrician and I will wait for them to open it up for my older one (who has already gotten the flu this winter anyways).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because pediatric death rates from flu are still very low and below the incidence of Guillain-Barre Syndrome. When you know someone who has it, you take that very rare disease (1 per 100,000) seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because pediatric death rates from flu are still very low and below the incidence of Guillain-Barre Syndrome. When you know someone who has it, you take that very rare disease (1 per 100,000) seriously.

In order to make that statement, you have to include all the cases of GBS that aren't due to vaccines, though. This is really incorrect logic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here. Please see the number of people who have posted on the "hives" thread for an example of what I mean by unpredictable reactions. It's not good.

I don't think 18 people died of hives this week. Are itchy welts really that much more scary than death? Maybe the deaths would hit home if the mothers posted about their children on DCUM.

No, I dont think so.

And clearly you have never watched your kid suffer with an unexplained rash and fever of 104 for 3 days straight, as they cried and cried for you to do something about it, as you got zero explanation from your dr's office about how to help them besides give him Motrin, which did nothing.

It must be nice to not have to struggle with these issues, for it to be a no-brainer. I wish it could be that way for me.

You have to be kidding me. I'm a parent on this site. Of course I have been through rashes and fevers. I'm sorry but that's part of parenting, and a case of hives is not a big crisis. And yes, both DH and I have had hives before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/fluactivity.htm

18 pediatric deaths reported last week related to the flu.

If you are still on the fence about vaccination.... Hoping you won't wait any longer.

18 is really a very low number compared to how many children die from the seasonal flu. What was that number for the past two flu seasons? Much higher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/fluactivity.htm

18 pediatric deaths reported last week related to the flu.

If you are still on the fence about vaccination.... Hoping you won't wait any longer.

18 is really a very low number compared to how many children die from the seasonal flu. What was that number for the past two flu seasons? Much higher.

No! That is 18 in ONE week. Normal pediatric flu deaths for an entire flu season are typically between 50 - 100. We are on track for a much more deadly flu season this year.

[Anonymous]

I don't think the CDC reported 18 pediatric deaths in one week. I think it just added 18 to the total for the season. The deaths occurred over the last few months. Terrible to report any, but please read the report carefully.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think the CDC reported 18 pediatric deaths in one week. I think it just added 18 to the total for the season. The deaths occurred over the last few months. Terrible to report any, but please read the report carefully.

You don't THINK? Did YOU read the report? I did and it says:

2009-2010 Influenza Season Week 43 ending October 31, 2009
All data are preliminary and may change as more reports are received.

Synopsis:
During week 43 (October 25-31, 2009), influenza activity remained elevated in the U.S.

•Eighteen influenza-associated pediatric deaths were reported. Fifteen of these deaths were associated with 2009 influenza A (H1N1) virus infection and three were associated with an influenza A virus for which the subtype was undetermined.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think the CDC reported 18 pediatric deaths in one week. I think it just added 18 to the total for the season. The deaths occurred over the last few months. Terrible to report any, but please read the report carefully.

You don't THINK? Did YOU read the report? I did and it says:

2009-2010 Influenza Season Week 43 ending October 31, 2009
All data are preliminary and may change as more reports are received.

Synopsis:
During week 43 (October 25-31, 2009), influenza activity remained elevated in the U.S.

•Eighteen influenza-associated pediatric deaths were reported. Fifteen of these deaths were associated with 2009 influenza A (H1N1) virus infection and three were associated with an influenza A virus for which the subtype was undetermined.

PP, read the tone of the poster you quote and then the tone of your own post. You are frothing at the mouth in comparison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think the CDC reported 18 pediatric deaths in one week. I think it just added 18 to the total for the season. The deaths occurred over the last few months. Terrible to report any, but please read the report carefully.

You don't THINK? Did YOU read the report? I did and it says:

2009-2010 Influenza Season Week 43 ending October 31, 2009
All data are preliminary and may change as more reports are received.

Synopsis:
During week 43 (October 25-31, 2009), influenza activity remained elevated in the U.S.

•Eighteen influenza-associated pediatric deaths were reported. Fifteen of these deaths were associated with 2009 influenza A (H1N1) virus infection and three were associated with an influenza A virus for which the subtype was undetermined.

PP, read the tone of the poster you quote and then the tone of your own post. You are frothing at the mouth in comparison.

New poster here, but: it's unbelievably frustrating when someone whose misunderstanding of research (and refusal to make any attempt to verify) approaches lying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think the CDC reported 18 pediatric deaths in one week. I think it just added 18 to the total for the season. The deaths occurred over the last few months. Terrible to report any, but please read the report carefully.

You don't THINK? Did YOU read the report? I did and it says:

2009-2010 Influenza Season Week 43 ending October 31, 2009
All data are preliminary and may change as more reports are received.

Synopsis:
During week 43 (October 25-31, 2009), influenza activity remained elevated in the U.S.

•Eighteen influenza-associated pediatric deaths were reported. Fifteen of these deaths were associated with 2009 influenza A (H1N1) virus infection and three were associated with an influenza A virus for which the subtype was undetermined.

PP, read the tone of the poster you quote and then the tone of your own post. You are frothing at the mouth in comparison.

New poster here, but: it's unbelievably frustrating when someone whose misunderstanding of research (and refusal to make any attempt to verify) approaches lying.

Lying? Wow. Are you really two different posters?

[Anonymous]

Eighteen influenza-associated pediatric deaths were reported to CDC during week 43 (California [8], Indiana, Louisiana [2], Mississippi, New York, Oklahoma, Texas [2], Virginia, and West Virginia). Fifteen of these deaths were associated with 2009 influenza A (H1N1) virus infection and three were associated with an influenza A virus for which the subtype is undetermined. These deaths occurred between July 12 and October 31, 2009. Seven deaths reported during week 43 occurred during the 2008-09 season, bringing the total number of reported pediatric deaths occurring during that season to 124.


PP: It says that 18 deaths were reported during week 43 but if you read further it says the deaths did not necessarily occur during week 43.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think the CDC reported 18 pediatric deaths in one week. I think it just added 18 to the total for the season. The deaths occurred over the last few months. Terrible to report any, but please read the report carefully.

You don't THINK? Did YOU read the report? I did and it says:

2009-2010 Influenza Season Week 43 ending October 31, 2009
All data are preliminary and may change as more reports are received.

Synopsis:
During week 43 (October 25-31, 2009), influenza activity remained elevated in the U.S.

•Eighteen influenza-associated pediatric deaths were reported. Fifteen of these deaths were associated with 2009 influenza A (H1N1) virus infection and three were associated with an influenza A virus for which the subtype was undetermined.

PP, read the tone of the poster you quote and then the tone of your own post. You are frothing at the mouth in comparison.

New poster here, but: it's unbelievably frustrating when someone whose misunderstanding of research (and refusal to make any attempt to verify) approaches lying.

So now what do you (and the indignant PP I said was frothing at the mouth) have to say for yourselves?

Anonymous wrote:


Eighteen influenza-associated pediatric deaths were reported to CDC during week 43 (California [8], Indiana, Louisiana [2], Mississippi, New York, Oklahoma, Texas [2], Virginia, and West Virginia). Fifteen of these deaths were associated with 2009 influenza A (H1N1) virus infection and three were associated with an influenza A virus for which the subtype is undetermined. These deaths occurred between July 12 and October 31, 2009. Seven deaths reported during week 43 occurred during the 2008-09 season, bringing the total number of reported pediatric deaths occurring during that season to 124.


PP: It says that 18 deaths were reported during week 43 but if you read further it says the deaths did not necessarily occur during week 43.