Rejections to Magnets. What Does it Mean for Enriched Classes?

[Anonymous]

Last year, in response to a public records request, MCPS published a spread sheet that showed all the Middle Schools in the pilot area, with the number of kids who qualified under each criteria - Cogat (broken down by section) MAP tests, and PARCC.

Based on the numbers of kids in our home middle school in the enriched classes, if you qualified under any single criteria, you got placed into the enriched class. All bright kids, but there's a big spread in abilities in the enriched classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last year, in response to a public records request, MCPS published a spread sheet that showed all the Middle Schools in the pilot area, with the number of kids who qualified under each criteria - Cogat (broken down by section) MAP tests, and PARCC.

Based on the numbers of kids in our home middle school in the enriched classes, if you qualified under any single criteria, you got placed into the enriched class. All bright kids, but there's a big spread in abilities in the enriched classes.

Do you mind posting the spreadsheet/link? What is a qualifier for any single criteria?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year, in response to a public records request, MCPS published a spread sheet that showed all the Middle Schools in the pilot area, with the number of kids who qualified under each criteria - Cogat (broken down by section) MAP tests, and PARCC.

Based on the numbers of kids in our home middle school in the enriched classes, if you qualified under any single criteria, you got placed into the enriched class. All bright kids, but there's a big spread in abilities in the enriched classes.

Do you mind posting the spreadsheet/link? What is a qualifier for any single criteria?

Here's the link, but there's no information for the cutoff for the criteria: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/msmagnet/about/MS%20Magnet%20Field%20Test%20Data%20by%20Sending%20MS.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year, in response to a public records request, MCPS published a spread sheet that showed all the Middle Schools in the pilot area, with the number of kids who qualified under each criteria - Cogat (broken down by section) MAP tests, and PARCC.

Based on the numbers of kids in our home middle school in the enriched classes, if you qualified under any single criteria, you got placed into the enriched class. All bright kids, but there's a big spread in abilities in the enriched classes.

Do you mind posting the spreadsheet/link? What is a qualifier for any single criteria?

Here's the link, but there's no information for the cutoff for the criteria: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/msmagnet/about/MS%20Magnet%20Field%20Test%20Data%20by%20Sending%20MS.pdf

This link doesn't really state the requirements for placement in MS enriched classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year, in response to a public records request, MCPS published a spread sheet that showed all the Middle Schools in the pilot area, with the number of kids who qualified under each criteria - Cogat (broken down by section) MAP tests, and PARCC.

Based on the numbers of kids in our home middle school in the enriched classes, if you qualified under any single criteria, you got placed into the enriched class. All bright kids, but there's a big spread in abilities in the enriched classes.

Do you mind posting the spreadsheet/link? What is a qualifier for any single criteria?

Here's the link, but there's no information for the cutoff for the criteria: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/msmagnet/about/MS%20Magnet%20Field%20Test%20Data%20by%20Sending%20MS.pdf

This link doesn't really state the requirements for placement in MS enriched classes.

It doesn't but I have seen it on the MCPS website despite the many people who say otherwise. It is clearly laid out which data points they use. The only questions are the weighting of the data points and the math and data for determining things like cohort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year, in response to a public records request, MCPS published a spread sheet that showed all the Middle Schools in the pilot area, with the number of kids who qualified under each criteria - Cogat (broken down by section) MAP tests, and PARCC.

Based on the numbers of kids in our home middle school in the enriched classes, if you qualified under any single criteria, you got placed into the enriched class. All bright kids, but there's a big spread in abilities in the enriched classes.

Do you mind posting the spreadsheet/link? What is a qualifier for any single criteria?

Here's the link, but there's no information for the cutoff for the criteria: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/msmagnet/about/MS%20Magnet%20Field%20Test%20Data%20by%20Sending%20MS.pdf

This link doesn't really state the requirements for placement in MS enriched classes.

It doesn't but I have seen it on the MCPS website despite the many people who say otherwise. It is clearly laid out which data points they use. The only questions are the weighting of the data points and the math and data for determining things like cohort.

It does seem kind of arbitrary reading this thread.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know the status of the selection process for the two middle school enriched classes, particularly for the W-feeders like Frost, Cabin John, Hoover?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the status of the selection process for the two middle school enriched classes, particularly for the W-feeders like Frost, Cabin John, Hoover?

The MS is the best source for specifics. I understand Central Office makes recommendations to the MS, but then the MS makes decisions about how kids are grouped, who teaches the classes, what the actual schedule looks like and if they want to add additional kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year, in response to a public records request, MCPS published a spread sheet that showed all the Middle Schools in the pilot area, with the number of kids who qualified under each criteria - Cogat (broken down by section) MAP tests, and PARCC.

Based on the numbers of kids in our home middle school in the enriched classes, if you qualified under any single criteria, you got placed into the enriched class. All bright kids, but there's a big spread in abilities in the enriched classes.

Do you mind posting the spreadsheet/link? What is a qualifier for any single criteria?

Here's the link, but there's no information for the cutoff for the criteria: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/msmagnet/about/MS%20Magnet%20Field%20Test%20Data%20by%20Sending%20MS.pdf

I'm surprised to see Tilden has one of the lower numbers. I thought Tilden is a good school. Does that mean it doesn't have a strong cohort as other schools that have high numbers?

[Anonymous]

This is some of the most interesting data I have seen about the screening process last year. According to this every single middle school in MCPS with the exception of White Oak has enough "highly able" students to create at least one section of an enriched Math and enriched humanities class. This could also imply that nearly every middle school has a "highly able" peer cohort so not sure why some schools (Frost, Hoover, SSIMS, Sligo and Pyle) were at such a disadvantage during the MS magnet selection process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is some of the most interesting data I have seen about the screening process last year. According to this every single middle school in MCPS with the exception of White Oak has enough "highly able" students to create at least one section of an enriched Math and enriched humanities class. This could also imply that nearly every middle school has a "highly able" peer cohort so not sure why some schools (Frost, Hoover, SSIMS, Sligo and Pyle) were at such a disadvantage during the MS magnet selection process.

The disadvantage is the concentration of very high scorers. In the FAQ/info that was released, MCPS made sure that at least 1 kid from each elementary school got into one of the magnets. This means that more Frost kids, for example, were competing for a limited slice of the admittance pie.

[Anonymous]

I think Westland Middle School is the real story of this data. Ugh!!

[Anonymous]

Over 700 kids had qualifying cogat composite scores. That’s what happens when you test thousands of kids. This is a good thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is some of the most interesting data I have seen about the screening process last year. According to this every single middle school in MCPS with the exception of White Oak has enough "highly able" students to create at least one section of an enriched Math and enriched humanities class. This could also imply that nearly every middle school has a "highly able" peer cohort so not sure why some schools (Frost, Hoover, SSIMS, Sligo and Pyle) were at such a disadvantage during the MS magnet selection process.

The disadvantage is the concentration of very high scorers. In the FAQ/info that was released, MCPS made sure that at least 1 kid from each elementary school got into one of the magnets. This means that more Frost kids, for example, were competing for a limited slice of the admittance pie.

Yep, quotas by geo and race.

[Anonymous]

Prob gender too.