clubs sell you on false info...

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Anonymous wrote:Have you asked explicitly about your child? Good coaches move everyone around no matter what but sometimes if you have a coach who is under pressure to win then he or she will play kids who do well in one position in that same position.

Same thing happening in our U11 club with most kids getting moved around but I think two kids (very talented ones at that) never moving. I thought the kids and their parents wanted it that way but maybe not.

Why would two very talented kids not get moved around when everyone else does? How does it help win games ?

Some positions are harder to fill (e.g., goalkeeper, centerback, left back). The kids that excel in these positions are hard to find and may end up not moving around to other positions. Kick and run teams would normally put their "best" players (i.e., fast, physical kids who can finish) up top. So there may be different reasons for not rotating certain players.

It can be frustrating if your kid is a good defender and the coach doesn’t trust other kids to play in these positions.

This is our problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Have you asked explicitly about your child? Good coaches move everyone around no matter what but sometimes if you have a coach who is under pressure to win then he or she will play kids who do well in one position in that same position.

Same thing happening in our U11 club with most kids getting moved around but I think two kids (very talented ones at that) never moving. I thought the kids and their parents wanted it that way but maybe not.

Why would two very talented kids not get moved around when everyone else does? How does it help win games ?

Some positions are harder to fill (e.g., goalkeeper, centerback, left back). The kids that excel in these positions are hard to find and may end up not moving around to other positions. Kick and run teams would normally put their "best" players (i.e., fast, physical kids who can finish) up top. So there may be different reasons for not rotating certain players.

It can be frustrating if your kid is a good defender and the coach doesn’t trust other kids to play in these positions.

This is our problem.

Our club has no goals on the score board (well 1) as of present---so they don't put the best players up front---though the two dads that incessantly coach them from the sidelines think they are Messi and Ronaldo, respectively.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you asked explicitly about your child? Good coaches move everyone around no matter what but sometimes if you have a coach who is under pressure to win then he or she will play kids who do well in one position in that same position.

Same thing happening in our U11 club with most kids getting moved around but I think two kids (very talented ones at that) never moving. I thought the kids and their parents wanted it that way but maybe not.

Why would two very talented kids not get moved around when everyone else does? How does it help win games ?

Some positions are harder to fill (e.g., goalkeeper, centerback, left back). The kids that excel in these positions are hard to find and may end up not moving around to other positions. Kick and run teams would normally put their "best" players (i.e., fast, physical kids who can finish) up top. So there may be different reasons for not rotating certain players.

It can be frustrating if your kid is a good defender and the coach doesn’t trust other kids to play in these positions.

This is our problem.

Our club has no goals on the score board (well 1) as of present---so they don't put the best players up front---though the two dads that incessantly coach them from the sidelines think they are Messi and Ronaldo, respectively.

team, not club.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Have you asked explicitly about your child? Good coaches move everyone around no matter what but sometimes if you have a coach who is under pressure to win then he or she will play kids who do well in one position in that same position.

Same thing happening in our U11 club with most kids getting moved around but I think two kids (very talented ones at that) never moving. I thought the kids and their parents wanted it that way but maybe not.

Why would two very talented kids not get moved around when everyone else does? How does it help win games ?

Some positions are harder to fill (e.g., goalkeeper, centerback, left back). The kids that excel in these positions are hard to find and may end up not moving around to other positions. Kick and run teams would normally put their "best" players (i.e., fast, physical kids who can finish) up top. So there may be different reasons for not rotating certain players.

My kid is put at center back. He never wavers. It's not his best position, but the best on the team in that position. He is excellent in midfield and forward. He should be able to rotate through the positions at 10 years old and not be pegged to only play center back. Futhermore, height most likely will not be on his side post-puberty. Why pigeon hole kids at the early ages? It's only to win, not develop the kid. IT ends up screwing the kid.

At U11, the players should be rotated. If the coach puts winning over development, your kid should talk to the coach about playing different positions and if the coach still plays him in only one position, you can consider switching clubs.

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You also have to take the long view -- it takes more than a game at a position to really learn it. My DS started his career as an outside back for a season, moved to centerback for a season, then was the striker for one season, mid for one season, then the left back for a season, then the rightback/midfielder for a season, and now a defensive midfielder on club team and more of an attacking mid on his high school team. And by season I mean entire year -- not Spring or Fall. Luckily, he embraced wherever he was put even though some positions were admittedly "more fun"-- especially in the younger years

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A 12-0 league game is very difficult to classify as developmental.

Sounds like the TD is really poor at their job. One look at a score like that begs a discussion.

But it's really difficult to recruit stronger players with a so-so record. It takes way more effort to sell a losing program than a strong one.

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Anonymous wrote:You also have to take the long view -- it takes more than a game at a position to really learn it. My DS started his career as an outside back for a season, moved to centerback for a season, then was the striker for one season, mid for one season, then the left back for a season, then the rightback/midfielder for a season, and now a defensive midfielder on club team and more of an attacking mid on his high school team. And by season I mean entire year -- not Spring or Fall. Luckily, he embraced wherever he was put even though some positions were admittedly "more fun"-- especially in the younger years

The long view is a pretty weak argument at u9-u14. You can easily play a couple games at 2 positions over a spring or fall, to gain some good exposure, not some 8 minute end of a half.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you asked explicitly about your child? Good coaches move everyone around no matter what but sometimes if you have a coach who is under pressure to win then he or she will play kids who do well in one position in that same position.

Same thing happening in our U11 club with most kids getting moved around but I think two kids (very talented ones at that) never moving. I thought the kids and their parents wanted it that way but maybe not.

Why would two very talented kids not get moved around when everyone else does? How does it help win games ?

Some positions are harder to fill (e.g., goalkeeper, centerback, left back). The kids that excel in these positions are hard to find and may end up not moving around to other positions. Kick and run teams would normally put their "best" players (i.e., fast, physical kids who can finish) up top. So there may be different reasons for not rotating certain players.

It can be frustrating if your kid is a good defender and the coach doesn’t trust other kids to play in these positions.

This is our problem.

Our club has no goals on the score board (well 1) as of present---so they don't put the best players up front---though the two dads that incessantly coach them from the sidelines think they are Messi and Ronaldo, respectively.

It always shocks me when I see parents coaching from the sidelines at club games. At my daughter's club (we do not live in the DC area), that would NOT be tolerated. When I do see it, I wonder why the parents are paying for a professional coach if they think that they know more.

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It always shocks me when I see parents coaching from the sidelines at club games. At my daughter's club (we do not live in the DC area), that would NOT be tolerated. When I do see it, I wonder why the parents are paying for a professional coach if they think that they know more.

One, I think many of those parents are probably thinking the exact same thing. Why are we paying for this?

Two, perhaps a coach suffering this issue would benefit from having another club professional (other than a parent manager) watch from the spectators sideline and remind the parents to stop.

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It always shocks me when I see parents coaching from the sidelines at club games. At my daughter's club (we do not live in the DC area), that would NOT be tolerated. When I do see it, I wonder why the parents are paying for a professional coach if they think that they know more.

One, I think many of those parents are probably thinking the exact same thing. Why are we paying for this?

Two, perhaps a coach suffering this issue would benefit from having another club professional (other than a parent manager) watch from the spectators sideline and remind the parents to stop.

1. If parents are wondering why they are paying for (what they believe to be) sub-par coaching, then they probably should have done more research before committing to that particular club/coach. Parents also get caught up too much in game results for younger players. At U9/10/11, training is much more important than game results.

2. Parents should realize that they are doing their child a disservice by shouting direction to them on the field. (Hearing parents yell "clear it" or "boot it" when a coach is clearly trying to teach his team to play out of the back is my personal favorite). In my experience, the older and higher level the team is, the quieter the sideline tends to be.

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If your player is exceptional at seeing the field build off of that make him your playmaker.. if your player shows skill in playing GK build off of that. The GK position is almost always never taught . therefore needs many more hours of dedication to learn . What I mean by that is GKs are trained with reaction drills but hardly ever taught to see the game from their position. as most coaches done understand it enough to teach the actual position. I believe this from u10 up.

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Anonymous wrote:15 for 9v9 is way too many players!

Agreed! I was so upset when I found out - clearly a money grab. And they had several people join at the end that did not even try out. Again, my son plays the entire game so am thankful for that.

Gotta be center back. Back line at a minimum

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Anonymous wrote:15 for 9v9 is way too many players!

Agreed! I was so upset when I found out - clearly a money grab. And they had several people join at the end that did not even try out. Again, my son plays the entire game so am thankful for that.

Gotta be center back. Back line at a minimum

Can someone please explain what is meant by the ‘back line at a minimum’ quote?

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defender on the back line

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Anonymous wrote:15 for 9v9 is way too many players!

Yeah. I also think it's obnoxious when a 11v11 team rosters more than 18. What kind of development is it when kids are benched every week?