Nephew in childrens mental hospital

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are nuts. And thats not PTSD.

How the hell is OP nuts? These comments aren't helping anyone

[Anonymous]

“Bad” or lax parenting does not lead to psychosis.

Abuse might.

As she’s just left a bad marriage, her son has PTSD from abuse, and you feel that she smooths him co scantly, do you think perhaps she was abused too?

You’re her sister. Judge less and help more, if it’s in you.

[Anonymous]

Im not judging. Im trying to do whats right for my own kids, too

[Anonymous]

My H has PTSD from childhood.

If your kids are younger I would help find them a place to live asap.

He needs to find a program that used DBT, and he will be in years of therapy.

You have to wonder if he was sexually abused.

If your kids are younger I would not let him live with me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My H has PTSD from childhood.

If your kids are younger I would help find them a place to live asap.

He needs to find a program that used DBT, and he will be in years of therapy.

You have to wonder if he was sexually abused.

If your kids are younger I would not let him live with me.

I wondered about sexual abuse too.
Did your Husband have these episodes of psychosis at all? Is that common with ptsd?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I had the money I'd just let them stay in a rental under my name. Barring that send them to your parents.

But you know your sister best - was she ever the type of child to acknowledge boundaries and does she have the guts to recognize if/when her son is a danger to himself or others?

If she can't do either I'd get the exDH (if you know him well enough to determine he isn't a child predator) involved pronto and ask him what his thoughts are on his child and if necessary - you'll support him in a custody hearing as long as mental health treatment will be involved. If the child needs to be locked up, then he needs to be locked up.

Hard to say. She did push for him to get a mental evaluation. But, as far as her parenting goes, she lets a lot of things go. Perhaps because she knows he's a ticking time bomb? I know that the therapist said to get him involved in Yoga. I am not sure if its a mental issue or more of a behavioral one

If he spent a week in an inpatient hospital b/c of threats of harming himself, your sister would be getting more recommendations other than just yoga. If you're not a troll and your sister truly thinks everything is fine ask to go with her to see the kid's therapist. Seriously they would not have said just yoga.

I swear I am not a troll. I don't know if they don't want to keep him because of her Insurance (State) or not. I asked her what kind of things I needed to know before he came home, she said, " ’ll have a crisis prevention and escalation plan that I can give you , there creating it for me ? with all my expectations and wants etc! But not a lot to Absorb at all " (and that was copied and pasted.
The hospital is 4 hours away, I cant be there.

Your sister sounds like she's deep in denial. Review the crisis prevention plan with her.

Her kid might have ptsd, he might have autism, or bipolar disorder. Generally kids who have had trauma do regular therapy. Your sister may want to get get trained in how to physically restrain him if necessary. Many places that work with kids on the spectrum can train her and you if he's going to be living or visiting a lot.

The local school system can give him an IEP under ED--emotional disability. Your sister needs to know if she doesn't try to get him appropriate care, he will probably end up dead.

[Anonymous]

Your sister sounds like she's deep in denial. Review the crisis prevention plan with her.

Her kid might have ptsd, he might have autism, or bipolar disorder. Generally kids who have had trauma do regular therapy. Your sister may want to get get trained in how to physically restrain him if necessary. Many places that work with kids on the spectrum can train her and you if he's going to be living or visiting a lot.

The local school system can give him an IEP under ED--emotional disability. Your sister needs to know if she doesn't try to get him appropriate care, he will probably end up dead.

Thank you. I do know he's going to be entered into a program here locally, once he returns, that has counseling once a week. Other than that, I am not aware of anything else.
You are correct, she is in huge denial. I know a lot of this is new to her, but she's really closing her eyes on the severity of the issue and really making light of it.
He plays a LOT of video games. I asked her if he was allowed to continue playing them once he got home, she said, "Yes, He can do whatever I tell him he can as long as he is controlled and respectful"
My thought is, what's changed? Two weeks ago he was having a melt down because he was arguing with someone online over a game, how can she say its okay to play now, after all this??

[Anonymous]

PTSD is different from psychosis, or does he have both? Sounds like psychosis which can be brief and in reaction to the abuse possibly. I would hope he is on some kind of medication. Read everything she was given by the hospital. I'd be afraid to have him in your house unless he really is doing much better. Just be clear with your sister that if it happens again, she needs to take action, like get him back to the hospital, take him more often to a therapist, or move out. You shouldn't have to have your whole family's lives disrupted by her kid. Be supportive but protect your own family.

[Anonymous]

If someone is hearing voices it would be schitzophernia not PTSD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If someone is hearing voices it would be schitzophernia not PTSD.

They don't diagnose Schizophrenia in children until 18

[Anonymous]

If your nephew is living with you and your children, I think you have a right to know what the go-forward treatment plan is.

My elementary aged son was in a mental hospital for 2 weeks. After discharge, he spent a week in their partial hospitalization program. Then after success there, he was released to our local team.

For context, in patient was 12 hours of therapy a day, PHP was 6 hours per day, and the local team is 3 hours per week. In addition to the continued therapy my son is receiving, I have a parent meeting once a week. Our other child also meets with a psychologist to talk about her fears, anxiety, concerns, how she is feeling, etc. An issue of this magnitude impacts everyone in the household.

His local team consists of a psychologist and a psychiatrist. They meet weekly to discuss any changes. As things evolve, his teachers at school are also looped in or they reach out to the therapists if they need additional support in the classroom.

Yoga is not going to cut it. A crisis prevention and de-escalation plan are not enough. That is dealing with the issue in the moment. Of course when something happens, that's what needs to be addressed. But the bigger issue is the long term work that needs to be done so that crisis' don't occur and there isn't a need to de-escalate.

I would not be comfortable bringing a child without a solid plan and support team into my home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If someone is hearing voices it would be schitzophernia not PTSD.

They don't diagnose Schizophrenia in children until 18

Yes they do. It’s very rare but it happens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If someone is hearing voices it would be schitzophernia not PTSD.

They don't diagnose Schizophrenia in children until 18

No, but it doesn't mean child cannot have it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If someone is hearing voices it would be schitzophernia not PTSD.

They don't diagnose Schizophrenia in children until 18

Yes they do. It’s very rare but it happens.

Auditory hallucinations are not the same as schizophrenia, though. They can happen outside of that diagnosis.

OP, please be kind. People struggling with psychiatric diseases and abuse go through enough. Being alienated and shamed doesn't help. I get the desire to protect your kids, and you absolutely need to do that, but please try to learn from your nephew's providers what you can and keep an open mind.

[Anonymous]

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Your sister sounds like she's deep in denial. Review the crisis prevention plan with her.

Her kid might have ptsd, he might have autism, or bipolar disorder. Generally kids who have had trauma do regular therapy. Your sister may want to get get trained in how to physically restrain him if necessary. Many places that work with kids on the spectrum can train her and you if he's going to be living or visiting a lot.

The local school system can give him an IEP under ED--emotional disability. Your sister needs to know if she doesn't try to get him appropriate care, he will probably end up dead.

Thank you. I do know he's going to be entered into a program here locally, once he returns, that has counseling once a week. Other than that, I am not aware of anything else.
You are correct, she is in huge denial. I know a lot of this is new to her, but she's really closing her eyes on the severity of the issue and really making light of it.
He plays a LOT of video games. I asked her if he was allowed to continue playing them once he got home, she said, "Yes, He can do whatever I tell him he can as long as he is controlled and respectful"
My thought is, what's changed? Two weeks ago he was having a melt down because he was arguing with someone online over a game, how can she say its okay to play now, after all this??


Every child needs limits on screen time. She sounds like she doesn't know how to parent a child with suchbsevere problems. Who can blame her b/c this is uncharted territory for most people. Look to nami:
https://www.nami.org/Blogs/NAMI-Blog/October-2018/Raising-Children-with-Mental-Illness

Op, you need to be frank with her. There needs to be screen time limits, he needs time for homework, chores, downtime. The shooter at the madden competition was obsessed with video games too. His mom even called the police after he threw a fit when she took away the controls. Please reassure your sister that she didn't cause her child's problems but she can't abicate parenting.