After YuYing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP if you want serious responses I would suggest taking this to the Yu Ying parent list serve or to individual parents/families at YY. The answers you are going to get here are beyond predictable and are unlikely to be helpful.

OP here... thanks. That is a better idea

Better idea, but will you get truthful answers from boosters?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yu Ying posters are taking too many pills. Delusion is a hell of a drug. How can DCI be language fluent when it just opened?

How can DCI be "language fluent" when so many of the kids coming out of the feeders can barely speak the languages taught?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP if you want serious responses I would suggest taking this to the Yu Ying parent list serve or to individual parents/families at YY. The answers you are going to get here are beyond predictable and are unlikely to be helpful.

OP here... thanks. That is a better idea

Better idea, but will you get truthful answers from boosters?

What you get from the boosters is a fantasy version of what YY and DCI should be. Try talking to upper grades parents who aren't planning to return for 3rd, 4th of 5th grade. Ask them why. Talk to parents who won't be making the jump to DCI. Ask them why. Talk to native speakers who bailed or didn't bother even if they got spots. Ask them why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP if you want serious responses I would suggest taking this to the Yu Ying parent list serve or to individual parents/families at YY. The answers you are going to get here are beyond predictable and are unlikely to be helpful.

OP here... thanks. That is a better idea

Better idea, but will you get truthful answers from boosters?

And you think anonymous DCUM posters, many with a clear axe to grind against Yu Ying, are going to be more accurate?

Both can have their biases, but you have a better ability to judge them when you know the people involved. Plus, the list serve and people in real life don't all give the unicorn and rainbow version that PP describe. Many are willing to talk about the pros and cons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP if you want serious responses I would suggest taking this to the Yu Ying parent list serve or to individual parents/families at YY. The answers you are going to get here are beyond predictable and are unlikely to be helpful.

OP here... thanks. That is a better idea

Better idea, but will you get truthful answers from boosters?

And you think anonymous DCUM posters, many with a clear axe to grind against Yu Ying, are going to be more accurate?

Both can have their biases, but you have a better ability to judge them when you know the people involved. Plus, the list serve and people in real life don't all give the unicorn and rainbow version that PP describe. Many are willing to talk about the pros and cons.

I’ve found this to be true in my experience as well. Fellow YY parents have always been pretty honest about the school and DCI - at least with me. Don’t try to get advice here, OP.

[Anonymous]

NP. Parents don't always have their heads around the pros/cons. We thought our kid's Mandarin was good (after 4th) because YY had always told us that he was strong in Chinese. We don't speak Chinese. The illusion held up until we sent him to a Concordia sleepaway Mandarincamp over the summer. He struggled there, with same-age classmates coming out of stronger immersion programs and from homes where some Chinese is spoken (mostly on the West Coast, or in Canada). We have no axe to grind with YY. The reality is that the program's immersion is immersion light. OP may not mind, but best to know!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. Parents don't always have their heads around the pros/cons. We thought our kid's Mandarin was good (after 4th) because YY had always told us that he was strong in Chinese. We don't speak Chinese. The illusion held up until we sent him to a Concordia sleepaway Mandarincamp over the summer. He struggled there, with same-age classmates coming out of stronger immersion programs and from homes where some Chinese is spoken (mostly on the West Coast, or in Canada). We have no axe to grind with YY. The reality is that the program's immersion is immersion light. OP may not mind, but best to know!

Off topic a bit, but how did you find Concordia's camp?

[Anonymous]

You mean find it as in find out about it, or find it as in rate the experience?

http://www.concordialanguagevillages.org/

Concordia camps aren't cheap, and aren't for the casual immersion family. The experience was a real challenge for our kid, very hard work, but a lot of fun too. The language village is a well-run place, totally organized.

We benefited as a family from the wake-up call of interacting with kidsin dual-immersion programs and native speakers of dialects (from NYC, Chicago, Cal, Toronto etc.) who are learning Mandarin. Most of the other campers in my child's group could speak a lot better than he could, at least initially. Not necessarily understand or read/write a lot better, but speak, definitely. The cultural immersion component has a different ring to it than YY, with a big cohort of kids from Chinese immigrant families.

Concordia isn't super diverse (few AA campers). Kid really wants to go back next summer. We're thinking seriously of moving to MoCo for MS (Herbert Hoover partial CHinese immersion in Potomac). Alsoapplying to DC privates with strong MS Chinese programs, Sidwell etc.

[Anonymous]

Always good to take Mandarin out of YY and up the kids' game.

[Anonymous]

There's a Chinese immersion private school opening in NW DC. It's called the Whittle School (which is a name. There's plenty of reason to think it won't succeed - planning for a huge amount of students considering that the area already has many private schools and the tuition is in line with the most expensive established schools. But something to keep an eye on. It'll be PK3-12 and have a sister school in China.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a Chinese immersion private school opening in NW DC. It's called the Whittle School (which is a name. There's plenty of reason to think it won't succeed - planning for a huge amount of students considering that the area already has many private schools and the tuition is in line with the most expensive established schools. But something to keep an eye on. It'll be PK3-12 and have a sister school in China.

*(which is a name I can't take seriously)

[Anonymous]

Oh sure, just 40K a year for day students. If we could afford that, we'd be at WIS or Sidwell for Chinese, not YY (like loads of DCPCS families!!).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/private-school-with-global-ambition-to-open-in-dc-and-china-in-2019/2018/02/07/c101aaa2-0b4b-11e8-95a5-c396801049ef_story.html?utm_term=.e729302fd94e

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP if you want serious responses I would suggest taking this to the Yu Ying parent list serve or to individual parents/families at YY. The answers you are going to get here are beyond predictable and are unlikely to be helpful.

OP here... thanks. That is a better idea

Better idea, but will you get truthful answers from boosters?

What you get from the boosters is a fantasy version of what YY and DCI should be. Try talking to upper grades parents who aren't planning to return for 3rd, 4th of 5th grade. Ask them why. Talk to parents who won't be making the jump to DCI. Ask them why. Talk to native speakers who bailed or didn't bother even if they got spots. Ask them why.

If you know why, can you just say it?

[Anonymous]

NP. It's all been said time and time again. Point out any of YY's flaws and boosters (who invariably don't speak Chinese) call you a troll.

Much more useful to talk to parents who vote with their feet.

[Anonymous]

Don't worry, OP. After YuYing the kids who were forced to study Mandarin all those years, with no real family connection to Chinese or China, will mostly study...Spanish.

You heard it here first.