NYU Granting Free Tuition To All Med Students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Great idea. I heard it on the radio today too.

It got me to thinking about general practitioners in general. Does it make sense to phase them out in favor of Nurse Practitioners? My GP does nothing special - nothing a good Nurser Practitioner couldn't do. If I have more serious problems, I know to go to a specialist.

Good luck to you then. I've seen a lot of NPs do ridiculous stuff because all their experience was spent taking orders. So when they see something, its s knee jerk reaction based on the orders they remember taking from physicians. There is little thought as to why the orders were being given. So, if they see 3 things, its a knee jerk reaction with 3 orders and they have no idea that the 3 orders are contradicting each other. They have no idea if and when an order is not appropriate in a situation. Ive seen it send quite a few people to the ER or worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they are so great, why not extend it to all students in all study programs.

They can do what they want because they are billionaires and you aren't.

If you want to do something as great as they are doing, then let's see your broke ass go start a charitable organization that helps society.

Go crawl back under your rock, and take your meds today!

[Anonymous]

All State Schools in NY State are tuition free for families making under 130K also.

[Anonymous]

Now you just have to get into NYU -- which is ranked #3 on the med school rankings. But no fear, Columbia does something similar (though not for everyone - but if you qualify for ANY financial aid, it is all grants, no loans) as does Cleveland Clinic which has a med school class of a whopping 32 students.

This awesome for the very very small % of people who can possibly get into these schools. Somehow I don't see this expanding to "regular" schools simply bc NYU, Columbia etc. are the types which carry hundreds of millions in endowments to be able to fund such things in perpetuity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great idea. I heard it on the radio today too.

It got me to thinking about general practitioners in general. Does it make sense to phase them out in favor of Nurse Practitioners? My GP does nothing special - nothing a good Nurser Practitioner couldn't do. If I have more serious problems, I know to go to a specialist.

Good luck to you then. I've seen a lot of NPs do ridiculous stuff because all their experience was spent taking orders. So when they see something, its s knee jerk reaction based on the orders they remember taking from physicians. There is little thought as to why the orders were being given. So, if they see 3 things, its a knee jerk reaction with 3 orders and they have no idea that the 3 orders are contradicting each other. They have no idea if and when an order is not appropriate in a situation. Ive seen it send quite a few people to the ER or worse.

If you prefer to see a doctor rather than a NP that's your choice. But you don't need to disparage NPs with this anecdotal information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is great - should see more med students going into needed fields without the threat of $300K over their heads upon graduating.

"Effective immediately, NYU will grant free tuition to all current and future medical school students. Tuition is currently about $55,000 per year." https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/16/nyregion/nyu-free-tuition-medical-school.html

This is indeed great...and thanks to a major GOP donor (Langone).

Pls remember to say thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great idea. I heard it on the radio today too.

It got me to thinking about general practitioners in general. Does it make sense to phase them out in favor of Nurse Practitioners? My GP does nothing special - nothing a good Nurser Practitioner couldn't do. If I have more serious problems, I know to go to a specialist.

Good luck to you then. I've seen a lot of NPs do ridiculous stuff because all their experience was spent taking orders. So when they see something, its s knee jerk reaction based on the orders they remember taking from physicians. There is little thought as to why the orders were being given. So, if they see 3 things, its a knee jerk reaction with 3 orders and they have no idea that the 3 orders are contradicting each other. They have no idea if and when an order is not appropriate in a situation. Ive seen it send quite a few people to the ER or worse.

If you prefer to see a doctor rather than a NP that's your choice. But you don't need to disparage NPs with this anecdotal information.

Not anecdotal. Based on lots and lots of experience with many NPs over the course of a decade and a half. But if you want to see an NP as your PCP, good luck to you. Sooner or later, you will regret it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Great idea. I heard it on the radio today too.

It got me to thinking about general practitioners in general. Does it make sense to phase them out in favor of Nurse Practitioners? My GP does nothing special - nothing a good Nurser Practitioner couldn't do. If I have more serious problems, I know to go to a specialist.

I always decline the doctor and ask for either a NP or a PA. I don't trust MDs anymore. At all. I've always received much better care from NPs. I didn't even see doctors when I was pregnant. All my kids were delivered by nurse midwives. I think MDs should stick to research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they are so great, why not extend it to all students in all study programs.

New physicians today are routinely graduating with $300,000 in med school debt, making it difficult for them to enter less lucrative areas of medicine like primary care or research at universities or places like the NIH. NYU is known as a research med school, so the donation probably would most benefit the latter.

NYU med students still will have to pay the cost of living in NYC for four years, so there would still be debt to pay for funding that.

I wish they had done it targeted at students who chose less lucrative specialties (ie family medicine, pediatrics rather than plastic surgery or anesthesiology, dermatology.). But either way, I bet applications to NYU will be way up next year!

I completely agree. Like debt forebeafance the full forgiveness after 8 years in a less lucrative field.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great idea. I heard it on the radio today too.

It got me to thinking about general practitioners in general. Does it make sense to phase them out in favor of Nurse Practitioners? My GP does nothing special - nothing a good Nurser Practitioner couldn't do. If I have more serious problems, I know to go to a specialist.

I always decline the doctor and ask for either a NP or a PA. I don't trust MDs anymore. At all. I've always received much better care from NPs. I didn't even see doctors when I was pregnant. All my kids were delivered by nurse midwives. I think MDs should stick to research.

Good luck, and pls don't whine when you need an MD and don't get one!

Signed,

Someone who appreciates NPs very much, and certainly is not a doctor, yet sees the absurdity in saying something like "MDs should stick to research" -- you're clueless

[Anonymous]

Ha! My brother went there . Nice that it is now tuition free! It is very difficult to get in and all the students are cream of the crop for med students so it is terrific that they don’t have to choose a specialty based on Income.