SOL in MS fcps

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Anonymous wrote:So is the general consensus here that I do not need to have my son retake his Math 8 SOL? I honestly don't see the point.

Your son doesn't need to retake it.

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Apparently it doesn't count. You need to pass it but otherwise, it is only used to judge how well the teacher is doing.


I can assure you kids don't need to pass their SOLs in MS.

This is an ignorant remark, seeing that you don't know what course it is. Students do need to pass certain MS SOLs in math and geography in order to get an HS diploma.

LOL! You know NOT of what you speak! Please note that on the FCPS website, there is absolutely no requirement to pass MS SOLs in math and geography. Geography is not even offered in MS. In 7th grade, it's History/Social Studies, in 8th grade, it's Civics.

Some students actually don't even have to pass any HS SOLs to graduate with a standard diploma. Check out the FCPS site for graduation requirements, "students may utilize substitute tests, certifications, or the appeal process to earn verified credits". Verified credits are those "earned when a student passes a course and the associated end-of-course SOL test. " So, really, you can graduate HS in FCPS without ever having passed on SOL. But, if students do pass an SOL, it doesn't have to be the Geography SOL. One of the other History/Social Science SOLs count.

If you still want to insist that 'students do need to pass certain MS SOLs in math and geography in order to get an [sic] HS diploma', please cite your source. Otherwise, we'll remain convinced you're an ignorant twit.

https://www.fcps.edu/academics/graduation-requirements-and-course-planning/graduation-requirements-first-time-ninth

DP. I think the pp was referring to kids taking Algebra and Geometry in MS. While they don't NEED to pass the SOLs in middle school, I think it makes sense to pass those SOLs and get rid of the HS graduation verified credit requirements since Algebra 2 is harder (for many kids) than those two classes. For kids starting HS this fall, there is only one verified math credit required for and advanced diploma, so passing one is sufficient. While your bolded language is technically correct, it doesn't provide a comprehensive picture of why it might make sense to give more weight to some SOLs in MS. I don't know where pp got her information about geography.

[Anonymous]

DP. I think the pp was referring to kids taking Algebra and Geometry in MS. While they don't NEED to pass the SOLs in middle school, I think it makes sense to pass those SOLs and get rid of the HS graduation verified credit requirements since Algebra 2 is harder (for many kids) than those two classes. For kids starting HS this fall, there is only one verified math credit required for and advanced diploma, so passing one is sufficient. While your bolded language is technically correct, it doesn't provide a comprehensive picture of why it might make sense to give more weight to some SOLs in MS. I don't know where pp got her information about geography.

You're being charitable to the ignorant twit. Of course, it makes sense for ANY student taking a class for a verified credit to pass the SOL for that class WHENEVER they take that class. But, that's not what the ignorant twit asserted repeatedly. She insists that students must pass MS math and geography SOLs. Algebra and Geometry are NOT MS math classes. They are HS math classes that some math advanced students take in MS. Geography isn't even offered in MS, nor do students have to pass a Geography SOL to graduate. There are a number of Social Studies courses that fulfill the graduation requirements.

https://insys.fcps.edu/CourseCatOnline/#/reportPanel/1041/13/0/0/0/1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The student should want to look good to the teacher

Why? It's the end of the year, and in our case, the teacher has been anything but helpful. Who cares what she thinks at this point?

Your kid wants to well on the SOL because it affects your Great Schools ranking which almost always affect housing values in this area.

It is his contribution to the family finances.

[Anonymous]

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DP. I think the pp was referring to kids taking Algebra and Geometry in MS. While they don't NEED to pass the SOLs in middle school, I think it makes sense to pass those SOLs and get rid of the HS graduation verified credit requirements since Algebra 2 is harder (for many kids) than those two classes. For kids starting HS this fall, there is only one verified math credit required for and advanced diploma, so passing one is sufficient. While your bolded language is technically correct, it doesn't provide a comprehensive picture of why it might make sense to give more weight to some SOLs in MS. I don't know where pp got her information about geography.

You're being charitable to the ignorant twit. Of course, it makes sense for ANY student taking a class for a verified credit to pass the SOL for that class WHENEVER they take that class. But, that's not what the ignorant twit asserted repeatedly. She insists that students must pass MS math and geography SOLs. Algebra and Geometry are NOT MS math classes. They are HS math classes that some math advanced students take in MS. Geography isn't even offered in MS, nor do students have to pass a Geography SOL to graduate. There are a number of Social Studies courses that fulfill the graduation requirements.

https://insys.fcps.edu/CourseCatOnline/#/reportPanel/1041/13/0/0/0/1

You are very rude.

Best to quit while you can.

Just because dcum appears anonymous does not mean it actually is.

Ask your kids.

[Anonymous]

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DP. I think the pp was referring to kids taking Algebra and Geometry in MS. While they don't NEED to pass the SOLs in middle school, I think it makes sense to pass those SOLs and get rid of the HS graduation verified credit requirements since Algebra 2 is harder (for many kids) than those two classes. For kids starting HS this fall, there is only one verified math credit required for and advanced diploma, so passing one is sufficient. While your bolded language is technically correct, it doesn't provide a comprehensive picture of why it might make sense to give more weight to some SOLs in MS. I don't know where pp got her information about geography.

You're being charitable to the ignorant twit. Of course, it makes sense for ANY student taking a class for a verified credit to pass the SOL for that class WHENEVER they take that class. But, that's not what the ignorant twit asserted repeatedly. She insists that students must pass MS math and geography SOLs. Algebra and Geometry are NOT MS math classes. They are HS math classes that some math advanced students take in MS. Geography isn't even offered in MS, nor do students have to pass a Geography SOL to graduate. There are a number of Social Studies courses that fulfill the graduation requirements.

https://insys.fcps.edu/CourseCatOnline/#/reportPanel/1041/13/0/0/0/1

This is your quote:

I assure you kids don't need to pass their SOLs in MS.

Why would you say that without clarifying that it makes sense for kids who take high school credit math classes? It's pretty common for kids in FCPS to take Algebra and/or Geometry in MS. The corresponding SOLs are given in MS for those who take those classes in MS. The pp was responding to your blanket dismissal of all SOLs taken in Middle School.

[Anonymous]

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DP. I think the pp was referring to kids taking Algebra and Geometry in MS. While they don't NEED to pass the SOLs in middle school, I think it makes sense to pass those SOLs and get rid of the HS graduation verified credit requirements since Algebra 2 is harder (for many kids) than those two classes. For kids starting HS this fall, there is only one verified math credit required for and advanced diploma, so passing one is sufficient. While your bolded language is technically correct, it doesn't provide a comprehensive picture of why it might make sense to give more weight to some SOLs in MS. I don't know where pp got her information about geography.

You're being charitable to the ignorant twit. Of course, it makes sense for ANY student taking a class for a verified credit to pass the SOL for that class WHENEVER they take that class. But, that's not what the ignorant twit asserted repeatedly. She insists that students must pass MS math and geography SOLs. Algebra and Geometry are NOT MS math classes. They are HS math classes that some math advanced students take in MS. Geography isn't even offered in MS, nor do students have to pass a Geography SOL to graduate. There are a number of Social Studies courses that fulfill the graduation requirements.

https://insys.fcps.edu/CourseCatOnline/#/reportPanel/1041/13/0/0/0/1

This is your quote:

I assure you kids don't need to pass their SOLs in MS.

Why would you say that without clarifying that it makes sense for kids who take high school credit math classes? It's pretty common for kids in FCPS to take Algebra and/or Geometry in MS. The corresponding SOLs are given in MS for those who take those classes in MS. The pp was responding to your blanket dismissal of all SOLs taken in Middle School.

I did not 'clarify' because there was no need to. The OP asked if MS SOL scores counted toward grades in MS or HS. My response which you quoted above was in response to this statement:

"Apparently it doesn't count. You need to pass it but otherwise, it is only used to judge how well the teacher is doing."

My answer is still correct, even if the class is HS level Algebra/Geometry. MS students do NOT need to pass any SOLs - period. They can fail all their SOLs and it will not have any impact on their grades, their promotion to the next grade or any of the courses they wish to take in HS.

If you want to have a discussion on the requirements for high school graduation, strategize what courses to take and what to do if your kid struggles to pass an SOL, we can have that after you've read and understood the graduation requirements. But, again, that wasn't the question that was asked nor does that have any relevance to the statement I first responded to.

You're just peeved because your ignorance has been called out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The student should want to look good to the teacher

Why? It's the end of the year, and in our case, the teacher has been anything but helpful. Who cares what she thinks at this point?

Your kid wants to well on the SOL because it affects your Great Schools ranking which almost always affect housing values in this area.

It is his contribution to the family finances.

Thanks, we'll skip the retake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So is the general consensus here that I do not need to have my son retake his Math 8 SOL? I honestly don't see the point.

Your son doesn't need to retake it.

Thank you.