Kendrick Lamar - help me understand this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Non-black people shouldn't use the N- word.

Kendrick Lamar was also being a dick. That song uses the N-word 20+ times. He shouldn't have put the girl in that position.

Yup. Both of these things can be true at the same time. She is just a teenager.

exactly. But I do think it was a publicity stunt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Non-black people shouldn't use the N- word.

Kendrick Lamar was also being a dick. That song uses the N-word 20+ times. He shouldn't have put the girl in that position.

What about half black people? Half black that look white? 1/4 Black? Do we need to supply DNA results everytime we want to use it?

[Anonymous]

No one should use the n word. How 'bout dat?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Non-black people shouldn't use the N- word.

Kendrick Lamar was also being a dick. That song uses the N-word 20+ times. He shouldn't have put the girl in that position.

What about half black people? Half black that look white? 1/4 Black? Do we need to supply DNA results everytime we want to use it?

The N-word didn't just apply to people who were solely or mostly of African descent. It applied to anybody with any sort of identifiable African ancestry including those who were white passing. So yes, in the American context, people are 1/2 or 1/4 black or white passing are still black.

[Anonymous]

I just read the People article about this incident. It didn’t sound like he reacted that badly? He stopped the song, told the girl she shouldn’t say the word, she agreed, and then did the song again omitting the word. What’s the big deal? It’s not like he screamed at her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Non-black people shouldn't use the N- word.

Kendrick Lamar was also being a dick. That song uses the N-word 20+ times. He shouldn't have put the girl in that position.

Black people shouldn’t be using it either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just read the People article about this incident. It didn’t sound like he reacted that badly? He stopped the song, told the girl she shouldn’t say the word, she agreed, and then did the song again omitting the word. What’s the big deal? It’s not like he screamed at her.

Why on Earth did he write and perform a song that some of his fans should not sing along to? What a dingbat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would he invite a white fan onstage to rap with him and then ridicule her and encourage the crowd to do so because his lyrics contain the N word?
These are his words.
He wrote them, he invited her to sing them. Was this an intentional publicity stunt?
When will the use of this word be allowed to end?

I didn't see the video but I saw a really great explanation for why white people shouldn't use the n-word. If I can find it I'll post. To be honest it smacks of entitlement that white people think they should be able to use that particular word just because it's in the lyrics to songs.

I don't call someone else's spouse, "honey" or "sweetie" or "baby" - it's a similar thing with the n-word. I don't understand why white people want to say it so badly. It's amusing honestly.

Oh spare me. If honey or sweetie or baby is in a song you’re singing along to, you and I both know you sing the word. Kendrick should have NEVER pulled a white girl onstage for this song if her singing HIS lyrics would piss me him.
Kendrick is a tool.

But those words aren't fraught the same way as the n-word and haven't been primarily used by whites as a tool of maintaining supremacy.

I think the PP above was referring to this explanation by Ice Cube to Bill Maher about why white people shouldn't use it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnwiYdFaRfk

The word is not fraught for the black people that choose to use it. If you understand how people are using it, it is very similar to the use of "sweetie" "honey" etc. Those words are only used with people who are familiar with each other. When a black person uses the word, it does not have the same meaning. I don't understand why white people can't get this. I am AA by the way and I don't choose to use the word, but understand the circumstances why/when black people do.

[Anonymous]

TI respectfully thinks that Kendrick was right and the fan was wrong.

https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/ti-gives-his-take-on-kendrick-lamar-fan-rapping-n-word-on-stage-news.50821.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Non-black people shouldn't use the N- word.

Kendrick Lamar was also being a dick. That song uses the N-word 20+ times. He shouldn't have put the girl in that position.

Black people shouldn’t be using it either.

I agree. It's degrading.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would he invite a white fan onstage to rap with him and then ridicule her and encourage the crowd to do so because his lyrics contain the N word?
These are his words.
He wrote them, he invited her to sing them. Was this an intentional publicity stunt?
When will the use of this word be allowed to end?

I didn't see the video but I saw a really great explanation for why white people shouldn't use the n-word. If I can find it I'll post. To be honest it smacks of entitlement that white people think they should be able to use that particular word just because it's in the lyrics to songs.

I don't call someone else's spouse, "honey" or "sweetie" or "baby" - it's a similar thing with the n-word. I don't understand why white people want to say it so badly. It's amusing honestly.

Oh spare me. If honey or sweetie or baby is in a song you’re singing along to, you and I both know you sing the word. Kendrick should have NEVER pulled a white girl onstage for this song if her singing HIS lyrics would piss me him.
Kendrick is a tool.

But those words aren't fraught the same way as the n-word and haven't been primarily used by whites as a tool of maintaining supremacy.

I think the PP above was referring to this explanation by Ice Cube to Bill Maher about why white people shouldn't use it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnwiYdFaRfk

The word is not fraught for the black people that choose to use it. If you understand how people are using it, it is very similar to the use of "sweetie" "honey" etc. Those words are only used with people who are familiar with each other. When a black person uses the word, it does not have the same meaning. I don't understand why white people can't get this. I am AA by the way and I don't choose to use the word, but understand the circumstances why/when black people do.

Whoosh. Did this go over your head?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Non-black people shouldn't use the N- word.

Kendrick Lamar was also being a dick. That song uses the N-word 20+ times. He shouldn't have put the girl in that position.

I agree with this. But parents, we need to be teaching our non-black kids this now. They should never use the N word, ever. My son has the Black Panther soundtrack, and he complains that he cannot sing along because every other word is the N word, and it's true. If there's a clean version of it out there somewhere, it must be an instrumental. But my kid knows NOT to say that word. If he had been up on stage, he would not have made that mistake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Non-black people shouldn't use the N- word.

Kendrick Lamar was also being a dick. That song uses the N-word 20+ times. He shouldn't have put the girl in that position.

I agree with this. But parents, we need to be teaching our non-black kids this now. They should never use the N word, ever. My son has the Black Panther soundtrack, and he complains that he cannot sing along because every other word is the N word, and it's true. If there's a clean version of it out there somewhere, it must be an instrumental. But my kid knows NOT to say that word. If he had been up on stage, he would not have made that mistake.

So much for honoring the artistic integrity of the song lyrics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Non-black people shouldn't use the N- word.

Kendrick Lamar was also being a dick. That song uses the N-word 20+ times. He shouldn't have put the girl in that position.

I agree with this. But parents, we need to be teaching our non-black kids this now. They should never use the N word, ever. My son has the Black Panther soundtrack, and he complains that he cannot sing along because every other word is the N word, and it's true. If there's a clean version of it out there somewhere, it must be an instrumental. But my kid knows NOT to say that word. If he had been up on stage, he would not have made that mistake.

So much for honoring the artistic integrity of the song lyrics.

You may not think so, but I think ensuring that you don't perpetuate racism is far more important than that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Non-black people shouldn't use the N- word.

Kendrick Lamar was also being a dick. That song uses the N-word 20+ times. He shouldn't have put the girl in that position.

I agree with this. But parents, we need to be teaching our non-black kids this now. They should never use the N word, ever. My son has the Black Panther soundtrack, and he complains that he cannot sing along because every other word is the N word, and it's true. If there's a clean version of it out there somewhere, it must be an instrumental. But my kid knows NOT to say that word. If he had been up on stage, he would not have made that mistake.

So much for honoring the artistic integrity of the song lyrics.

You may not think so, but I think ensuring that you don't perpetuate racism is far more important than that.

Curiously, Kendrick seems to agree with you. He doesn't seem to care much about his artistic integrity. Or his fans.