How much heads up is reasonable for daycare to change their opening hours?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would be furious and also leave bad feedback on various websites.


I am very upset and a bit hurt by her lack of caring, but I don't think I have the heart to do that. I will give her feedback to her directly and will delete my previous raving reviews but I don't want to cause her hardship. Feel conflicted about this.


You have to decide what you want to do. She's completely screwed you, as your chance of finding something last minute is slim.

You can bend over and take it, or you can try to raise enough of a ruckess that she may change back for long enough for you to figure something out. That ruckus could be negative comments, a threat to sue, etc.

I am not necessarily advocating the aggressive approach and it has downsides (and seems to not be your style), but that is an option if you actually want to try to get her to be more reasonable.


Oh there is no way he is going there anymore more. I could threaten to sue but then what my daugther is being watched by a person who is angry at me? Hell no. I have found some potential options so I won't be taking her there any longer. What I meant is I felt bad about leaving her a bad review but that's just me being too nice. I am pretty pissed off right now, I won't maintain the friendship or contact or refer anyone else to her but I don't want to become the aggressor either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The short notice is a problem, she should have given you several weeks, but it sounds like she has been in a situation where she's starting work 90 minutes early every day to accommodate you, while you're paying part time rates. If you leave, then she can put a full time kid in that slot, and have more money and 7.5 hours of her life back. Ask yourself honestly, if someone came to you and offered you a new job with 7.5 less hours and more money, and it came with a positive change for your own child, how many weeks notice would you have felt obligated to give her? I think she had the same obligation to you.



If the daycare scheduled time is 7-6 but at some point the majority of parents start later, is it fair to say that she is opening early to accommodate OP, or that the one person signed up for the advertised time and now the rules are being changed?

As far as the question you ask OP. If OP got a better job and she had to leave her daycare, it would affect daycare's profit but it wouldn't stop the daycare from being able to work... the contract probably stipulates an advanced notice or OP would have to pay anyways. OP mentions she gave her 5 months notice, so I think we know the answer to your question.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would be furious and also leave bad feedback on various websites.


I am very upset and a bit hurt by her lack of caring, but I don't think I have the heart to do that. I will give her feedback to her directly and will delete my previous raving reviews but I don't want to cause her hardship. Feel conflicted about this.


You have to decide what you want to do. She's completely screwed you, as your chance of finding something last minute is slim.

You can bend over and take it, or you can try to raise enough of a ruckess that she may change back for long enough for you to figure something out. That ruckus could be negative comments, a threat to sue, etc.

I am not necessarily advocating the aggressive approach and it has downsides (and seems to not be your style), but that is an option if you actually want to try to get her to be more reasonable.


Oh there is no way he is going there anymore more. I could threaten to sue but then what my daugther is being watched by a person who is angry at me? Hell no. I have found some potential options so I won't be taking her there any longer. What I meant is I felt bad about leaving her a bad review but that's just me being too nice. I am pretty pissed off right now, I won't maintain the friendship or contact or refer anyone else to her but I don't want to become the aggressor either.

I think you're reasonable. She definitely should have given you more notice of such a drastic change, but that doesn't mean that you need to retaliate. I might post an honest review--you were happy with the care given your child, but the provider changed the operating hours by 90 minutes, knowing it would cause you problems, with only a week's notice, forcing you to find alternative care.
Anonymous
Dropped Her today and deleted my positive review. Now to find a replacement. Thanks all!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Have her bring your daughter with them when she drops off her son. I agree it's not enough notice.


This is what I was going to suggest. Give her an extra carseat if she needs one, and I"m sure she already has a double stroller.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have her bring your daughter with them when she drops off her son. I agree it's not enough notice.


This.


I suggested this and her reply was that it was too hard to take both kids to drop of Her son. It's lame but she often finds things hard... Like helping with potty training
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Dropped Her today and deleted my positive review. Now to find a replacement. Thanks all!


Where do you live? I hope you haven't underestimated the difficulty of finding another option.
Anonymous
This is why I wanted center daycare. Many of my friends in in-home daycares have stories like this. Provider vacation with two days notice, hour changes, etc. At centers this is their problem, not yours.

You owe her nothing, and if you’re ever in a situation like this again, don’t tell the provider about your plans several months out. She knew you were leaving anyway so she didn’t want to bother with the hours just for you. If the notice period is two weeks, you tell two weeks out. Sorry, OP.
Anonymous
OP - you made the right call by pulling your child. I think she was trying to get rid of you anyway because she has other parents willing to pay full time rates with later hours.

I had something similar happen to me a few years ago. My daughter was part time in an in home daycare and I was given 2 1/2 weeks notice by the provider that she was cutting back on the number of children because her assistant was going back to her home country. We went to another child's birthday party the following week and I discovered she was flat out lying to me. There was a new baby sibling about to start, but a child who she thought was leaving for preschool decided to stay another year at the last minute, and she would have been out of ratio with the one extra child. So of course, she decided to kick out the part time child who had no stake in the game. If there were online reviews for her, I would have TRASHED the hell out of her.

Plus, if she lied to me about that, I don't even want to know what else she lied to me about in the year that my child was there.

Good luck!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have her bring your daughter with them when she drops off her son. I agree it's not enough notice.


This is what I was going to suggest. Give her an extra carseat if she needs one, and I"m sure she already has a double stroller.



Does she normally drive with daycare children? Would additional car insurance be needed to transport?
Anonymous
She could have easily given such little notice to ensure you did not leave early. The provider must have known much, much earlier that she was enrolling her child in a preschool with those hours and would want to change her operational hours accordingly. Rather than provide notice immediately upon making that decision, it seems to me like she waited until the last minute to ensure OP remained as long as possible. Not only is that unprofessional, it takes advantage of the efforts you've made OP to include her in a get-together on the weekend to give her adult time. I would be very angry.

Everyone's approach is different, but I would write her an email after the last day explaining that this action was unacceptable and no way to run a business. The timeline does not add up and indicates it was purposeful.
Anonymous
The provider was running a business and made a business decision. She didn't like her working hours and she wanted a change.

I know it's hard to see it that way because from your perspective she was a friend.

You only need care PT and you were able to not have care and be ok so you aren't in a dire situation.

Things like is can happen in home daycare.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dropped Her today and deleted my positive review. Now to find a replacement. Thanks all!


Where do you live? I hope you haven't underestimated the difficulty of finding another option.


She dropped herself. She can't watch her when I need it for work and gave me 2 days notice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The provider was running a business and made a business decision. She didn't like her working hours and she wanted a change.

I know it's hard to see it that way because from your perspective she was a friend.

You only need care PT and you were able to not have care and be ok so you aren't in a dire situation.

Things like is can happen in home daycare.


She is free to make business decisions but giving 2 days notice when her contract asks me for 2 weeks is unprofessional. Even if I wasn't friendly with her, it's no way to run a business.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is why I wanted center daycare. Many of my friends in in-home daycares have stories like this. Provider vacation with two days notice, hour changes, etc. At centers this is their problem, not yours.

You owe her nothing, and if you’re ever in a situation like this again, don’t tell the provider about your plans several months out. She knew you were leaving anyway so she didn’t want to bother with the hours just for you. If the notice period is two weeks, you tell two weeks out. Sorry, OP.


NP and my DDs in home daycare provider would never do anything like this. The owner is incredibly professional and values her reputation very highly, she wouldn’t endanger the reputation she spent 20 years building on such a bush league move.

OP I hope you find another provider quickly. A change in schedule like that would absolutely screw me over, I would be livid to have it treated so cavalierly.
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