Strange? I personally know of several kids rejected from every Ivy, yet admitted to UChicago

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Anonymous wrote:i think it's strange that you know that many kids who applied to every Ivy, and UChicago. Usually kids have a better sense of what they're looking for and put together a more cohesive list.

It's called "shotgunning". Top kids apply to the entire top 15.

No, most do not. Status-obsessed kids with no hooks may do this, but lots of kids with great stats are more selective and/or are “one and done” in the early round — admitted SCEA, EA, or ED to their first choice school and then withdraw (or don’t submit) any other apps.

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Nobody applies to Ivy’s and UChicago at the same time. All theses kids at top schools pick a school and apply early. Admissions came out in December.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i think it's strange that you know that many kids who applied to every Ivy, and UChicago. Usually kids have a better sense of what they're looking for and put together a more cohesive list.

It's called "shotgunning". Top kids apply to the entire top 15.

There’s maybe one or two kids at a school like that. Most of the top of the classes at places like St Albans and Sidwell were done with apps months ago - we saw them at admit brunches.
We know one kid who applied widely and waited- he is exceptional and he got in everywhere. Absolutely everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody applies to Ivy’s and UChicago at the same time. All theses kids at top schools pick a school and apply early. Admissions came out in December.

The high stats kids apply ED/SCEA, those that get deferred or denied, EDII to UChicago, and get accepted.

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The OP is apoplectic and is trying his best to talk UChicago down. Must be an intense hatred fueled by rejection and jealously over the school's rise in the most consequential of the US based college rankings aka UsNews.

Despite his hate, Chicago marches on becoming more and more popular because it is one of the few elite schools left that actually values talent and academic metrics over issues like race diversity and unwritten quotas for certain races. If you are an unhooked academically gifted white or Asian kid, the Ivies just don't want you because you are toxic in terms of diversity for them. For such kids Chicago is a blessing if you demonstrate interest for the school.

Also for moderate to conservative students the atmosphere in Chicago is so much better than the toxic leftist environment at almost every Ivy league school and the parents I know have started to notice. This year I know of a number of parents who refused to send their high achieving kids to these leftist bubbles and instead looked at schools like Chicago,
These are full pay families that don't want to subsidize illeberal behavior at the Ivies. The Ivy brand is not what it used to be and folks like the OP just have to get used to it.

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U of Chicago is not an Ivy OP. Kids applying prefer Ivies

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Anonymous wrote:U of Chicago is not an Ivy OP. Kids applying prefer Ivies

But kids don’t get into ivies, so it doesn’t work out for them.
Kidsalso don’t get into Chicago in the general application pool unless they are geniuses and those geniuses would be getting into Ivy’s and MIT too, so none of this seems to be based in fact.

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Anonymous wrote:The OP is apoplectic and is trying his best to talk UChicago down. Must be an intense hatred fueled by rejection and jealously over the school's rise in the most consequential of the US based college rankings aka UsNews.

Despite his hate, Chicago marches on becoming more and more popular because it is one of the few elite schools left that actually values talent and academic metrics over issues like race diversity and unwritten quotas for certain races. If you are an unhooked academically gifted white or Asian kid, the Ivies just don't want you because you are toxic in terms of diversity for them. For such kids Chicago is a blessing if you demonstrate interest for the school.

Also for moderate to conservative students the atmosphere in Chicago is so much better than the toxic leftist environment at almost every Ivy league school and the parents I know have started to notice. This year I know of a number of parents who refused to send their high achieving kids to these leftist bubbles and instead looked at schools like Chicago,
These are full pay families that don't want to subsidize illeberal behavior at the Ivies. The Ivy brand is not what it used to be and folks like the OP just have to get used to it.

Ugh, I hate this kind of post. My kid is at a UofC (which we both think is a great school) but shares none of these opinions. She values the diversity she encounters there and reassures me that the a-hole parents I keep encountering online don’t reflect the school’s culture at all. It’s an intellectual place, so people care more about how (and that) you think, listen, learn, and engage than about where you’d place yourself on an ideological spectrum.

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Oops! DC’s at the UofC — aka UChicago — not “a UofC.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The OP is apoplectic and is trying his best to talk UChicago down. Must be an intense hatred fueled by rejection and jealously over the school's rise in the most consequential of the US based college rankings aka UsNews.

Despite his hate, Chicago marches on becoming more and more popular because it is one of the few elite schools left that actually values talent and academic metrics over issues like race diversity and unwritten quotas for certain races. If you are an unhooked academically gifted white or Asian kid, the Ivies just don't want you because you are toxic in terms of diversity for them. For such kids Chicago is a blessing if you demonstrate interest for the school.

Also for moderate to conservative students the atmosphere in Chicago is so much better than the toxic leftist environment at almost every Ivy league school and the parents I know have started to notice. This year I know of a number of parents who refused to send their high achieving kids to these leftist bubbles and instead looked at schools like Chicago,
These are full pay families that don't want to subsidize illeberal behavior at the Ivies. The Ivy brand is not what it used to be and folks like the OP just have to get used to it.

Ugh, I hate this kind of post. My kid is at a UofC (which we both think is a great school) but shares none of these opinions. She values the diversity she encounters there and reassures me that the a-hole parents I keep encountering online don’t reflect the school’s culture at all. It’s an intellectual place, so people care more about how (and that) you think, listen, learn, and engage than about where you’d place yourself on an ideological spectrum.

You must be a a*hole parent, to call another by that name, because of their political opinion. Don't you know that "Diversity of viewpoints" also counts as diversity? or are you one of those leftists who only value "certain kinds of diversity". If you kid really values diversity, then she should value interacting with moderates and conservatives, not just "liberals", otherwise she is just a fake.

Anyway, you know the school is doing the right thing when it comes to free speech issues and standing firm on not allowing students to dictate curriculum and invite policies at the school.

Even the Harvard Business Review has taken notice and featured the UChicago President prominently in a recent article.

https://hbr.org/cover-story/2018/03/divided-we-lead

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:i think it's strange that you know that many kids who applied to every Ivy, and UChicago. Usually kids have a better sense of what they're looking for and put together a more cohesive list.

It's called "shotgunning". Top kids apply to the entire top 15.

Top kids at private schools apply to 5 schools total. Usually get in to 4 of them. Rifle shot is not 15 it is 5-6 for top kids.

I'm assuming by Top Kid you mean Top 10% of a tough private or boarding school. These are all A's kids, brilliant and work hard. The conversation then with the Counselor is about not having you apply all over the place, taking up potential seats, but have your strong preferences, only apply to those, school fully backs it when they get The Call.

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There are intelligent and thoughtful conservatives — you’re just not one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:There are intelligent and thoughtful conservatives — you’re just not one of them.

For leftists like you, the only good conservatives are dead conservatives or those who apologize continuously for their "White privilege". Everybody else is an a**hole. But there are a lot of us in this country and we vote. So yeah... go on hating and go on losing elections.....

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Anonymous wrote:Does Forbes list nail undergrad caliber and status better than US News?

#1 Harvard University
#2 Stanford University
#3 Yale University
#4 Princeton University
#5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
#6 California Institute of Technology
#7 University of Pennsylvania
#8 Duke University
#9 Brown University
#10 Pomona College
#11 Claremont McKenna College
#12 Dartmouth College
#13 Williams College
#14 Columbia University
#15 Cornell University
#16 University of Chicago

Hahaha. That Chicago hater is back!!! No matter how hard you try, Chicago is ascendant and better for undergrad education than the school you would love to see at #3 spot in the USNews rankings.. Keep on dreaming!!!

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Anonymous wrote:There are intelligent and thoughtful conservatives — you’re just not one of them.

For leftists like you, the only good conservatives are dead conservatives or those who apologize continuously for their "White privilege". Everybody else is an a**hole. But there are a lot of us in this country and we vote. So yeah... go on hating and go on losing elections.....

I’m very glad your child is getting a UChicago education.