Stoddert and Key to get expansions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Check out Mayor's Budget version of CIP here: https://cfo.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ocfo/publication/attachments/DC_OCFO_FY19_Budget_V5_WEB.pdf at p. 180.

Thanks for posting!

Hardy Rec Center in Foxhall is getting a $4m renovation next year. Adding trails, splashpad and new playground. Nice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are going to have to create another by-right HS WoTP, right?

To me, it's only a matter of time.

Or change the feeder pattern and route some students to another by-right high school.

Where is there another by-right HS that's feasible? The Hardy kids would probably be diverted to elsewhere, but I have no idea where that would be that makes sense from a proximity perspective.

Go school by school --

Bancroft is closer to both Cardozo and Roosevelt than it is to Wilson.

Shepherd is closer to Coolidge and Roosevelt than it is to Wilson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are going to have to create another by-right HS WoTP, right?

To me, it's only a matter of time.

Or change the feeder pattern and route some students to another by-right high school.

Where is there another by-right HS that's feasible? The Hardy kids would probably be diverted to elsewhere, but I have no idea where that would be that makes sense from a proximity perspective.

Go school by school --

Bancroft is closer to both Cardozo and Roosevelt than it is to Wilson.

Shepherd is closer to Coolidge and Roosevelt than it is to Wilson.

Good points. Duh.

Mount Pleasant would have a collective meltdown if that happened.

[Anonymous]

Oyster and Bancroft should feed to Roosevelt (and only Roosevelt) because that's where they are putting a dual-language high school program.

And yes, people will have a fit. But if you want the city to invest in a dual-language elementary and middle school education for your kid, you should be required to see it all the way through 12th grade.

[Anonymous]

As already noted, Shepherd can feed Coolidge via the New North middle school in the DME' plans; Oyster and Bancroft can feed MacFarland and Roosevelt along with the other bilingual programs. Those three schools had 197 5th graders last year.

If DCPS wants to avoid the visual of kicking out only schools with substantial percentages of non-white students, they could also send Lafayette to Coolidge, which would add another 101 5th graders a year out of Wilson's feeder pattern and be more balanced--two schools to Coolidge and two to Roosevelt.

Adams won't be needed as a middle school if Oyster fed MacFarland. One option is to add another 200ish elementary students (Adams' capacity) to Oyster by putting grades PK-2 at Oyster and 3-5 at Adams. That would allow more kids (and potentially high-scoring kids) to go on to MacFarland and Roosevelt. It could pull a few Ward 3 families who want bilingual education away from Wilson (helping overcrowding), allow for more PK spaces in the Oyster boundary (so all the pissed-off parents of big kids could be matched by happy parents of toddlers, giving DCPS cover for the decision), and counteract the decline in OOB lottery places WoTP. No boundary adjustments would be required.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As already noted, Shepherd can feed Coolidge via the New North middle school in the DME' plans; Oyster and Bancroft can feed MacFarland and Roosevelt along with the other bilingual programs. Those three schools had 197 5th graders last year.

If DCPS wants to avoid the visual of kicking out only schools with substantial percentages of non-white students, they could also send Lafayette to Coolidge, which would add another 101 5th graders a year out of Wilson's feeder pattern and be more balanced--two schools to Coolidge and two to Roosevelt.

Adams won't be needed as a middle school if Oyster fed MacFarland. One option is to add another 200ish elementary students (Adams' capacity) to Oyster by putting grades PK-2 at Oyster and 3-5 at Adams. That would allow more kids (and potentially high-scoring kids) to go on to MacFarland and Roosevelt. It could pull a few Ward 3 families who want bilingual education away from Wilson (helping overcrowding), allow for more PK spaces in the Oyster boundary (so all the pissed-off parents of big kids could be matched by happy parents of toddlers, giving DCPS cover for the decision), and counteract the decline in OOB lottery places WoTP. No boundary adjustments would be required.

Lafayette is both ward 3&4 and the largest ES in the city with very vocal parents. The political hurdles to this plan are massive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are going to have to create another by-right HS WoTP, right?

To me, it's only a matter of time.

Or change the feeder pattern and route some students to another by-right high school.

Or stop letting kids who got into an elementary or middle school OOB continue on through the feeder pattern. If you get a lottery spot at Hearst, you're there through 5th grade and that's the only guarantee you get. Deal figures out how many extra spaces it has and does a lottery for them (DCPS could give a preference for OOB kids at feeder schools though personally I'd rather they didn't). Same with high school.

There are fewer than 1000 IB kids at Wilson now. The school is not out of room by any means. Having some of the OOB kids attending their IB high schools (which should get more funding for things like honors and AP classes even if the classes are tiny at first, extracurriculars, guidance counselors, etc.) would be better for those schools and better for traffic and better for the district as a whole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As already noted, Shepherd can feed Coolidge via the New North middle school in the DME' plans; Oyster and Bancroft can feed MacFarland and Roosevelt along with the other bilingual programs. Those three schools had 197 5th graders last year.

If DCPS wants to avoid the visual of kicking out only schools with substantial percentages of non-white students, they could also send Lafayette to Coolidge, which would add another 101 5th graders a year out of Wilson's feeder pattern and be more balanced--two schools to Coolidge and two to Roosevelt.

Adams won't be needed as a middle school if Oyster fed MacFarland. One option is to add another 200ish elementary students (Adams' capacity) to Oyster by putting grades PK-2 at Oyster and 3-5 at Adams. That would allow more kids (and potentially high-scoring kids) to go on to MacFarland and Roosevelt. It could pull a few Ward 3 families who want bilingual education away from Wilson (helping overcrowding), allow for more PK spaces in the Oyster boundary (so all the pissed-off parents of big kids could be matched by happy parents of toddlers, giving DCPS cover for the decision), and counteract the decline in OOB lottery places WoTP. No boundary adjustments would be required.

Lafayette is both ward 3&4 and the largest ES in the city with very vocal parents. The political hurdles to this plan are massive.

Then they're going to have to manage having their kid be one of 2000 students at Wilson. Bancroft and Oyster and Shepherd have vocal parents too. So do some of the neighborhoods zoned out of Wilson in the last boundary change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As already noted, Shepherd can feed Coolidge via the New North middle school in the DME' plans; Oyster and Bancroft can feed MacFarland and Roosevelt along with the other bilingual programs. Those three schools had 197 5th graders last year.

If DCPS wants to avoid the visual of kicking out only schools with substantial percentages of non-white students, they could also send Lafayette to Coolidge, which would add another 101 5th graders a year out of Wilson's feeder pattern and be more balanced--two schools to Coolidge and two to Roosevelt.

Adams won't be needed as a middle school if Oyster fed MacFarland. One option is to add another 200ish elementary students (Adams' capacity) to Oyster by putting grades PK-2 at Oyster and 3-5 at Adams. That would allow more kids (and potentially high-scoring kids) to go on to MacFarland and Roosevelt. It could pull a few Ward 3 families who want bilingual education away from Wilson (helping overcrowding), allow for more PK spaces in the Oyster boundary (so all the pissed-off parents of big kids could be matched by happy parents of toddlers, giving DCPS cover for the decision), and counteract the decline in OOB lottery places WoTP. No boundary adjustments would be required.

Lafayette is both ward 3&4 and the largest ES in the city with very vocal parents. The political hurdles to this plan are massive.

I thought Lafayette was definitely in Ward 4?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As already noted, Shepherd can feed Coolidge via the New North middle school in the DME' plans; Oyster and Bancroft can feed MacFarland and Roosevelt along with the other bilingual programs. Those three schools had 197 5th graders last year.

If DCPS wants to avoid the visual of kicking out only schools with substantial percentages of non-white students, they could also send Lafayette to Coolidge, which would add another 101 5th graders a year out of Wilson's feeder pattern and be more balanced--two schools to Coolidge and two to Roosevelt.

Adams won't be needed as a middle school if Oyster fed MacFarland. One option is to add another 200ish elementary students (Adams' capacity) to Oyster by putting grades PK-2 at Oyster and 3-5 at Adams. That would allow more kids (and potentially high-scoring kids) to go on to MacFarland and Roosevelt. It could pull a few Ward 3 families who want bilingual education away from Wilson (helping overcrowding), allow for more PK spaces in the Oyster boundary (so all the pissed-off parents of big kids could be matched by happy parents of toddlers, giving DCPS cover for the decision), and counteract the decline in OOB lottery places WoTP. No boundary adjustments would be required.

Lafayette is both ward 3&4 and the largest ES in the city with very vocal parents. The political hurdles to this plan are massive.

It's also crazy to make kids commute across the park just for the sake of "optics".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are going to have to create another by-right HS WoTP, right?

To me, it's only a matter of time.

Or change the feeder pattern and route some students to another by-right high school.

Or stop letting kids who got into an elementary or middle school OOB continue on through the feeder pattern. If you get a lottery spot at Hearst, you're there through 5th grade and that's the only guarantee you get. Deal figures out how many extra spaces it has and does a lottery for them (DCPS could give a preference for OOB kids at feeder schools though personally I'd rather they didn't). Same with high school.

There are fewer than 1000 IB kids at Wilson now. The school is not out of room by any means. Having some of the OOB kids attending their IB high schools (which should get more funding for things like honors and AP classes even if the classes are tiny at first, extracurriculars, guidance counselors, etc.) would be better for those schools and better for traffic and better for the district as a whole.

The way OOB feeder rights work is destabilizing to public education in the rest of the city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As already noted, Shepherd can feed Coolidge via the New North middle school in the DME' plans; Oyster and Bancroft can feed MacFarland and Roosevelt along with the other bilingual programs. Those three schools had 197 5th graders last year.

If DCPS wants to avoid the visual of kicking out only schools with substantial percentages of non-white students, they could also send Lafayette to Coolidge, which would add another 101 5th graders a year out of Wilson's feeder pattern and be more balanced--two schools to Coolidge and two to Roosevelt.

Adams won't be needed as a middle school if Oyster fed MacFarland. One option is to add another 200ish elementary students (Adams' capacity) to Oyster by putting grades PK-2 at Oyster and 3-5 at Adams. That would allow more kids (and potentially high-scoring kids) to go on to MacFarland and Roosevelt. It could pull a few Ward 3 families who want bilingual education away from Wilson (helping overcrowding), allow for more PK spaces in the Oyster boundary (so all the pissed-off parents of big kids could be matched by happy parents of toddlers, giving DCPS cover for the decision), and counteract the decline in OOB lottery places WoTP. No boundary adjustments would be required.

Lafayette is both ward 3&4 and the largest ES in the city with very vocal parents. The political hurdles to this plan are massive.

I thought Lafayette was definitely in Ward 4?

The school is, but the catchment area is both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As already noted, Shepherd can feed Coolidge via the New North middle school in the DME' plans; Oyster and Bancroft can feed MacFarland and Roosevelt along with the other bilingual programs. Those three schools had 197 5th graders last year.

If DCPS wants to avoid the visual of kicking out only schools with substantial percentages of non-white students, they could also send Lafayette to Coolidge, which would add another 101 5th graders a year out of Wilson's feeder pattern and be more balanced--two schools to Coolidge and two to Roosevelt.

Adams won't be needed as a middle school if Oyster fed MacFarland. One option is to add another 200ish elementary students (Adams' capacity) to Oyster by putting grades PK-2 at Oyster and 3-5 at Adams. That would allow more kids (and potentially high-scoring kids) to go on to MacFarland and Roosevelt. It could pull a few Ward 3 families who want bilingual education away from Wilson (helping overcrowding), allow for more PK spaces in the Oyster boundary (so all the pissed-off parents of big kids could be matched by happy parents of toddlers, giving DCPS cover for the decision), and counteract the decline in OOB lottery places WoTP. No boundary adjustments would be required.

Lafayette is both ward 3&4 and the largest ES in the city with very vocal parents. The political hurdles to this plan are massive.

I thought Lafayette was definitely in Ward 4?

The building is in Ward 4, the attendance boundaries span 3&4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are going to have to create another by-right HS WoTP, right?

To me, it's only a matter of time.

Or change the feeder pattern and route some students to another by-right high school.

Or stop letting kids who got into an elementary or middle school OOB continue on through the feeder pattern. If you get a lottery spot at Hearst, you're there through 5th grade and that's the only guarantee you get. Deal figures out how many extra spaces it has and does a lottery for them (DCPS could give a preference for OOB kids at feeder schools though personally I'd rather they didn't). Same with high school.

There are fewer than 1000 IB kids at Wilson now. The school is not out of room by any means. Having some of the OOB kids attending their IB high schools (which should get more funding for things like honors and AP classes even if the classes are tiny at first, extracurriculars, guidance counselors, etc.) would be better for those schools and better for traffic and better for the district as a whole.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As already noted, Shepherd can feed Coolidge via the New North middle school in the DME' plans; Oyster and Bancroft can feed MacFarland and Roosevelt along with the other bilingual programs. Those three schools had 197 5th graders last year.

If DCPS wants to avoid the visual of kicking out only schools with substantial percentages of non-white students, they could also send Lafayette to Coolidge, which would add another 101 5th graders a year out of Wilson's feeder pattern and be more balanced--two schools to Coolidge and two to Roosevelt.

Adams won't be needed as a middle school if Oyster fed MacFarland. One option is to add another 200ish elementary students (Adams' capacity) to Oyster by putting grades PK-2 at Oyster and 3-5 at Adams. That would allow more kids (and potentially high-scoring kids) to go on to MacFarland and Roosevelt. It could pull a few Ward 3 families who want bilingual education away from Wilson (helping overcrowding), allow for more PK spaces in the Oyster boundary (so all the pissed-off parents of big kids could be matched by happy parents of toddlers, giving DCPS cover for the decision), and counteract the decline in OOB lottery places WoTP. No boundary adjustments would be required.

Lafayette is both ward 3&4 and the largest ES in the city with very vocal parents. The political hurdles to this plan are massive.

Then they're going to have to manage having their kid be one of 2000 students at Wilson. Bancroft and Oyster and Shepherd have vocal parents too. So do some of the neighborhoods zoned out of Wilson in the last boundary change.

They don't have 850 students though.