Hispanic Origin

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid isn’t Hispanic enough to have realized it before now, he’s not Hispanic.

And if your school registration paperwork says he’s white, and you try to change it now- huge red flag.

OP here. I don't believe I ever filled out any paperwork that asked if he was Hispanic. Of course I would have checked if he was white, because he is. The thing is, you can be Hispanic AND white. So there's that. And even if we didn't check that box in the past, there is no reason why we cannot now. It is true he is Hispanic by definition. So I don't see how there is a red flag. I can easily prove it by presenting my brith certificate, which shows my mother's birth place. I also have my mother's passport from her country of origin which shows the date that she came to the US. Not worried about red flags here.

The thing is, the more I think about it, the more I want to check that box. That's because there are so many other people like me doing the same thing, and legitimately. The system is obviously broken, and as a PP said, until they fix it, I will be checking the Hispanic box.

Classy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action breeds the sort of cringe inducing cynicism on display here. In my case, some of my relatives can be traced to Spain. My kid is in an immersion school. We are not Hispanic.

That's right, you're not. You're Spanish. Hispanic and Spanish are different. Much like English and American are different, even though we both speak the same language.

Hispanic refers to people who speak Spanish, that includes Spain and the Latin countries but not Brazil. Latinos refer to people of geography. That includes the Southern and Latin continents, including Brazil but not Spain.

Here you go...from the College Board website:

NHRP's Definition of Hispanic/Latino
To be eligible, you must be at least one-quarter Hispanic/Latino. Hispanic/Latino is an ethnic category, not a racial category, so you can be of any race.

You must have ancestors from at least one of these countries: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Puerto Rico, Spain, Uruguay, or Venezuela.

https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/psat-nmsqt-psat-10/scholarships-and-recognition/national-hispanic-recognition-program

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action breeds the sort of cringe inducing cynicism on display here. In my case, some of my relatives can be traced to Spain. My kid is in an immersion school. We are not Hispanic.

That's right, you're not. You're Spanish. Hispanic and Spanish are different. Much like English and American are different, even though we both speak the same language.

Hispanic refers to people who speak Spanish, that includes Spain and the Latin countries but not Brazil. Latinos refer to people of geography. That includes the Southern and Latin continents, including Brazil but not Spain.

Here you go...from the College Board website:

NHRP's Definition of Hispanic/Latino
To be eligible, you must be at least one-quarter Hispanic/Latino. Hispanic/Latino is an ethnic category, not a racial category, so you can be of any race.

You must have ancestors from at least one of these countries: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Puerto Rico, Spain, Uruguay, or Venezuela.

https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/psat-nmsqt-psat-10/scholarships-and-recognition/national-hispanic-recognition-program

Note, there is nothing that says you must speak Spanish, nor does it indicate that you must embrace the culture. Simply have an ancestor from the country (a grandparent) and you are good to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action breeds the sort of cringe inducing cynicism on display here. In my case, some of my relatives can be traced to Spain. My kid is in an immersion school. We are not Hispanic.

That's right, you're not. You're Spanish. Hispanic and Spanish are different. Much like English and American are different, even though we both speak the same language.

Hispanic refers to people who speak Spanish, that includes Spain and the Latin countries but not Brazil. Latinos refer to people of geography. That includes the Southern and Latin continents, including Brazil but not Spain.

Here you go...from the College Board website:

NHRP's Definition of Hispanic/Latino
To be eligible, you must be at least one-quarter Hispanic/Latino. Hispanic/Latino is an ethnic category, not a racial category, so you can be of any race.

You must have ancestors from at least one of these countries: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Puerto Rico, Spain, Uruguay, or Venezuela.

https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/psat-nmsqt-psat-10/scholarships-and-recognition/national-hispanic-recognition-program

Note, there is nothing that says you must speak Spanish, nor does it indicate that you must embrace the culture. Simply have an ancestor from the country (a grandparent) and you are good to go.

I go to Taco Tuesday every week. Am I Hispanic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action breeds the sort of cringe inducing cynicism on display here. In my case, some of my relatives can be traced to Spain. My kid is in an immersion school. We are not Hispanic.

That's right, you're not. You're Spanish. Hispanic and Spanish are different. Much like English and American are different, even though we both speak the same language.

Hispanic refers to people who speak Spanish, that includes Spain and the Latin countries but not Brazil. Latinos refer to people of geography. That includes the Southern and Latin continents, including Brazil but not Spain.

Here you go...from the College Board website:

NHRP's Definition of Hispanic/Latino
To be eligible, you must be at least one-quarter Hispanic/Latino. Hispanic/Latino is an ethnic category, not a racial category, so you can be of any race.

You must have ancestors from at least one of these countries: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Puerto Rico, Spain, Uruguay, or Venezuela.

https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/psat-nmsqt-psat-10/scholarships-and-recognition/national-hispanic-recognition-program

Note, there is nothing that says you must speak Spanish, nor does it indicate that you must embrace the culture. Simply have an ancestor from the country (a grandparent) and you are good to go.

I go to Taco Tuesday every week. Am I Hispanic?

It depends...

[Anonymous]

Slight aside:

I am half Puerto Rican. I adopted a white boy. He is raised on the music, food, language, etc. Can he claim?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are starting the process of college visits, and have realized in the process that our DS is officially of Hispanic origin based on the fact his Grandmother was born and raised in a Latino country and immigrated here as an adult. We do not speak Spanish in the household. The only things Hispanic he is exposed to are my late mother's recipes for various dishes from her country of origin and his Spanish class in high school. Initially our thought was to not identify as Hispanic, but every person I talk to says we are crazy not to. Even the other day, I had a conversation with a perfect stranger at a gathering who is in a similar situation, where one grandparent was from a country in South America. Even though they raised their children predominantly with American (and Jewish) culture, they are claiming Hispanic descent on college applications. She also told me that we are just hurting ourselves by not doing so.

Now I am having second thoughts about this. If everyone else is doing this, then are we potentially giving up a spot by not checking that box?

I think the whole definition should change so that an applicant must have at least one half Hispanic origin or that the parent of the applicant must have been born in a Hispanic country. I am so torn, but I don't want to hurt my DS's chances of getting into his dream school.

Anyone else in this situation? What did you do?

I'd do it but be warned that the AA bump for Hispanic is nowhere near as much as it is for African-American.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Slight aside:

I am half Puerto Rican. I adopted a white boy. He is raised on the music, food, language, etc. Can he claim?

I would say yes. Why do people think that white and Hispanic are exclusive?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Slight aside:

I am half Puerto Rican. I adopted a white boy. He is raised on the music, food, language, etc. Can he claim?

I would say yes. Why do people think that white and Hispanic are exclusive?

Well, because he is white, biologically has white parents. That's why I asked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Slight aside:

I am half Puerto Rican. I adopted a white boy. He is raised on the music, food, language, etc. Can he claim?

I would say yes. Why do people think that white and Hispanic are exclusive?

Well, because he is white, biologically has white parents. That's why I asked.

But his white parents COULD also be Hispanic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Slight aside:

I am half Puerto Rican. I adopted a white boy. He is raised on the music, food, language, etc. Can he claim?

I would say yes. Why do people think that white and Hispanic are exclusive?

Well, because he is white, biologically has white parents. That's why I asked.

This guy is one of Mexico's greatest artists. Can't get much whiter than that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your kid isn’t Hispanic enough to have realized it before now, he’s not Hispanic.

And if your school registration paperwork says he’s white, and you try to change it now- huge red flag.

+1

When you try this kind of thing to increase DS's chances, it is clear he has very few.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Slight aside:

I am half Puerto Rican. I adopted a white boy. He is raised on the music, food, language, etc. Can he claim?

I would say yes. Why do people think that white and Hispanic are exclusive?

Well, because he is white, biologically has white parents. That's why I asked.

This guy is one of Mexico's greatest artists. Can't get much whiter than that.

Thank you.

So much ignorance... And we are in DC area!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid isn’t Hispanic enough to have realized it before now, he’s not Hispanic.

And if your school registration paperwork says he’s white, and you try to change it now- huge red flag.

+1

When you try this kind of thing to increase DS's chances, it is clear he has very few.

DS has a 35 ACT and 4.3 GPA. I’d say he has quite a few options. Now his options in the top 10 have gotten better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action breeds the sort of cringe inducing cynicism on display here. In my case, some of my relatives can be traced to Spain. My kid is in an immersion school. We are not Hispanic.

That's right, you're not. You're Spanish. Hispanic and Spanish are different. Much like English and American are different, even though we both speak the same language.

Can somebody tell me how to recognize a Hispanic person?