Not the pp............. Very few in the GOP were questioning his birth. They were working to make him a “one-term president,” and they ultimately failed at this. But, the opposition is ALWAYS wanting to make the president a one-term president, so that is not alarming. |
No argument from me there: there was a segment of right wingers who wanted to delegitimize Obama and it was disgraceful. Similarly there is a segment of liberals who are trying to do the same to Trump and it is also idiotic - and the proof of it is that only about 50 Democrats in the House supported the vote to impeach Trump and a dozen Democrats attended this farcical meeting with Lee. |
Your optimism is based on what? Have you seen photos of your Dear Leader recently? Have you seen his two-handed water drinking? Have you seen him fall down on the golf course? Have you heard him slur his words in a public speech? Have you seen how overweight he is? Have you read a transcript of his meandering, unfocused, incoherent interview recently with the New York Times? I seriously doubt he'll "be around" in the White House for two more years if he keeps declining at this rate. The man is 72. Someone will convince him resignation is in his best interest. |
Lol - okay just for the sake of courtesy I'll concede there were few actual elected officials in the GOP questioning his birth HOWEVER there were A LOT of conservatives who did (and still do) question his birth - and they ultimately failed to make him a one-term president so in hindsight does all their outrage and antics count as hysteria too or was it a warranted reaction on their part to be so animatedly opposed to a guy they couldn't stand in that instance but for whatever reason in this instance with this President its totally inappropriate for people who can't stand Donald to be just as fervent? |
Pelosi and Schumer are correct: Now is not the time to vote to impeach Trump because the Democrats do not have the votes. After the 2018 midterms, the Democrats WILL have the votes, and Trump will be impeached (if he has not resigned before then) in January 2019. He will do untold damage if he's still in office a year from now, but smart politicians know not to vote to impeach when they don't have the votes to win. |
You cretin. I did not vote for him and have voted consistently for Democrats through the decades including Obama both times. My point is that this sort of asinine questioning of Trump's mental health does not accomplish anything and it is borne out by the fact that most DEMOCRATS did not bother to attend the meeting with Lee - leave aside Republicans. We need to win the mid-terms and then win in 2020 and this sort of blather with some psychiatrist questioning his mental stability is idiotic especially given that the profession itself does not support evaluations being made without examining a patient. I guess it was time to have an impeachment thread or a 25th Amendment thread or some variation of it. It happens every week. Just because one does not agree with something that a handful of Democrats do does not mean that one is a Trump supporter. It means that even Democratic lawmakers can do totally idiotic things. |
Where you are off the mark is that even if the Democrats take control of the House and even if there is sufficient support to impeach Trump you still need 67 votes in the Senate to remove Trump from office and that is not going to happen. And don't start about the Democrats getting to that number in the mid-terms because there are only 8 Republican senate seats up for reelection and most are in safe red states. OTOH, there are 25 Democratic senators who are up for reelection ten are from red states or states where Trump won. Clinton was impeached but there were not the votes to remove him from office. Why do you think that it would be any different for Trump especially since the conventional thinking seems to be that the Republicans like having him around because he is a "useful idiot" in getting legislation passed? |
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Has anyone looked at Bandy Lee's credentials?
First, she is an Assistant Clinical Professor at Yale - usually there are a couple of levels above this on the tenured track: Associate Professor and Professor. But more to the point: her credentials have nothing to do with what she has opined on. This is what the Yale Department of Psychiatry says about her: Dr. Bandy Lee is an internationally recognized expert on violence. She served as Director of Research for the Center for the Study of Violence (Harvard, U. Penn., N.Y.U., and Yale), co-founded Yale’s Violence and Health Study Group (MacMillan Center for International Studies), and leads a project group for the World Health Organization’s Violence Prevention Alliance. She has consulted with the governments of Ireland and France, as well as California, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and New York on violence prevention programming in prisons and in the community. She played a key role in initiating reforms at Rikers Island, New York City’s correctional facility known for extreme levels of violence. She has been teaching students studying to be public defenders and to become asylum attorneys at Yale Law School since 2003, and a Global Health Studies course of her design, “Violence: Causes and Cures,” since 2013. "Violence prevention" seems to be her area of expertise. Could not the Democrats have found someone with better credentials to brief them on Trump's mental stability? |
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| It's obvious Republicans don't care, probably until one of the states they control is hit by a north Korean missile. |
Why would the Republicans do it when it is the Democrats who are ranting about his mental instability. Find someone who actually has expertise. You know the reason why they ended up with Lee? I suspect it is because reputable psychiatrists who have expertise in the area would not deign to offer an opinion without examining a patient. It would be unprofessional and the findings would be suspect. |
This is not the time, strategically. The Mueller investigation is ongoing, with new indictments, new evidence being gathered, etc. You want to make the best case at the optimal imte - when the case is clear enough that voting against either impeachment or conviction will be politically harmful for Republicans. We are not at that point yet. That does not mean that there is not concern about the state of the President's mental health, or other aspects of basic fitness (which goes beyond partisan or policy opposition there WAS Bush derangement syndrom, I remember Bush derangement syndrome, and the concerns now are much stronger and more widespread than that, and are, indeed, shared by many Republicans, though they are only stated publicly by Republican pundits who do not actually have to run in a GOP primary. |
Perhaps the Rs could use her to figure out why so many young white men like to shoot up schools and churches. |
She is a Voluntary (Clinical) Faculty. Yale doesn't pay her any salary. Is she practicing somewhere? What is her full time job then? |
It is against the American Psychiatric Association policy IIUC. That is known. IIUC the discussion now is if that policy has been shown to be unwise by President Trump. Undoubtedly many think it is unwise, but are reluctant to diagnose publicly - and I imagine some who are, would be unwilling to discuss it with partisan politicians. Anyway, under the 25th amendment its up to the cabinet to make the call, so it is their POV that matters. |