Extended calendar next school year at two schools

Anonymous
I would have a lot of questions also!

Do the teachers get paid more? I certainly hope so.
Anonymous
Also what happens when they decide to do this at ALL schools.

If the point of this is to close the Acheivement Gap, if they change to an extended school County-wide, will that just mean the effects are negated?

Lots for them to consider.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's strange that it's being done at Roscoe Nix but not Creasthaven.

That seems like a pain for families.


It could be a pain, but I'm hoping they have a good plan. The email they sent said they were still finalizing details. I wonder about the teachers too. Their year will also be extended. Do they have to agree? I know it's none of my business, just curious. I have so many questions, so I will be sure not to miss the meeting.


The teachers were called to a meeting and told of the plan. They were told if they weren't on board they should be voluntary transfers when the transfer season begins. There is no information on what the calendar will look like exactly or if/how salaries will increase with the additional duty days.
Anonymous
I hope there is a salary increase with increased days. How will they get teachers to buy in otherwise? Not that money is the only motivation, but this is a significant change to schedule. Some incentive could help.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I hope there is a salary increase with increased days. How will they get teachers to buy in otherwise? Not that money is the only motivation, but this is a significant change to schedule. Some incentive could help.


I’m not a teacher but there should definitely be an increase in compensation for the increased days! Otherwise, talk about low morale.

Also, my neighbor is a teacher and she supplements her income in the summer by teaching at one of the summer schools. If a shorter summer means that she loses that income, MCPS should certainly compensate for that.
Anonymous
Plus many teachers take the job because they have kids of their own and they want to be on the same schedule as their kids for child care reasons.

If a teacher’s kid attends a different school, which does not have the extended year, then that obliterates that benefit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems to work - helps kids who struggle. That is good

It also is expensive so it will probably be expanded slowly, if at all.


How much does it cost to implement this in the two schools? Will be interested to see what kind of ROI they achieve and if it helps improve scores at these schools.


Nice! Taxpayer funded summer camp+summer school+daycare for the low/no income single moms! Rest if you can deal with it!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's strange that it's being done at Roscoe Nix but not Creasthaven.

That seems like a pain for families.


Roscoe Nix has almost twice as many ELL students as Cresthaven.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems to work - helps kids who struggle. That is good

It also is expensive so it will probably be expanded slowly, if at all.


How much does it cost to implement this in the two schools? Will be interested to see what kind of ROI they achieve and if it helps improve scores at these schools.


Nice! Taxpayer funded summer camp+summer school+daycare for the low/no income single moms! Rest if you can deal with it!


You do realize that there is not just low income single mom's at these schools. You are just jealous that you are not getting free camp/child care.

We don't need or want the child care. I want the time with my child. We are at a Title One school, child does not need extra time as we as parents supplement during the summer. I don't agree with it at all. If kids need support, send them to summer school.
Anonymous
It's not a true 12-month school year. Those schools are usually 9 weeks on, three weeks off. This is not unlike what we've had in place before - ELO, or extended learning opportunities.

True 12-month schools function in an integrated way; they don't rely on an additional 30 days to simply extend the year.

Furthermore, in many cases, poverty and absenteeism go hand-in-hand. Who's to ensure that attendance is mandatory over these 30 additional days?

These measures are "add ons" that won't be sustainable.

Furthermore, if teachers at these schools have small kids themselves, who's going to pay for their childcare if they're forced to work? It's not as though teachers are making big bucks and can afford to suddenly pay for childcare at this late date. Many will opt to leave, I imagine.

I suppose any measure will have built in risks and if you don't try you'll never know . . . However, how thought out were these plans? That's my question. And the only people who will know the truth are the teachers at these schools.
Anonymous
Some teachers might be thrilled to have the extra salary. After an initial shuffle I wouldn't think that would be a problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Some teachers might be thrilled to have the extra salary. After an initial shuffle I wouldn't think that would be a problem.


And some don't.

When you spring a new initiative on specific schools (2 in this case) and you don't ask for teacher input, you will see many hard-working people abandon ship.

So this "initial shuffle" means people are forced to quickly search for jobs elsewhere. might be a blessing in disguise for many, however . . .
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's not a true 12-month school year. Those schools are usually 9 weeks on, three weeks off. This is not unlike what we've had in place before - ELO, or extended learning opportunities.

True 12-month schools function in an integrated way; they don't rely on an additional 30 days to simply extend the year.

Furthermore, in many cases, poverty and absenteeism go hand-in-hand. Who's to ensure that attendance is mandatory over these 30 additional days?

These measures are "add ons" that won't be sustainable.

Furthermore, if teachers at these schools have small kids themselves, who's going to pay for their childcare if they're forced to work? It's not as though teachers are making big bucks and can afford to suddenly pay for childcare at this late date. Many will opt to leave, I imagine.

I suppose any measure will have built in risks and if you don't try you'll never know . . . However, how thought out were these plans? That's my question. And the only people who will know the truth are the teachers at these schools.


These were my initial thoughts also.

I wonder how much I put was sought from Teachers.

Also agree that it seems like a somewhat half-assed measure to just add on a few days. How is that any different than the summer school that is already offered? And how can they make extra attendance mandatory for some kids but not all? That sounds discriminatory. Rich kids can go to school less days??

Maybe some of this will be addressed at the meeting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Some teachers might be thrilled to have the extra salary. After an initial shuffle I wouldn't think that would be a problem.


Are you positive that there will be extra salary? I did not see that made clear anywhere.

Also not everyone wants more salary. Some teachers like the job because of the somewhat family-friendly hours. Agree with the PP that you may end up losing some good, talented Teachers, seeing as how this is being implemented on somewhat short notice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some teachers might be thrilled to have the extra salary. After an initial shuffle I wouldn't think that would be a problem.


Are you positive that there will be extra salary? I did not see that made clear anywhere.

Also not everyone wants more salary. Some teachers like the job because of the somewhat family-friendly hours. Agree with the PP that you may end up losing some good, talented Teachers, seeing as how this is being implemented on somewhat short notice.


Pp did not sat everyone wants more salary..only that some teachers do and they would be drawn to the school. I can not even consider that the salary would not be higher.
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