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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please help me to understand how having a different skin color has anything to do with the type of education a student is receiving in FCPS? If no students at all were getting TJ from a certain middle school than you could look at that school for instructional issues.

TJ parent, and this is a huge oversimplification. Fact is almost every kid who attends TJ comes from years of parents pouring time and energy and money into their kid’s education. It may (or may not) be that the Asian parents tend more towards structured prep, while the white parents focus more on a more intangible creating a good environment idea— summer camp and concerts and Museum visits and NPR on in the car. But this years TJ kids were 3rd graders who did Science Olympiad and Odyssey of the Mind, and supplemental math or science enrichment, play or played an insrumemt (need to rent or buy, likely supplemental lessons), visited hands on kids museums, went to Science summer camp and has weekly outings to the library. In MS, having a resume of STEM focused activities is an admissions requirement. And once a kid is there, parents are running extra carpools from an hour away and providing the extra supports to make it work. I don’t know any kids who are accepted to TJ without having parents significantly involved in their education. Practically speaking, TJ is only possible for kids whose parents have education, money and free time. And you can’t really take a kid with a weak math and reading foundation, and a not so great handle on study skills, and without a lot of parental involvement, and expect them to swim instead of sink. Which is why TJ’s FARMs and URM numbers are so bad.

TJ has been actively trying to change this, and has a couple of programs for current students to teach test prep and mentor FARMs/URM students in MS through the admissions process. Thus far, it does not seem to have moved the needle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So bottom line it’s an affirmative action initiative to increase AA & Hispanic #s in AAP and at TJ?

No. Nice try at simplicity and dog-whistling, though. It’s a campaign to raise awareness around how the learning needs of all students are being met. If black and Hispanic kids aren’t getting into TJ, for example, then Fairfax has to look at how those students are being taught and what’s missing in their instruction.

Getting into tj is not a requirement, county should focus on illegal immigration

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So bottom line it’s an affirmative action initiative to increase AA & Hispanic #s in AAP and at TJ?

No. Nice try at simplicity and dog-whistling, though. It’s a campaign to raise awareness around how the learning needs of all students are being met. If black and Hispanic kids aren’t getting into TJ, for example, then Fairfax has to look at how those students are being taught and what’s missing in their instruction.

Getting into tj is not a requirement, county should focus on illegal immigration

Getting into TJ is not a requirement. But if the TJ applicant pool has 250AA students and 4 get in, while the acceptance rate for white and Asian kids is 20%: there is a problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's the latest code word to address what's hot in liberal education world currently closing the achievement gap and every kid going to college

The achievement gap will never be closed so its a waste of time and money
Every kid should not go to college another waste of time and money

What we should do is have high quality education for everyone which is what Fairfax already does

Closing the achievement gap only happens at home when parents actually give a dam about the future of their children

Actually it will happen when we close the income gap in this country. If you think this is just about parents caring about their kids future, you’re sadly delusional in your white bubble. I’ve met parents who’ve given such a damn about their children’s future that they have literally sacrificed their safety and gone through treacherous obstacles that you can’t imagine. You couldn’t find parents who care more about their kids. AND even with all that “giving a damn,” their kids will still have different learning needs than those whose parents have access to a wealth of resources and basics such as healthcare, safe housing and food.

What up racist SJW

and I'll add Asians blow this out of the water they come over here with extremely low incomes and their kids become very successful. Too many blacks and hispanics don't value education.... that's the problem

Oh STFU, you racist bumpkin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So bottom line it’s an affirmative action initiative to increase AA & Hispanic #s in AAP and at TJ?

No. Nice try at simplicity and dog-whistling, though. It’s a campaign to raise awareness around how the learning needs of all students are being met. If black and Hispanic kids aren’t getting into TJ, for example, then Fairfax has to look at how those students are being taught and what’s missing in their instruction.

NP. Ok, but hasn’t Fairfax been working on this for years? If not, why not?

[Anonymous]

No other minority groups do what the asians do - - tutoring en masse keeping students a chapter ahead of their peers. Sorry but not's not happening that way in the AA/hispanic community. And stating it - is not about racism. DD was often the only non-asian female in her STEM classes.

[Anonymous]

You can take a horse to the water, but you can not have a horse to drink.

[Anonymous]

Fairfax is almost totally blue. Not sure why equality is not vigorously supported. Hopefully there will now be state action.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax is almost totally blue. Not sure why equality is not vigorously supported. Hopefully there will now be state action.

I think everyone supports the idea of equality. FCPS has been aggressive in the last few years about pushing the strongest teachers and administrators into weaker schools. So how do you propose to implement equality? Does equality mean affirmative action at TJ? Lower AAP cutoffs for URMs? Busing Eastern county Kids? Rezoning? Does equality mean equal opportunity or equal results? Do you think you can dump an unprepared kid with put strong support at home into AAP or TJ and they will succeed? These are real issues. Especially in a county where parents sacrifice financially and pay a premium to buy into a good school zone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax is almost totally blue. Not sure why equality is not vigorously supported. Hopefully there will now be state action.

I think everyone supports the idea of equality. FCPS has been aggressive in the last few years about pushing the strongest teachers and administrators into weaker schools. So how do you propose to implement equality? Does equality mean affirmative action at TJ? Lower AAP cutoffs for URMs? Busing Eastern county Kids? Rezoning? Does equality mean equal opportunity or equal results? Do you think you can dump an unprepared kid with put strong support at home into AAP or TJ and they will succeed? These are real issues. Especially in a county where parents sacrifice financially and pay a premium to buy into a good school zone.

Of course these are real issues, but it's annoying that a bunch of Asian immigrants come before the School Board and demand that the School Board not even consider them, because they are worried that at some future point it might mean some more non-Asian kids get into AAP or TJ. It's like the entire system has to replicate what they were used to in their home countries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax is almost totally blue. Not sure why equality is not vigorously supported. Hopefully there will now be state action.

I think everyone supports the idea of equality. FCPS has been aggressive in the last few years about pushing the strongest teachers and administrators into weaker schools. So how do you propose to implement equality? Does equality mean affirmative action at TJ? Lower AAP cutoffs for URMs? Busing Eastern county Kids? Rezoning? Does equality mean equal opportunity or equal results? Do you think you can dump an unprepared kid with put strong support at home into AAP or TJ and they will succeed? These are real issues. Especially in a county where parents sacrifice financially and pay a premium to buy into a good school zone.

Of course these are real issues, but it's annoying that a bunch of Asian immigrants come before the School Board and demand that the School Board not even consider them, because they are worried that at some future point it might mean some more non-Asian kids get into AAP or TJ. It's like the entire system has to replicate what they were used to in their home countries.

It's good that people are coming forward and making their voices heard, even if you disagree with them, even if they are saying things that you think are dumb or self-centered or anti-One Fairfax. Engagement is always good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax is almost totally blue. Not sure why equality is not vigorously supported. Hopefully there will now be state action.

I think everyone supports the idea of equality. FCPS has been aggressive in the last few years about pushing the strongest teachers and administrators into weaker schools. So how do you propose to implement equality? Does equality mean affirmative action at TJ? Lower AAP cutoffs for URMs? Busing Eastern county Kids? Rezoning? Does equality mean equal opportunity or equal results? Do you think you can dump an unprepared kid with put strong support at home into AAP or TJ and they will succeed? These are real issues. Especially in a county where parents sacrifice financially and pay a premium to buy into a good school zone.

Of course these are real issues, but it's annoying that a bunch of Asian immigrants come before the School Board and demand that the School Board not even consider them, because they are worried that at some future point it might mean some more non-Asian kids get into AAP or TJ. It's like the entire system has to replicate what they were used to in their home countries.

It's good that people are coming forward and making their voices heard, even if you disagree with them, even if they are saying things that you think are dumb or self-centered or anti-One Fairfax. Engagement is always good.

Agree with the engagement part, but believe the views of these extremely selfish Asian parents, who already have groups like FCAG to advance their agenda and keep other minorities out of AAP and TJ, should not derail One Fairfax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's the latest code word to address what's hot in liberal education world currently closing the achievement gap and every kid going to college

The achievement gap will never be closed so its a waste of time and money
Every kid should not go to college another waste of time and money

What we should do is have high quality education for everyone which is what Fairfax already does

Closing the achievement gap only happens at home when parents actually give a dam about the future of their children

Actually it will happen when we close the income gap in this country. If you think this is just about parents caring about their kids future, you’re sadly delusional in your white bubble. I’ve met parents who’ve given such a damn about their children’s future that they have literally sacrificed their safety and gone through treacherous obstacles that you can’t imagine. You couldn’t find parents who care more about their kids. AND even with all that “giving a damn,” their kids will still have different learning needs than those whose parents have access to a wealth of resources and basics such as healthcare, safe housing and food.

What up racist SJW

and I'll add Asians blow this out of the water they come over here with extremely low incomes and their kids become very successful. Too many blacks and hispanics don't value education.... that's the problem

It's called systematic racism you twit! Asians aren't discriminated against the way blacks and hispanics are. They aren't now and have never been historically. They're the model minority and half the asian women just marry white guys anyway because white guys prefer asian women over us white women. It's not that other groups value education less, it's that they have things like food and shelter to worry about as well as they're not treated the same and so they don't start the race at the same line as whites and asians. You need a history lesson.

[Anonymous]

The board will vote on 11/20 and most of them except one or two will most
Likely say yes to this. The problem is the resolution was drafted all nicely without much specifics or how they will implement this. Huge power and responsility places on their executive leadership teams without knowing what this means to all. If you have any concerns or questions, addressing them to your representative must happen before their vote.

[Anonymous]

On its face "One Fairfax" seems like a non-controversial statement. However, I suspect it will be used as a weapon by various groups. In that sense, I think it is a trap. To vote against it looks like you are being racist or discriminatory. But, a vote for it may handcuff the board into making certain decisions in the future that are against logic, but in line with social or economic engineering.

That's the problem with this One Fairfax idea. As a big picture idea, it is laudable. But, when applied to specific decisions, it forces outcomes that are not supported by the facts just b/c there are indirect consequences to certain groups.