Study finds more women being forced to marry down

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well duh; they don't make men like they used to. Nowadays you have to raise a man like he's your child.

Thank a generation of "I don't need a man, I can do it ALL" single mothers for giving us a generation of boys who don't know how to be men.

Because that's what you're dealing with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well duh; they don't make men like they used to. Nowadays you have to raise a man like he's your child.

This was true of my first marriage though he and his family felt I was marrying up.

Second time around, my DH is a man in full and a self made one. Growing up poor will do that to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well duh; they don't make men like they used to. Nowadays you have to raise a man like he's your child.

Thank a generation of "I don't need a man, I can do it ALL" single mothers for giving us a generation of boys who don't know how to be men.

Because that's what you're dealing with.

What's my Ex's excuse? He's 48 and grew up in a 2-parent, UMC home. Had never held a job more than two years in a row and is $10k behind in CS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well duh; they don't make men like they used to. Nowadays you have to raise a man like he's your child.

Thank a generation of "I don't need a man, I can do it ALL" single mothers for giving us a generation of boys who don't know how to be men.

Because that's what you're dealing with.

Men haven't changed. Women can now live without a husband, is all. Then they insist that they'll remain single unless the next guy can leap over tall buildings in a single bound, and so they stay single and gripe about men.

But men haven't changed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well duh; they don't make men like they used to. Nowadays you have to raise a man like he's your child.

Thank a generation of "I don't need a man, I can do it ALL" single mothers for giving us a generation of boys who don't know how to be men.

Because that's what you're dealing with.

Men haven't changed. Women can now live without a husband, is all. Then they insist that they'll remain single unless the next guy can leap over tall buildings in a single bound, and so they stay single and gripe about men.

But men haven't changed.

Women are the ones who have changed. The egos of women have gotten bigger and the "mr bigs" in high demand. Many women will not date a man because he did not attend this or tat university and feel any other univeristies are below them. When you look at these women objectively they have accomplished nothing but feel entitled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Study finds more men being forced to marry fat...

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well duh; they don't make men like they used to. Nowadays you have to raise a man like he's your child.

Yes, lots of man children running around looking to marry Mommy to take care of them. I find these type of men pathetic. Even accomplished men don't want to associate with men who lack the ability of being a real man. The DC area has probably the worst case of women marrying down. I see so many accomplished women marrying down just to secure a man. Most of these type of marriages fail. Eventually having an emasculating man as a husband doesn't fit the bill. Far too many women marry these guys thinking they like to have the upper hand. However, a man who lacks ambition, financial stability, who can't provide, etc. is not appealing to many women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Study finds more men being forced to marry fat...

Only if you lack options dude! Smart men marry international. However, most American men are fat duds as well. So, like minds attract each other.

[Anonymous]

Two things have changed:

There aren't enough careers for non educated men like there used to be. Think of the good union life time jobs that paid enough to raise a middle class family. So now we have a big gap with very financially and non financially successful men.

Also, women have become better educated and more financially independent. They don't have to be married to raise a family.

But what hasn't changed is men are still primarily judged by women in their earning ability and women are still primarily judged on their looks. So there are less marriagable men I.e. financially successful and women overvalue their their potential because they think a college degree matters to men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well duh; they don't make men like they used to. Nowadays you have to raise a man like he's your child.

Thank a generation of "I don't need a man, I can do it ALL" single mothers for giving us a generation of boys who don't know how to be men.

Because that's what you're dealing with.

Men haven't changed. Women can now live without a husband, is all. Then they insist that they'll remain single unless the next guy can leap over tall buildings in a single bound, and so they stay single and gripe about men.

But men haven't changed.

Women are the ones who have changed. The egos of women have gotten bigger and the "mr bigs" in high demand. Many women will not date a man because he did not attend this or tat university and feel any other univeristies are below them. When you look at these women objectively they have accomplished nothing but feel entitled.

DP.. I half agree with your post. Women have indeed changed. We have more options. Why is that a bad thing? Would men like it if they had no options?

Women have changed in that they can get an education and have any career they want. They can now be financially independent and don't have to rely on a spouse, especially an abusive one. Yes, this has allowed women to be more picky. Some women are too picky and do feel entitled. Most women I know who make good money (six figures) but didn't attend an elite university don't really care what university a man went to, as long as they have a good job (meaning, they are also financially secure) and they are *adults*, not kids who need to be mothered.

Those two things were my only requirements really, other than the physical traits. My two sisters feel the same way. Unfortunately, one of them ended up marrying a man-boy because he had promised that he would change once they were married. Famous last words.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well duh; they don't make men like they used to. Nowadays you have to raise a man like he's your child.

Thank a generation of "I don't need a man, I can do it ALL" single mothers for giving us a generation of boys who don't know how to be men.

Because that's what you're dealing with.

Men haven't changed. Women can now live without a husband, is all. Then they insist that they'll remain single unless the next guy can leap over tall buildings in a single bound, and so they stay single and gripe about men.

But men haven't changed.

Yes I'm single in my 30s but only because the men that I have met worth dating/marrying have kids and I'm not interested in being a step-parent. Knew a guy that was everything I was looking for but had 2 kids and a crazy ex-wife...no thanks.

As for the majority of other men I met, some lack basic grammar skills, still live at home with their mothers, are working in dead in end jobs with no ambition to move up, have roommates galore (I live in a lower COL area so there's really no reason to have a roommate past 25 unlike say DC), don't have a car, criminal background, abusive (I can see the signs and run the other way quickly), have kids they can't afford, etc. These are not the kind of men that I would want and I definitely wouldn't my future daughter to be with someone like this either. And these examples aren't only limited to men, some women act like this too.

[Anonymous]

Pussy galore!

[Anonymous]

Now money marries money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now money marries money.

That has ALWAYS been true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two things have changed:

There aren't enough careers for non educated men like there used to be. Think of the good union life time jobs that paid enough to raise a middle class family. So now we have a big gap with very financially and non financially successful men.

Also, women have become better educated and more financially independent. They don't have to be married to raise a family.

But what hasn't changed is men are still primarily judged by women in their earning ability and women are still primarily judged on their looks. So there are less marriagable men I.e. financially successful and women overvalue their their potential because they think a college degree matters to men.

I think some men see attractive women as very needy and high maintenance - they have neither the money or patience to deal with that crap.