Federal court allows plaintiffs records from four competitive high schools including TJ

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You really think HYPS are going to be forced to turn into 90% soulless Asian grinds?

Maybe we should subpoena Tiger parents phone and email records to see if they paid an essay writer, college consultant, cram shop for exam data, and on and on.

Tell me how international kids can't speak a lick of English yet write flawless common app essays and score perfectly on the SAT.

Really ? Why do you think that your child can't compete on equal objective evaluation with an Asian child ? Why do you think that your child can't learn to write well in multiple languages ? Why do you think that you cannot buy the help that you believe that Asian parents have for their children? Tutoring is the same price regardless of the race of the student. The same is available to anyone who can pay.

Should schools be admitting students because their parents forced them into a cram school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You really think HYPS are going to be forced to turn into 90% soulless Asian grinds?

Maybe we should subpoena Tiger parents phone and email records to see if they paid an essay writer, college consultant, cram shop for exam data, and on and on.

Tell me how international kids can't speak a lick of English yet write flawless common app essays and score perfectly on the SAT.

Really ? Why do you think that your child can't compete on equal objective evaluation with an Asian child ? Why do you think that your child can't learn to write well in multiple languages ? Why do you think that you cannot buy the help that you believe that Asian parents have for their children? Tutoring is the same price regardless of the race of the student. The same is available to anyone who can pay.

Should schools be admitting students because their parents forced them into a cram school?

People can chant "Asians ONLY have high GPA and SAT scores", "They are robots only good at taking tests" etc. until the cows come home but that doesn't make the statement true or less racist. Learn something from the racist attitudes arising from UVA/Charlottesville.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You really think HYPS are going to be forced to turn into 90% soulless Asian grinds?

Maybe we should subpoena Tiger parents phone and email records to see if they paid an essay writer, college consultant, cram shop for exam data, and on and on.

Tell me how international kids can't speak a lick of English yet write flawless common app essays and score perfectly on the SAT.

+1000

Honestly, this. What will happen is that these schools will begin looking for traits that are not academic to get more white people on campus.

Look, I worked in biglaw and saw it as clearly as day. All of sudden no one cares about grades or writing ability when it comes to Asian attorneys. They get branded as too meek and lacking in "leadership" skills. Hence unqualified compared to white (mostly male) attorneys. Black and Latinos get labeled unqualified academically. You can't win at this and the whole exercise is just another chance to engineer the deck in favor of people it's always been.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You really think HYPS are going to be forced to turn into 90% soulless Asian grinds?

Maybe we should subpoena Tiger parents phone and email records to see if they paid an essay writer, college consultant, cram shop for exam data, and on and on.

Tell me how international kids can't speak a lick of English yet write flawless common app essays and score perfectly on the SAT.

How many rich white parents on this forum alone seek to hire counselors to help their kids with their applications? How many hire private tutors? You really think only Asian American students prep?

And this is not about international students. Affirmative action only applies to US residents. Please learn the difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You really think HYPS are going to be forced to turn into 90% soulless Asian grinds?

Maybe we should subpoena Tiger parents phone and email records to see if they paid an essay writer, college consultant, cram shop for exam data, and on and on.

Tell me how international kids can't speak a lick of English yet write flawless common app essays and score perfectly on the SAT.

Really ? Why do you think that your child can't compete on equal objective evaluation with an Asian child ? Why do you think that your child can't learn to write well in multiple languages ? Why do you think that you cannot buy the help that you believe that Asian parents have for their children? Tutoring is the same price regardless of the race of the student. The same is available to anyone who can pay.

Should schools be admitting students because their parents forced them into a cram school?

People can chant "Asians ONLY have high GPA and SAT scores", "They are robots only good at taking tests" etc. until the cows come home but that doesn't make the statement true or less racist. Learn something from the racist attitudes arising from UVA/Charlottesville.

I'm not say "Asians ONLY have blah blah blah". I'm saying that schools aren't impressed with a high SAT score because it can be bought and/or beaten into kids. When a high SAT score is no longer a discriminator, Asians lose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You really think HYPS are going to be forced to turn into 90% soulless Asian grinds?

Maybe we should subpoena Tiger parents phone and email records to see if they paid an essay writer, college consultant, cram shop for exam data, and on and on.

Tell me how international kids can't speak a lick of English yet write flawless common app essays and score perfectly on the SAT.

How many rich white parents on this forum alone seek to hire counselors to help their kids with their applications? How many hire private tutors? You really think only Asian American students prep?

And this is not about international students. Affirmative action only applies to US residents. Please learn the difference.

Not only do white parents hire private tutors and admissions counselors, psychologists, and have no problem with prescription medications (supposedly for ADHD but really to "force" kids to stay up and study) etc. etc., they also use any and all connections to "game" the admissions process. Let's subpoena emails and phone records of upper class white parents to see how much tutoring, counseling, medicating and "use of connections' goes on as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You really think HYPS are going to be forced to turn into 90% soulless Asian grinds?

Maybe we should subpoena Tiger parents phone and email records to see if they paid an essay writer, college consultant, cram shop for exam data, and on and on.

Tell me how international kids can't speak a lick of English yet write flawless common app essays and score perfectly on the SAT.

Really ? Why do you think that your child can't compete on equal objective evaluation with an Asian child ? Why do you think that your child can't learn to write well in multiple languages ? Why do you think that you cannot buy the help that you believe that Asian parents have for their children? Tutoring is the same price regardless of the race of the student. The same is available to anyone who can pay.

Should schools be admitting students because their parents forced them into a cram school?

No, schools should be admitting g students without discriminating on the basis of race which is illegal!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You really think HYPS are going to be forced to turn into 90% soulless Asian grinds?

Maybe we should subpoena Tiger parents phone and email records to see if they paid an essay writer, college consultant, cram shop for exam data, and on and on.

Tell me how international kids can't speak a lick of English yet write flawless common app essays and score perfectly on the SAT.

Really ? Why do you think that your child can't compete on equal objective evaluation with an Asian child ? Why do you think that your child can't learn to write well in multiple languages ? Why do you think that you cannot buy the help that you believe that Asian parents have for their children? Tutoring is the same price regardless of the race of the student. The same is available to anyone who can pay.

Should schools be admitting students because their parents forced them into a cram school?

No, schools should be admitting students without discriminating on the basis of race which is illegal!

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You really think HYPS are going to be forced to turn into 90% soulless Asian grinds?

Maybe we should subpoena Tiger parents phone and email records to see if they paid an essay writer, college consultant, cram shop for exam data, and on and on.

Tell me how international kids can't speak a lick of English yet write flawless common app essays and score perfectly on the SAT.

No need for Asiana to "grind away" and I am certain they would love to become slackers just like white, black and other races if they didn't face discrimination in the first place. As for the "soulless" comment, you should join your sisters/brothers in Charlottesville. You will fit right in with your racist attitude.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You really think HYPS are going to be forced to turn into 90% soulless Asian grinds?

Maybe we should subpoena Tiger parents phone and email records to see if they paid an essay writer, college consultant, cram shop for exam data, and on and on.

Tell me how international kids can't speak a lick of English yet write flawless common app essays and score perfectly on the SAT.

+1000

Honestly, this. What will happen is that these schools will begin looking for traits that are not academic to get more white people on campus.

Look, I worked in biglaw and saw it as clearly as day. All of sudden no one cares about grades or writing ability when it comes to Asian attorneys. They get branded as too meek and lacking in "leadership" skills. Hence unqualified compared to white (mostly male) attorneys. Black and Latinos get labeled unqualified academically. You can't win at this and the whole exercise is just another chance to engineer the deck in favor of people it's always been.

Wait, are you supporting the prior posters' bigotry?

Did you support Jewish quotas?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You really think HYPS are going to be forced to turn into 90% soulless Asian grinds?

Maybe we should subpoena Tiger parents phone and email records to see if they paid an essay writer, college consultant, cram shop for exam data, and on and on.

Tell me how international kids can't speak a lick of English yet write flawless common app essays and score perfectly on the SAT.

Really ? Why do you think that your child can't compete on equal objective evaluation with an Asian child ? Why do you think that your child can't learn to write well in multiple languages ? Why do you think that you cannot buy the help that you believe that Asian parents have for their children? Tutoring is the same price regardless of the race of the student. The same is available to anyone who can pay.

I lecture on the side and 99% of my cheaters are international students. It's all swept under the rug.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You really think HYPS are going to be forced to turn into 90% soulless Asian grinds?

Maybe we should subpoena Tiger parents phone and email records to see if they paid an essay writer, college consultant, cram shop for exam data, and on and on.

Tell me how international kids can't speak a lick of English yet write flawless common app essays and score perfectly on the SAT.

How many rich white parents on this forum alone seek to hire counselors to help their kids with their applications? How many hire private tutors? You really think only Asian American students prep?

And this is not about international students. Affirmative action only applies to US residents. Please learn the difference.

Not only do white parents hire private tutors and admissions counselors, psychologists, and have no problem with prescription medications (supposedly for ADHD but really to "force" kids to stay up and study) etc. etc., they also use any and all connections to "game" the admissions process. Let's subpoena emails and phone records of upper class white parents to see how much tutoring, counseling, medicating and "use of connections' goes on as well.

+1,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
No need for Asiana to "grind away" and I am certain they would love to become slackers just like white, black and other races if they didn't face discrimination in the first place. As for the "soulless" comment, you should join your sisters/brothers in Charlottesville. You will fit right in with your racist attitude.

Soulless means no or little English, obviously not in any clubs, no school spirit, toiling around in Euro saloons and German sports cars all day while smoking cigarettes, test banks to cheat.

Why would any elite liberal arts college want thousands of soulless nerds on campus? They add nothing, unless you're hard up for out of state tuition revenue, see: Big Ten, Cal, UCLA. Elite liberal arts colleges want smart AND gregarious leaders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
No need for Asiana to "grind away" and I am certain they would love to become slackers just like white, black and other races if they didn't face discrimination in the first place. As for the "soulless" comment, you should join your sisters/brothers in Charlottesville. You will fit right in with your racist attitude.

Soulless means no or little English, obviously not in any clubs, no school spirit, toiling around in Euro saloons and German sports cars all day while smoking cigarettes, test banks to cheat.

Why would any elite liberal arts college want thousands of soulless nerds on campus? They add nothing, unless you're hard up for out of state tuition revenue, see: Big Ten, Cal, UCLA. Elite liberal arts colleges want smart AND gregarious leaders.

You are a racist for stereotyping Asian American students as "soulless" robots. You would not stereotype black students as stupid or Hispanic students as lazy because that would not be politically correct. The reason you feel relatively safe to be able to spout whatever vile,racist stereotypes against Asians IS THE REASON we have an institutionalized racial discrimination against Asian American students in college admissions. Leave international students out of the discussion since that is a separate issue not relevant to discrimination against Asian Americans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You really think HYPS are going to be forced to turn into 90% soulless Asian grinds?

Maybe we should subpoena Tiger parents phone and email records to see if they paid an essay writer, college consultant, cram shop for exam data, and on and on.

Tell me how international kids can't speak a lick of English yet write flawless common app essays and score perfectly on the SAT.

+1000

Honestly, this. What will happen is that these schools will begin looking for traits that are not academic to get more white people on campus.

Look, I worked in biglaw and saw it as clearly as day. All of sudden no one cares about grades or writing ability when it comes to Asian attorneys. They get branded as too meek and lacking in "leadership" skills. Hence unqualified compared to white (mostly male) attorneys. Black and Latinos get labeled unqualified academically. You can't win at this and the whole exercise is just another chance to engineer the deck in favor of people it's always been.

+1