Is there any chance to change the high school boundary within 2-3 years? - especailly Oakton HS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely, OP.

My guess is South Lakes, Herndon, Oakton, Chantilly and Westfield will likely see a boundary change. From what I recall, it would be at the end of the Silver line and Carson and part of Franklin and part of Hughes and Herndon would feed into it.

It seems like once that high school is built, McLean would take on some of Stuart's overcrowding, Langley would absorb some of Marshall's and Mclean's island would likely go to Madison (so McLean could take on the additional capacity from Stuart) and some of Madison would go to Oakton since's there's more capacity due to the new high school.

Westfield would apparently relieve Centreville's overcrowding.

If you have a small kid in that part of the county, I'd expect to see some serious shifts.

There's no major boundary shift planned for the southern part of the county, but it's needed. I think the new high school would force the county's hand on the northern schools, though.

Read Carefully, PP.

OP asked about a boundary change IN THE NEXT 2-3 YEARS.

The answer to that is NO.

[Anonymous]

The SB needs to look at the county as a whole. Small boundary changes here and there will not fix a problem that is county-wide. Just look at Springfield and Mount Vernon, where some HS are overcrowded and others are nearly empty.

[Anonymous]

There was a huge boundary change that involved Oakton high school around 2007/2008. So no, I don't think the boundaries for Oakton high will change within 2 to 3 years. It's too soon. Can you imagine moving to a certain district, and before your kid goes to high school, it gets changed not once but twice for your kids' high school? Parents would be very mad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely, OP.

My guess is South Lakes, Herndon, Oakton, Chantilly and Westfield will likely see a boundary change. From what I recall, it would be at the end of the Silver line and Carson and part of Franklin and part of Hughes and Herndon would feed into it.

It seems like once that high school is built, McLean would take on some of Stuart's overcrowding, Langley would absorb some of Marshall's and Mclean's island would likely go to Madison (so McLean could take on the additional capacity from Stuart) and some of Madison would go to Oakton since's there's more capacity due to the new high school.

Westfield would apparently relieve Centreville's overcrowding.

If you have a small kid in that part of the county, I'd expect to see some serious shifts.

There's no major boundary shift planned for the southern part of the county, but it's needed. I think the new high school would force the county's hand on the northern schools, though.

Oh and in terms of demographics, if this happens, McLean will look a lot more like Marshall, Langley will be basically the same (absent taking on some of Herndon's feeders), Madison and Oakton would be the same, South Lakes wouldn't change much (since Dogwood and Fox Mill would likely feed into the new school canceling each other out), Chantilly would be the same, and Westfield would look basically the same (with Coates now going to the new school). Marshall would lose some single family homes to Langley, but with Pimmit gentrifying and Tysons, would be the same.

The new school would take Coates, Fox Mill, Dogwood, McNair, Floris, Oak Hill. Parts of other feeders like Crossfield and Navy might feed into it. In terms of demographics, it would look like Marshall basically.

That's why I see the county giving in and doing the massive redistricting if they build that high school. No one is getting saddled and the demographics would even out while alleviating crowding.

Have they even designated a property yet? Once upon a time, the land next to Carson was designated--but FCPS sold it to the Saudi Academy because it wasn't large enough? Until they designate a location, I don't think we can assume anything. And, it is going to be a long, long time after the pick a location.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely, OP.

My guess is South Lakes, Herndon, Oakton, Chantilly and Westfield will likely see a boundary change. From what I recall, it would be at the end of the Silver line and Carson and part of Franklin and part of Hughes and Herndon would feed into it.

It seems like once that high school is built, McLean would take on some of Stuart's overcrowding, Langley would absorb some of Marshall's and Mclean's island would likely go to Madison (so McLean could take on the additional capacity from Stuart) and some of Madison would go to Oakton since's there's more capacity due to the new high school.

Westfield would apparently relieve Centreville's overcrowding.

If you have a small kid in that part of the county, I'd expect to see some serious shifts.

There's no major boundary shift planned for the southern part of the county, but it's needed. I think the new high school would force the county's hand on the northern schools, though.

Oh and in terms of demographics, if this happens, McLean will look a lot more like Marshall, Langley will be basically the same (absent taking on some of Herndon's feeders), Madison and Oakton would be the same, South Lakes wouldn't change much (since Dogwood and Fox Mill would likely feed into the new school canceling each other out), Chantilly would be the same, and Westfield would look basically the same (with Coates now going to the new school). Marshall would lose some single family homes to Langley, but with Pimmit gentrifying and Tysons, would be the same.

The new school would take Coates, Fox Mill, Dogwood, McNair, Floris, Oak Hill. Parts of other feeders like Crossfield and Navy might feed into it. In terms of demographics, it would look like Marshall basically.

That's why I see the county giving in and doing the massive redistricting if they build that high school. No one is getting saddled and the demographics would even out while alleviating crowding.

Have they even designated a property yet? Once upon a time, the land next to Carson was designated--but FCPS sold it to the Saudi Academy because it wasn't large enough? Until they designate a location, I don't think we can assume anything. And, it is going to be a long, long time after the pick a location.

Apparently -- and this is just gossip from people I know who work in central office -- the new superintendent will be leading this and it will likely find its way into the CIP in a more concrete way in the next few years.

The issue isn't just the Dulles Corridor which would get the new school. It's apparently the JEB Stuart bubble. There are a metric ton of children in the feeders and the school needs serious capacity relief. And expansion on the property apparently is really expensive and not looking feasible long term.

The internal discussions seem to focus on figuring out a way to shift things around while not freaking parents out and running into crazy opposition. Hence the new school, which would track Marshall's demographics and have minimal impact on the other schools.

[Anonymous]

I don't care which high school my kids go to, its just that I prefer they go to the same high school as their ES and MS classmates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There was a huge boundary change that involved Oakton high school around 2007/2008. So no, I don't think the boundaries for Oakton high will change within 2 to 3 years. It's too soon. Can you imagine moving to a certain district, and before your kid goes to high school, it gets changed not once but twice for your kids' high school? Parents would be very mad.

There was also a boundary change that involved Oakton when Westfield opened. (2000)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was a huge boundary change that involved Oakton high school around 2007/2008. So no, I don't think the boundaries for Oakton high will change within 2 to 3 years. It's too soon. Can you imagine moving to a certain district, and before your kid goes to high school, it gets changed not once but twice for your kids' high school? Parents would be very mad.

There was also a boundary change that involved Oakton when Westfield opened. (2000)

This proposed change would likely hit in ten years. So, it's not like they are yo-yoing.

[Anonymous]

This proposed change would likely hit in ten years. So, it's not like they are yo-yoing.

Talk to the Floris people about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

This proposed change would likely hit in ten years. So, it's not like they are yo-yoing.

Talk to the Floris people about that.

Under the proposed change, the Floris people would finally have a dedicated pyramid and not being moved because Carson and the potential site are both nearby.

[Anonymous]

In FCPS ES feed to different MS and MS feed to different HS. Why is the one poster so hung up on this fact of reality. If you want all feeding to one, move to falls church city. Otherwise, accept your reality!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In FCPS ES feed to different MS and MS feed to different HS. Why is the one poster so hung up on this fact of reality. If you want all feeding to one, move to falls church city. Otherwise, accept your reality!

Actually almost all of them are single feeders. The county would like to accomplish this across the board, but it's impossible due to fluctuations in student pop. The area by the silver line where the new high school is the biggest culprit. Carson splits in a bunch of places. With the new school, it would be a single feeder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely, OP.

My guess is South Lakes, Herndon, Oakton, Chantilly and Westfield will likely see a boundary change. From what I recall, it would be at the end of the Silver line and Carson and part of Franklin and part of Hughes and Herndon would feed into it.

It seems like once that high school is built, McLean would take on some of Stuart's overcrowding, Langley would absorb some of Marshall's and Mclean's island would likely go to Madison (so McLean could take on the additional capacity from Stuart) and some of Madison would go to Oakton since's there's more capacity due to the new high school.

Westfield would apparently relieve Centreville's overcrowding.

If you have a small kid in that part of the county, I'd expect to see some serious shifts.

There's no major boundary shift planned for the southern part of the county, but it's needed. I think the new high school would force the county's hand on the northern schools, though.

Oh and in terms of demographics, if this happens, McLean will look a lot more like Marshall, Langley will be basically the same (absent taking on some of Herndon's feeders), Madison and Oakton would be the same, South Lakes wouldn't change much (since Dogwood and Fox Mill would likely feed into the new school canceling each other out), Chantilly would be the same, and Westfield would look basically the same (with Coates now going to the new school). Marshall would lose some single family homes to Langley, but with Pimmit gentrifying and Tysons, would be the same.

The new school would take Coates, Fox Mill, Dogwood, McNair, Floris, Oak Hill. Parts of other feeders like Crossfield and Navy might feed into it. In terms of demographics, it would look like Marshall basically.

That's why I see the county giving in and doing the massive redistricting if they build that high school. No one is getting saddled and the demographics would even out while alleviating crowding.

There's no feasible scenario where Stuart kids would be moved to McLean (both Falls Church and Marshall are closer) or that a Dranesville representative on the School Board would allow the FARMS rate at McLean to double while leaving Langley's largely unchanged.

The poverty at Stuart is heavily concentrated in the eastern areas that border Arlington and Alexandria. As a result, the solution for Stuart is to expand its capacity. Otherwise you'd end up redistributing single-family neighborhoods to other schools and turning a 65% FARMS school into a 75% or 85% FARMS school that would always be at risk of losing its accreditation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely, OP.

My guess is South Lakes, Herndon, Oakton, Chantilly and Westfield will likely see a boundary change. From what I recall, it would be at the end of the Silver line and Carson and part of Franklin and part of Hughes and Herndon would feed into it.

It seems like once that high school is built, McLean would take on some of Stuart's overcrowding, Langley would absorb some of Marshall's and Mclean's island would likely go to Madison (so McLean could take on the additional capacity from Stuart) and some of Madison would go to Oakton since's there's more capacity due to the new high school.

Westfield would apparently relieve Centreville's overcrowding.

If you have a small kid in that part of the county, I'd expect to see some serious shifts.

There's no major boundary shift planned for the southern part of the county, but it's needed. I think the new high school would force the county's hand on the northern schools, though.

Oh and in terms of demographics, if this happens, McLean will look a lot more like Marshall, Langley will be basically the same (absent taking on some of Herndon's feeders), Madison and Oakton would be the same, South Lakes wouldn't change much (since Dogwood and Fox Mill would likely feed into the new school canceling each other out), Chantilly would be the same, and Westfield would look basically the same (with Coates now going to the new school). Marshall would lose some single family homes to Langley, but with Pimmit gentrifying and Tysons, would be the same.

The new school would take Coates, Fox Mill, Dogwood, McNair, Floris, Oak Hill. Parts of other feeders like Crossfield and Navy might feed into it. In terms of demographics, it would look like Marshall basically.

That's why I see the county giving in and doing the massive redistricting if they build that high school. No one is getting saddled and the demographics would even out while alleviating crowding.

There's no feasible scenario where Stuart kids would be moved to McLean (both Falls Church and Marshall are closer) or that a Dranesville representative on the School Board would allow the FARMS rate at McLean to double while leaving Langley's largely unchanged.

The poverty at Stuart is heavily concentrated in the eastern areas that border Arlington and Alexandria. As a result, the solution for Stuart is to expand its capacity. Otherwise you'd end up redistributing single-family neighborhoods to other schools and turning a 65% FARMS school into a 75% or 85% FARMS school that would always be at risk of losing its accreditation.

Or just enforce occupancy laws.

[Anonymous]

Bingo!!!