Our so-called democracy is a farse

[Anonymous]

Until we stop politicizing this and really work together and set politics aside, Putin wins.
This is for both sides. Right now, mainly GOP, but Dems have a role in this too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/democracy-is-not-your-plaything-1495149082

Mr. Trump’s longtime foes, especially Democrats and progressives, are in the throes of a kind of obsessive delight. Every new blunder, every suggestion of an illegality, gives them pleasure. “He’ll be gone by autumn.”

But he was duly and legally elected by tens of millions of Americans who had legitimate reasons to support him, who knew they were throwing the long ball, and who, polls suggest, continue to support him. They believe the press is trying to kill him. “He’s new, not a politician, give him a chance.” What would it do to them, what would it say to them, to have him brusquely removed by his enemies after so little time? Would it tell them democracy is a con, the swamp always wins, you nobodies can make your little choices but we’re in control? What will that do to their faith in our institutions, in democracy itself?"

But there’s an emerging sense of tragedy, isn’t there? Crucially needed reforms in taxing, regulation and infrastructure—changes the country needs!—are thwarted, all momentum killed. Markets are nervous.

The world sees the U.S. political system once again as a circus. Once the circus comes to town, it consumes everything, absorbs all energy.

I asked the ambassador to the U.S. from one of our greatest allies: “What does Europe say now when America leaves the room?” You’re still great, he said, but “we think you’re having a nervous breakdown.”

Well, for the 3 million more of us who voted for the other candidate, having him removed so quickly would be an indication that our checks and balances work and that our constitution is strong and that this country will not stand by and watch grift and corruption destroy it.

Trump, by the way, was not elected by a democracy. He was elected by the electoral system. The majority of voters voted for someone else.

As for giving him "a chance" - he had it and he blew it starting from day one.

He won 84% of the counties.

If you don't like him, vote him out in 4 years. You had your chance on November 8, you lost. Get over it.

I am over it. And now I'm enjoying watching his presidency implode.

By the way, the percentage of counties voting for a candidate doesn't have anything to do with the definition of democracy. Look it up.

Neither does the meaningless 3 million more votes in California.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/democracy-is-not-your-plaything-1495149082

Mr. Trump’s longtime foes, especially Democrats and progressives, are in the throes of a kind of obsessive delight. Every new blunder, every suggestion of an illegality, gives them pleasure. “He’ll be gone by autumn.”

But he was duly and legally elected by tens of millions of Americans who had legitimate reasons to support him, who knew they were throwing the long ball, and who, polls suggest, continue to support him. They believe the press is trying to kill him. “He’s new, not a politician, give him a chance.” What would it do to them, what would it say to them, to have him brusquely removed by his enemies after so little time? Would it tell them democracy is a con, the swamp always wins, you nobodies can make your little choices but we’re in control? What will that do to their faith in our institutions, in democracy itself?"

But there’s an emerging sense of tragedy, isn’t there? Crucially needed reforms in taxing, regulation and infrastructure—changes the country needs!—are thwarted, all momentum killed. Markets are nervous.

The world sees the U.S. political system once again as a circus. Once the circus comes to town, it consumes everything, absorbs all energy.

I asked the ambassador to the U.S. from one of our greatest allies: “What does Europe say now when America leaves the room?” You’re still great, he said, but “we think you’re having a nervous breakdown.”

Well, for the 3 million more of us who voted for the other candidate, having him removed so quickly would be an indication that our checks and balances work and that our constitution is strong and that this country will not stand by and watch grift and corruption destroy it.

Trump, by the way, was not elected by a democracy. He was elected by the electoral system. The majority of voters voted for someone else.

As for giving him "a chance" - he had it and he blew it starting from day one.

He won 84% of the counties.

If you don't like him, vote him out in 4 years. You had your chance on November 8, you lost. Get over it.

I am over it. And now I'm enjoying watching his presidency implode.

By the way, the percentage of counties voting for a candidate doesn't have anything to do with the definition of democracy. Look it up.

Neither does the meaningless 3 million more votes in California.

Why are winners whining so much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/democracy-is-not-your-plaything-1495149082

Mr. Trump’s longtime foes, especially Democrats and progressives, are in the throes of a kind of obsessive delight. Every new blunder, every suggestion of an illegality, gives them pleasure. “He’ll be gone by autumn.”

But he was duly and legally elected by tens of millions of Americans who had legitimate reasons to support him, who knew they were throwing the long ball, and who, polls suggest, continue to support him. They believe the press is trying to kill him. “He’s new, not a politician, give him a chance.” What would it do to them, what would it say to them, to have him brusquely removed by his enemies after so little time? Would it tell them democracy is a con, the swamp always wins, you nobodies can make your little choices but we’re in control? What will that do to their faith in our institutions, in democracy itself?"

But there’s an emerging sense of tragedy, isn’t there? Crucially needed reforms in taxing, regulation and infrastructure—changes the country needs!—are thwarted, all momentum killed. Markets are nervous.

The world sees the U.S. political system once again as a circus. Once the circus comes to town, it consumes everything, absorbs all energy.

I asked the ambassador to the U.S. from one of our greatest allies: “What does Europe say now when America leaves the room?” You’re still great, he said, but “we think you’re having a nervous breakdown.”

Well, for the 3 million more of us who voted for the other candidate, having him removed so quickly would be an indication that our checks and balances work and that our constitution is strong and that this country will not stand by and watch grift and corruption destroy it.

Trump, by the way, was not elected by a democracy. He was elected by the electoral system. The majority of voters voted for someone else.

As for giving him "a chance" - he had it and he blew it starting from day one.

He won 84% of the counties.

If you don't like him, vote him out in 4 years. You had your chance on November 8, you lost. Get over it.

I am over it. And now I'm enjoying watching his presidency implode.

By the way, the percentage of counties voting for a candidate doesn't have anything to do with the definition of democracy. Look it up.

Neither does the meaningless 3 million more votes in California.

The 3 million people you just disenfranchised beg to differ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/democracy-is-not-your-plaything-1495149082

Mr. Trump’s longtime foes, especially Democrats and progressives, are in the throes of a kind of obsessive delight. Every new blunder, every suggestion of an illegality, gives them pleasure. “He’ll be gone by autumn.”

But he was duly and legally elected by tens of millions of Americans who had legitimate reasons to support him, who knew they were throwing the long ball, and who, polls suggest, continue to support him. They believe the press is trying to kill him. “He’s new, not a politician, give him a chance.” What would it do to them, what would it say to them, to have him brusquely removed by his enemies after so little time? Would it tell them democracy is a con, the swamp always wins, you nobodies can make your little choices but we’re in control? What will that do to their faith in our institutions, in democracy itself?"

But there’s an emerging sense of tragedy, isn’t there? Crucially needed reforms in taxing, regulation and infrastructure—changes the country needs!—are thwarted, all momentum killed. Markets are nervous.

The world sees the U.S. political system once again as a circus. Once the circus comes to town, it consumes everything, absorbs all energy.

I asked the ambassador to the U.S. from one of our greatest allies: “What does Europe say now when America leaves the room?” You’re still great, he said, but “we think you’re having a nervous breakdown.”

Well, for the 3 million more of us who voted for the other candidate, having him removed so quickly would be an indication that our checks and balances work and that our constitution is strong and that this country will not stand by and watch grift and corruption destroy it.

Trump, by the way, was not elected by a democracy. He was elected by the electoral system. The majority of voters voted for someone else.

As for giving him "a chance" - he had it and he blew it starting from day one.

He won 84% of the counties.

If you don't like him, vote him out in 4 years. You had your chance on November 8, you lost. Get over it.

I am over it. And now I'm enjoying watching his presidency implode.

By the way, the percentage of counties voting for a candidate doesn't have anything to do with the definition of democracy. Look it up.

Neither does the meaningless 3 million more votes in California.

If this country were a pure democracy, those 3 million more votes would have meant HRC was president. But we're not a democracy in that way, so Peggy Noonan should stop whining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:See, this is the boo-hoo woe is me special snowflake mentality that Republicans need to get over. It is killing this presidency.

The only one hurting Trump voter is Trump. The only one delegitimizing the Trump presidency is Trump. He is suffering death by a thousand paper cuts. But every single one is self inflicted.

For example, he could, say, NOT TWEET. He could not tell a journalist on live TV that he fired Comey over Russia. He could not fire Comey in the first place. He could have not hired someone whom he knew to be compromised by Russia for NSA. And then refused to fire them when it came to light. But he chose to do all these things. And many more.

I am over the poor downtrodden voiceless Trump voter and poor victimizied Trump narrative. Trump voters made a terrible choice and crammed it down America's throats in a minority vote. If they did want Her, they should have chosen someone who wasn't a dumpsterfire as their nominee. And Trump has made a never ending series of terrible choices.

And now Trump and the poor, beleaguered Trump voter need to STFU, stop playing world's smallest violin, and realize that actions and elections have consequences.

But quit whining. You won!

We crammed the winner of the presidency down America's throat? How so? By proceeding with his subsequent inauguration instead of ceding to the winner of the popular vote like we were supposed to according to the Constitution?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:See, this is the boo-hoo woe is me special snowflake mentality that Republicans need to get over. It is killing this presidency.

The only one hurting Trump voter is Trump. The only one delegitimizing the Trump presidency is Trump. He is suffering death by a thousand paper cuts. But every single one is self inflicted.

For example, he could, say, NOT TWEET. He could not tell a journalist on live TV that he fired Comey over Russia. He could not fire Comey in the first place. He could have not hired someone whom he knew to be compromised by Russia for NSA. And then refused to fire them when it came to light. But he chose to do all these things. And many more.

I am over the poor downtrodden voiceless Trump voter and poor victimizied Trump narrative. Trump voters made a terrible choice and crammed it down America's throats in a minority vote. If they did want Her, they should have chosen someone who wasn't a dumpsterfire as their nominee. And Trump has made a never ending series of terrible choices.

And now Trump and the poor, beleaguered Trump voter need to STFU, stop playing world's smallest violin, and realize that actions and elections have consequences.

But quit whining. You won!

+1

[Anonymous]

The reason we have an electoral college is so California and New York don't decide the presidential election by themselves. The fact that Clinton won the popular vote is *meaningless*. You constantly harp on that as if it proves something, but it does not, all the more so since almost all of the 3 million votes Clinton won by came from California. California doesn't elect our president. We all do.

[Anonymous]

Trump did not win the majority of American voters so no - he did not win in a democracy. Happy?

[Anonymous]

The number one threat to our "democracy"/democratic republic is how much money is in politics. We need campaign finance reform desperately, on all sides.

[Anonymous]

One of these days he electoral college will choose someone other than the one voted for. It's because we are not a democracy.

[Anonymous]

I'm just waiting for when I can do the grace Adler "told ya so!" Dance in front of the White House

I will feel so damn vindicated when these evil fucks all lose their jobs.

And don't even get me started on the electoral college....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump did not win the majority of American voters so no - he did not win in a democracy. Happy?

Of course not. Because they are whiny little bitches.

[Anonymous]

If there's a circus, blame the Ringmaster, not the audience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump did not win the majority of American voters so no - he did not win in a democracy. Happy?

+1. We are a republic. Trump won because we are NOT a democracy. God I wish you people took civics.