Jurist reports: Maryland House approves bill to limit local immigration enforcement

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The liberals have gone bat-$hit crazy.

+1

I saw the light last year. Went from blue to red. Took a lot but illegal immigration pushed me over the edge.

Good for you. I had a choice 16 years ago whether to build in VA or MD. I chose VA due to them being more conservative. While No. VA has gone blue and has changed dramatically as a whole, I have been living in a redder enclave. Eventually I hope to get out altogether, though I also have hope that the Trump administration will push us back from the edge of immigration disaster.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hope Hogan vetoes.

+100

I believe he said he would.

[Anonymous]

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1. bar police statewide from checking the immigration status of individuals they arrest or 2. from stopping an individual for the purposes of suspected immigration violations. 3. The bill would also prevent police from detaining these individuals longer than otherwise warranted at the request of federal agents seeking to deport them.

I agree with #2 only. Police shouldn't be using racial profiling to stop "suspected illegal immigrants". How can you tell just by looking whether someone is one?

#1 - only if they do so with *everyone* they stop and not just those with brown skin and/or with accents
#3 - totally disagree with

One of the issues I have with your statement, is that if those individuals are acting suspiciously enough for police to stop them, will liberals make their definition of #1 so lenient that #1 is a constant cry of outrage, not allowing officers to effectively do their jobs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

1. bar police statewide from checking the immigration status of individuals they arrest or 2. from stopping an individual for the purposes of suspected immigration violations. 3. The bill would also prevent police from detaining these individuals longer than otherwise warranted at the request of federal agents seeking to deport them.

I agree with #2 only. Police shouldn't be using racial profiling to stop "suspected illegal immigrants". How can you tell just by looking whether someone is one?

#1 - only if they do so with *everyone* they stop and not just those with brown skin and/or with accents
#3 - totally disagree with

One of the issues I have with your statement, is that if those individuals are acting suspiciously enough for police to stop them, will liberals make their definition of #1 so lenient that #1 is a constant cry of outrage, not allowing officers to effectively do their jobs?

The way #2 reads is that the cops can stop anyone for the suspicion of being an illegal immigrant. #1 is what you are referring to - stopping someone for some other suspicious activity. Like I stated, if they stop someone for suspicious activity (having brown skin and hanging out in front of a home depot is not suspicious activity), and check *everyone* they stop for ID then that's fine. But, you have to be careful, because there have been cases where the state passed such laws, and law enforcement were stopping and detaining business folks from other countries.

There was that one case in the south where they detained a Japanese national, and another case, German national. They were businesses execs from those countries that had car manufacturing plants in that state. It was bad for businesses, so the county (or state, can't remember) had to change those laws because it was quite an embarrassement. And what about tourists?

Given that this area has tons of embassy and other foreign workers, it would be a nightmare if they stopped and detained anyone who wasn't carrying some kind of ID that showed they had legal resident status. People don't carry around their visas. When I go travel to certain countries, I leave my passport in the hotel safe.

#2 is just a bad idea. Makes our country a police state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

1. bar police statewide from checking the immigration status of individuals they arrest or 2. from stopping an individual for the purposes of suspected immigration violations. 3. The bill would also prevent police from detaining these individuals longer than otherwise warranted at the request of federal agents seeking to deport them.

I agree with #2 only. Police shouldn't be using racial profiling to stop "suspected illegal immigrants". How can you tell just by looking whether someone is one?

#1 - only if they do so with *everyone* they stop and not just those with brown skin and/or with accents
#3 - totally disagree with

One of the issues I have with your statement, is that if those individuals are acting suspiciously enough for police to stop them, will liberals make their definition of #1 so lenient that #1 is a constant cry of outrage, not allowing officers to effectively do their jobs?

The way #2 reads is that the cops can stop anyone for the suspicion of being an illegal immigrant. #1 is what you are referring to - stopping someone for some other suspicious activity. Like I stated, if they stop someone for suspicious activity (having brown skin and hanging out in front of a home depot is not suspicious activity), and check *everyone* they stop for ID then that's fine. But, you have to be careful, because there have been cases where the state passed such laws, and law enforcement were stopping and detaining business folks from other countries.

There was that one case in the south where they detained a Japanese national, and another case, German national. They were businesses execs from those countries that had car manufacturing plants in that state. It was bad for businesses, so the county (or state, can't remember) had to change those laws because it was quite an embarrassement. And what about tourists?

Given that this area has tons of embassy and other foreign workers, it would be a nightmare if they stopped and detained anyone who wasn't carrying some kind of ID that showed they had legal resident status. People don't carry around their visas. When I go travel to certain countries, I leave my passport in the hotel safe.

#2 is just a bad idea. Makes our country a police state.

Agree. If you're in favor of #2, you're in favor of Stop and Frisk, which is a clear violation of the 4th amendment and American values.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The liberals have gone bat-$hit crazy.

+1

I saw the light last year. Went from blue to red. Took a lot but illegal immigration pushed me over the edge.

Good for you. I had a choice 16 years ago whether to build in VA or MD. I chose VA due to them being more conservative. While No. VA has gone blue and has changed dramatically as a whole, I have been living in a redder enclave. Eventually I hope to get out altogether, though I also have hope that the Trump administration will push us back from the edge of immigration disaster.

Invasion is what it is. Let's be clear.