Do "believers" only believe because they are conforming? [ATHEISTS ONLY]

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to hear from atheists only, the Religion board may not be the best place for you. But you knew that.

I wonder how quick it will take Jeff to delete this troll thread.

Well if he's going to start deleting, then he has his work cut out for him on the other thread.

You yourself just admitted it's merely a retaliation thread. You've also tried to prevent other people from answering. I think you'll find your attempt at trolling is not turning out the way you'd hoped

See - here is where usernames would come in handy. I didn't say that it was a retaliation thread. Just saying that this thread has a similar tone to others. If this one is deleted then the others should be deleted too. I didn't ask to delete those.

And who have I prevented from answering?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to hear from atheists only, the Religion board may not be the best place for you. But you knew that.

I wonder how quick it will take Jeff to delete this troll thread.

Well if he's going to start deleting, then he has his work cut out for him on the other thread.

You yourself just admitted it's merely a retaliation thread. You've also tried to prevent other people from answering. I think you'll find your attempt at trolling is not turning out the way you'd hoped

See - here is where usernames would come in handy. I didn't say that it was a retaliation thread. Just saying that this thread has a similar tone to others. If this one is deleted then the others should be deleted too. I didn't ask to delete those.

And who have I prevented from answering?

"Believers"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to hear from atheists only, the Religion board may not be the best place for you. But you knew that.

I wonder how quick it will take Jeff to delete this troll thread.

Well if he's going to start deleting, then he has his work cut out for him on the other thread.

You yourself just admitted it's merely a retaliation thread. You've also tried to prevent other people from answering. I think you'll find your attempt at trolling is not turning out the way you'd hoped

See - here is where usernames would come in handy. I didn't say that it was a retaliation thread. Just saying that this thread has a similar tone to others. If this one is deleted then the others should be deleted too. I didn't ask to delete those.

And who have I prevented from answering?

"Believers"

So atheists can't discuss amongst themselves? What's wrong with that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to hear from atheists only, the Religion board may not be the best place for you. But you knew that.

I wonder how quick it will take Jeff to delete this troll thread.

Well if he's going to start deleting, then he has his work cut out for him on the other thread.

You yourself just admitted it's merely a retaliation thread. You've also tried to prevent other people from answering. I think you'll find your attempt at trolling is not turning out the way you'd hoped

See - here is where usernames would come in handy. I didn't say that it was a retaliation thread. Just saying that this thread has a similar tone to others. If this one is deleted then the others should be deleted too. I didn't ask to delete those.

And who have I prevented from answering?

"Believers"

So atheists can't discuss amongst themselves? What's wrong with that?

Just answering the question "And who have I prevented from answering?"

The whole clueless act is running kind of thin. It's very obvious to everyone what you're doing. Though I don't think anyone particularly cares, it's NAGL for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to hear from atheists only, the Religion board may not be the best place for you. But you knew that.

I wonder how quick it will take Jeff to delete this troll thread.

Well if he's going to start deleting, then he has his work cut out for him on the other thread.

You yourself just admitted it's merely a retaliation thread. You've also tried to prevent other people from answering. I think you'll find your attempt at trolling is not turning out the way you'd hoped

See - here is where usernames would come in handy. I didn't say that it was a retaliation thread. Just saying that this thread has a similar tone to others. If this one is deleted then the others should be deleted too. I didn't ask to delete those.

And who have I prevented from answering?

"Believers"

So atheists can't discuss amongst themselves? What's wrong with that?

Just answering the question "And who have I prevented from answering?"

The whole clueless act is running kind of thin. It's very obvious to everyone what you're doing. Though I don't think anyone particularly cares, it's NAGL for you.

Why in your opinion do you feel entitled to inject your input into a discussion by people who do not see the world as you do?

The mere fact that you don't think other people are entitled to have their own opinions without your input (thanks anyway) is interesting. I'm not allowed to formulate my opinion about something unless you tell me what to think first? Is that how it goes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to hear from atheists only, the Religion board may not be the best place for you. But you knew that.

I wonder how quick it will take Jeff to delete this troll thread.

Well if he's going to start deleting, then he has his work cut out for him on the other thread.

You yourself just admitted it's merely a retaliation thread. You've also tried to prevent other people from answering. I think you'll find your attempt at trolling is not turning out the way you'd hoped

See - here is where usernames would come in handy. I didn't say that it was a retaliation thread. Just saying that this thread has a similar tone to others. If this one is deleted then the others should be deleted too. I didn't ask to delete those.

And who have I prevented from answering?

"Believers"

So atheists can't discuss amongst themselves? What's wrong with that?

Just answering the question "And who have I prevented from answering?"

The whole clueless act is running kind of thin. It's very obvious to everyone what you're doing. Though I don't think anyone particularly cares, it's NAGL for you.

Why in your opinion do you feel entitled to inject your input into a discussion by people who do not see the world as you do?

The mere fact that you don't think other people are entitled to have their own opinions without your input (thanks anyway) is interesting. I'm not allowed to formulate my opinion about something unless you tell me what to think first? Is that how it goes?

The level of projection is astounding. You have a very creative interpretation of words

[Anonymous]

I was raised by atheists in a predominantly atheist/agnostic community, and am a believer now. Common enough story in e.g. communist atheist societies.

[Anonymous]

It is WAY too late for this level of meta discussion. This was a parody right? And the folks pretending to take it seriously are doing so ironically?

Or are there just two posters (or 1 sock puppet) who like to go after one another and some collateral damage from innocent bystanders who walked into the middle of this mess?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:***This is a discussion just for atheists, so please do not chime in if you believe in religion/god(s).***

I was not brought up with any religion so I was never taught to believe in any particular god(s)/religion. From my observations, it does seem like most people who are brought up in families that practice even some limited amount of religion do end up practicing the same, or similar, religion. Are they just doing this to conform? What motivates them to do this?

I'm trying to form an opinion on my own here with the help of other atheists.

Many people are taught to believe in their religion as young, impressionable children who have no choice about what to believe. Once they grow up, they often switch religions or leave religion entirely. I'd guess most atheists today were once religious, because they went to church as children.

I've met some people who were raised with a religion but never believed in it. They thought it sounded far fetched, but they went along with it, because they didn't have a choice and realized early on that making cracks about what they were learning in church didn't go over well

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:***This is a discussion just for atheists, so please do not chime in if you believe in religion/god(s).***

I was not brought up with any religion so I was never taught to believe in any particular god(s)/religion. From my observations, it does seem like most people who are brought up in families that practice even some limited amount of religion do end up practicing the same, or similar, religion. Are they just doing this to conform? What motivates them to do this?

I'm trying to form an opinion on my own here with the help of other atheists.

Many people are taught to believe in their religion as young, impressionable children who have no choice about what to believe. Once they grow up, they often switch religions or leave religion entirely. I'd guess most atheists today were once religious, because they went to church as children.

I've met some people who were raised with a religion but never believed in it. They thought it sounded far fetched, but they went along with it, because they didn't have a choice and realized early on that making cracks about what they were learning in church didn't go over well

So from you've observed not many people feel bound by what their parents taught them? Most people feel unconstrained enough to choose for themselves, one way or another?

Do you think there are certain personality qualities that affect how likely a person is to choose something different from their upbringing?

[Anonymous]

Atheist here. I can imagine someone growing up with faith could like things about their faith or church and it wouldn't really be conforming, just a deepening attachment to faith.

TBH I think the ones who conform are the ones who become very religious adults after stepping into religion for the first time, because sometimes it is out of grief or loneliness. Maybe for a sense of belonging.

[Anonymous]

Whybare atheists starting threads in the religion forum?

Don't they believe religion ie nonsense? Why the obsession?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whybare atheists starting threads in the religion forum?

Don't they believe religion ie nonsense? Why the obsession?

IDK this whole mess started in another thread. With an OP who read on another forum that Jesus would have been atheist because he was a "nonconformist."

So OP, why pick on us atheists? Instead of starting a "was Jesus a nonconformist?" topic, your thread was titled "are atheists nonconformists" which did diddly squat to answer your question in the first place

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:***This is a discussion just for atheists, so please do not chime in if you believe in religion/god(s).***

I was not brought up with any religion so I was never taught to believe in any particular god(s)/religion. From my observations, it does seem like most people who are brought up in families that practice even some limited amount of religion do end up practicing the same, or similar, religion. Are they just doing this to conform? What motivates them to do this?

I'm trying to form an opinion on my own here with the help of other atheists.

Many people are taught to believe in their religion as young, impressionable children who have no choice about what to believe. Once they grow up, they often switch religions or leave religion entirely. I'd guess most atheists today were once religious, because they went to church as children.

I've met some people who were raised with a religion but never believed in it. They thought it sounded far fetched, but they went along with it, because they didn't have a choice and realized early on that making cracks about what they were learning in church didn't go over well

So from you've observed not many people feel bound by what their parents taught them? Most people feel unconstrained enough to choose for themselves, one way or another?

Do you think there are certain personality qualities that affect how likely a person is to choose something different from their upbringing?

People change a lot of things when they become adults and can think and act for themselves. Some choose to live in a different climate or different urban/rural setting, to pursue a career their parents never thought of or wouldn't approve of. Some people develop very different political leanings than their parents had, or pursue different interests or hobbies. It all seems to be a part of personality development and adapting to changing environments. Religious beliefs are just one of many things that develop and can change as people mature and respond to the world around them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to hear from atheists only, the Religion board may not be the best place for you. But you knew that.

I wonder how quick it will take Jeff to delete this troll thread.

Well if he's going to start deleting, then he has his work cut out for him on the other thread.

You yourself just admitted it's merely a retaliation thread. You've also tried to prevent other people from answering. I think you'll find your attempt at trolling is not turning out the way you'd hoped

See - here is where usernames would come in handy. I didn't say that it was a retaliation thread. Just saying that this thread has a similar tone to others. If this one is deleted then the others should be deleted too. I didn't ask to delete those.

And who have I prevented from answering?

"Believers"

So atheists can't discuss amongst themselves? What's wrong with that?

Just answering the question "And who have I prevented from answering?"

The whole clueless act is running kind of thin. It's very obvious to everyone what you're doing. Though I don't think anyone particularly cares, it's NAGL for you.

Why in your opinion do you feel entitled to inject your input into a discussion by people who do not see the world as you do?

The mere fact that you don't think other people are entitled to have their own opinions without your input (thanks anyway) is interesting. I'm not allowed to formulate my opinion about something unless you tell me what to think first? Is that how it goes?

Well that is how religion works, right.