Gary Johnson/Libertarian party's support

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Anonymous wrote:it's embarrassing but doesn't disqualify his candidacy. foreign policy matters very very little in presidential elex. matters beyond mexico, canada, europe and china, most just don't care.

I agree with this ...... most Americans don't even know policy intricacies. They want someone who appears to be a man.

Trump wins on that account - he is perceived as having a penis.

Sorry. Couldn't resist a FTFY.

[Anonymous]

Johnson voters don't care about foreign policy because they believe America shouldn't get involved in anthing beyond our borders. Johnson would essentially dismantle the military and pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist. "What is Aleppo?" "Who cares?"

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Anonymous wrote:Johnson voters don't care about foreign policy because they believe America shouldn't get involved in anthing beyond our borders. Johnson would essentially dismantle the military and pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist. "What is Aleppo?" "Who cares?"

I really don't like the extent to which we get involved overseas, but WWII could have ended so poorly for us and the Allies when we weren't able to hit the ground running.

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Anonymous wrote:Clinton benefits because more of Johnson's supporters are Republicans who don't like Trump.

But you are assuming their fall back would be Clinton as opposed to just sitting out the election or holding their noses and voting for Trump.

When you get in that polling place, you are by yourself. Clinton has been the conservative boogies woman for 30 years now. I don't see many republicans pulling the level for her. This will be a very low turn out election. It could go either way. The polling assumptions are based on the turn out of past presidential election years. The low turn out will make it more like a midterm election. This will make the polling unreliable. Look for a lot of polls to be wrong and many people to skip the election. Both canidates are around 60% in their disapproval numbers. Normal every day people just don't show up for 60% disapproval numbers.

You must have missed this 15-page thread. There are hundreds of prominent Republicans who are going to vote for Hillary. Some of them have endorsed her and are even campaigning for her.
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/573782.page

You are crazy if you think any of the base of the Republican Party will vote for Hillary. Seriously there are a few Washington insiders who will, but they are not really republicans, more like courtiers seeking advantage. They really do not care who wins as long as they make money. There is more money to be made with Clinton vs Trump. There is a huge difference between what passed as the party leadership and the rank and file. Guess what, the rank and file out numbers the courtiers by tens of thousands. You really need to stop hoping and wishing the republicans are going to turn their back on Trump. They voted for him in the primaries, they will vote for him in the general. The only things that matters are turnout and independents in swing states...not what old man George Will writes about in a paper no one reads.

Doesn't matter. If only a small percentage of Republicans vote for Clinton or stay home, that translates into a big loss for Trump.

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I'll be voting for Johnson.

Why would I vote for Hillary? She's a corporatist that will be for sale on every decision, including who from Goldman Sachs sleeps in the Lincoln bedroom. No thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who would lose respect/fail to support a candidate who slipped up on a significant policy topic likely would support the remaining candidate who has policy knowledge and proven international experience. That would be Hillary Clinton.

This is an excellent point.

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Anonymous wrote:Clinton benefits because more of Johnson's supporters are Republicans who don't like Trump.

But you are assuming their fall back would be Clinton as opposed to just sitting out the election or holding their noses and voting for Trump.

When you get in that polling place, you are by yourself. Clinton has been the conservative boogies woman for 30 years now. I don't see many republicans pulling the level for her. This will be a very low turn out election. It could go either way. The polling assumptions are based on the turn out of past presidential election years. The low turn out will make it more like a midterm election. This will make the polling unreliable. Look for a lot of polls to be wrong and many people to skip the election. Both canidates are around 60% in their disapproval numbers. Normal every day people just don't show up for 60% disapproval numbers.

You must have missed this 15-page thread. There are hundreds of prominent Republicans who are going to vote for Hillary. Some of them have endorsed her and are even campaigning for her.
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/573782.page

You are crazy if you think any of the base of the Republican Party will vote for Hillary. Seriously there are a few Washington insiders who will, but they are not really republicans, more like courtiers seeking advantage. They really do not care who wins as long as they make money. There is more money to be made with Clinton vs Trump. There is a huge difference between what passed as the party leadership and the rank and file. Guess what, the rank and file out numbers the courtiers by tens of thousands. You really need to stop hoping and wishing the republicans are going to turn their back on Trump. They voted for him in the primaries, they will vote for him in the general. The only things that matters are turnout and independents in swing states...not what old man George Will writes about in a paper no one reads.

Read the thread, ignoramus. There are dozens people in there who have never voted for Democrats who will not vote for Trump. People who worked for Reagan. And more Republicans voted for other candidates in the primaries than voted for Trump.

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Yea, yea, yea.... same schmucks who say they'll move to Canada if Trump gets elected..

They never do. Just big mouths.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yea, yea, yea.... same schmucks who say they'll move to Canada if Trump gets elected..

They never do. Just big mouths.

Deny. Deny. Deny.

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Anonymous wrote:the ones who vote for Johnson will be the ones to blame if Trump wins the election. based on the polling differences over the past 2-3 weeks, the drop in HRC's numbers are countered by a commensurate rise in GJ's numbers, while Trump stays basically even.

so think about that long and hard - GJ's voters, you are actually enabling a Trump presidency.

Blame the people who supported both Trump and Clinton up to this point. The Rs had Rubio, Cruz, another Bush, and Kasich, who are all looking pretty good right now, eh? The D's had Bernie, a more honest candidate with a platform similar to Hillary's.

But Trump and Clinton came out ahead. So YOU who voted them in up to this point, who gave them your support up to this point are to blame. That includes Inds in states who could vote in primaries.

So yeah - the Inds - 40% - might change the results. I, however, am part of the 16% below.

The new poll finds the two major party candidates provoke large gaps by gender, age, race, education and partisanship. Among those likely to turn out in the fall, both candidates have secured about the same share of their own partisans (92% of Democrats back Clinton, 90% of Republicans are behind Trump) but independents give Trump an edge, 49% say they'd vote for him while just 29% of independent voters back Clinton. Another 16% back Johnson, 6% Stein.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/06/_politics-zone-injection/trump-vs-clinton-presidential-polls-election-2016/
Poll: Nine weeks out, a near even race

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My husband just said that country gets what it deserves.

I agree.

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I still plan to vote for him. Not because he's the best example of a libertarian but because I want more than our two party system and hope that if a libertarian candidate gets a significant portion of the vote that maybe the party can build on that for future elections. Not that it matters since I live in DC which will 99.9% go for Clinton anyway. That said, I've never voted for a democrat for a national election. I've either sat out when I couldn't stomach the choices (Bush v Gore) or voted republican.