average IQ at "big 3" schools

[Anonymous]

Classic DCUM post - no one has any data or expertise, but ready to weigh in.

[Anonymous]

Here are the IQ's on a continuum from low to high:

LOW IQ....Recruited Athlete < Alumni Child < CEO Child < URM < Full Pay, No Hook < Academic Scholarship....HIGH IQ

[Anonymous]

Hard to find a common metric to compare, because the private school kids aren't taking the same assessment tests as the FCPS elementary kids. On the WPPSI/ERB test, FWIW which might not be much, my kids are in the high 140s and low 150s, and my sense is most of the other kids are in that same general area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hard to find a common metric to compare, because the private school kids aren't taking the same assessment tests as the FCPS elementary kids. On the WPPSI/ERB test, FWIW which might not be much, my kids are in the high 140s and low 150s, and my sense is most of the other kids are in that same general area.

150 IQ is 1 in 1000. And you have multiples in your family, and 'most' of your school is also there. Truly amazing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have two daughters at Holton and they are bright, capable, engaged and happy - why would I care about an IQ score? Years ago when I tested for G&T in the 70's I recall my IQ was 137, which the public school needed to know in order to decide who got into the program. I'm glad my girls don't know their IQ because I think it's largely useless at a certain level. Poise and academic engagement are more important IMO.

+1. My daughters don't know their IQ scores either and I have no desire to ever get them tested. At a certain level (and pretty much all the students at a Big 3 meet this level), it becomes more about the student's intangibles - willingness to work hard, take risks, poise, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hard to find a common metric to compare, because the private school kids aren't taking the same assessment tests as the FCPS elementary kids. On the WPPSI/ERB test, FWIW which might not be much, my kids are in the high 140s and low 150s, and my sense is most of the other kids are in that same general area.

150 IQ is 1 in 1000. And you have multiples in your family, and 'most' of your school is also there. Truly amazing.

Yeah, that's why I take WPPSI scores - and scores from other similar tests - with a grain of salt. Similarly, the 137 IQ needed for the AAP program is 1 in 70 rarity. But I've read that approximately 30% of FCPS students are admitted to the AAP program. That seems a bit off too, doesn't it?

Nevertheless, my experience is that the private school elementary kids as a group are pretty darn bright. I'm not sure of any meaningful way to compare them with the average FCPS AAP student though. Open to ideas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have two daughters at Holton and they are bright, capable, engaged and happy - why would I care about an IQ score? Years ago when I tested for G&T in the 70's I recall my IQ was 137, which the public school needed to know in order to decide who got into the program. I'm glad my girls don't know their IQ because I think it's largely useless at a certain level. Poise and academic engagement are more important IMO.

+1. My daughters don't know their IQ scores either and I have no desire to ever get them tested. At a certain level (and pretty much all the students at a Big 3 meet this level), it becomes more about the student's intangibles - willingness to work hard, take risks, poise, etc.

Ugh. "At a certain level" .... "we know it's pretty high without testing and didn't need to compete for a spot in a free magnet school, so we don't need an actual number."

This is why I don't tell people where my kids go to school--they assume I think like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Indulge me, pls. if dcum is not for unsupportable, impossible-to-verify wonderings like this, then what is ...

Reading a recent thread on the Fairfax AAP program vs MoCo HGC program got me wondering. It seems most kids in those programs (at least, the ones with parents responding on dcum) have IQs of 135 and above. Those parents were blase about it, but those are really high scores for an ENTIRE class of kids. At my kids' private (a great k-8 school), I'd say there is a mix of abilities - plenty of really smart, a few off the charts smart, and plenty "regular" (whatever that means).

So what do you think is a typical IQ of kids in big 3 schools? I mean true IQs, not what their preK entrance test scores were (because my own kids were tested as having 99% IQs on the wippsi in pre-K, and neither fleshed out at that at the ages of 8 and 11, which are more reliable ages for wisc testing).

If what you're looking for is a way to compare kids from different private elementary schools, then maybe the best way is to compare how they do on the ERB tests that most of them seem to take in 3rd and 4th grades. I guess you could compare the stanines of how students stack up against some common population, such as suburban public schools or independent schools. If an average child at your K-8 is hitting the 7th stanine, and average children from those big 3 schools are also hitting the 7th stanine, then they're likely pretty comparable. The hard part will be figuring out what the average stanine for each school is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have two daughters at Holton and they are bright, capable, engaged and happy - why would I care about an IQ score? Years ago when I tested for G&T in the 70's I recall my IQ was 137, which the public school needed to know in order to decide who got into the program. I'm glad my girls don't know their IQ because I think it's largely useless at a certain level. Poise and academic engagement are more important IMO.

+1. My daughters don't know their IQ scores either and I have no desire to ever get them tested. At a certain level (and pretty much all the students at a Big 3 meet this level), it becomes more about the student's intangibles - willingness to work hard, take risks, poise, etc.

Ugh. "At a certain level" .... "we know it's pretty high without testing and didn't need to compete for a spot in a free magnet school, so we don't need an actual number."

This is why I don't tell people where my kids go to school--they assume I think like this.

I'm not the PP you're responding to, but I don't understand your complaint. It sounded to me like PP was just saying she knows her daughters are smart, but doesn't want to get hung up on the exact scores, so she hasn't had them tested. Are you saying it's offensive that she thinks her daughters are smart without having a test score in her back pocket? I must be missing your point.

[Anonymous]

My kids IQ's are in the 130's and they are at a big 3. But seriously, who cares? IQ's are almost completely irrelevant to general future success. I would rather my kids be creative, persistent, hard workers than lazy mesa's with no work ethic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids IQ's are in the 130's and they are at a big 3. But seriously, who cares? IQ's are almost completely irrelevant to general future success. I would rather my kids be creative, persistent, hard workers than lazy mesa's with no work ethic.

As a great man once said "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard."

[Anonymous]

My two kids are in the high 140's at one of the big 3's. I never realized this was so rare. I assumed every other kid was in the same range. I know my IW when tested as a child was 125. Not sure about DH ...

[Anonymous]

Typo above. IQ not IW

[Anonymous]

Every white kid I know is in "gifted" in the publics. OP -- don't you know that is how de facto segregation happens in the "diverse" public schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:100.

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