I think he's screwing more with his chances of being elected. |
The left is pissed because there is truth to his statement. |
I'm sorry, have you confused his behavior with acumen? He's not "screwing with the media." It's not like he successfully manipulates the media or something. |
Yup, and torpedoing the GOP while he's at it. It's hilarious! |
That doesn't even track. 1) There's no truth to the statement at all. 2) Even if there were, why would that anger "the left?" |
True story: Obama took out bin Laden to help his ISIS buddies. |
Don't attempt to apply logic here. |
Absolutely there is truth. He created the vacuum that allowed ISIS to emerge and grow. It was actually predicted that a scenario like this would happen when he pulled all our troops. And, if you can’t figure out why this would anger the left, you are clueless. |
How did pulling troops from Iraq create a vacuum in Syria? Besides, before you start prattling on about vacuums and pulling troops, I think you need to look back a few years earlier and examine the policies of a different administration that for the first time in our country's history acted as the aggressor by starting a war under false pretenses. THAT was the destabilizing act. If you're going to lay ISIS at the feet of a president, it's Bush's fault. |
You know your fearless leader was just being sarcastic, right? This is the problem with saying stupid shit, and then just "tweeting" that you were kidding or being sarcastic, or it was a metaphor. There are people that will believe whatever he says, even if he later tweets it was just joke. I think he knows that. I think he likes to sow that seed of misinformation, let his people believe all the lies, then turn around and say, "I was just kidding" so that he can't be held responsible for a lie later on. Problem is, that lie is now out there, and people start believing it. Once it's out there, it's hard to put a lid on it again. I bet you amongst his supporters people still believe that Trump saw the video of the $400ml payment to Iran, even though later on he tweeted that he was wrong. |
We ran guns to Syrian rebels, who were, in fact, ISIS. Remember Benghazi? |
ISIS was founded in 2006, it arose out of an already existing organization that was created after the invasion of Iraq. How you can lay that at the feet of Obama is beyond me, but a ludicrously high percentage of people seem to blame Obama for Katrina so I guess anything is possible. The US troops in Iraq were replaced by Iraqi troops. When ISIS launched its takeover of western Iraq, there were more Iraqi troops in the area then there were ISIS fighters. The Iraqi troops were also better equipped. However, those troops simply fled. This was not a power vacuum, but a legitimacy vacuum. The Iraqi government had failed to achieve legitimacy in the eyes of the Sunni population and the troops were not prepared to fight on behalf of a government in which they didn't believe. The ISIS takeover of western Iraq could not have happened were it not for the instability in Syria which allowed ISIS to establish a base in that country. If George Bush's invasion was responsible for ISIS's birth and infancy, the West's destabilization of Syria nurtured the organization through adolescence. Certainly Obama shares some responsibility for this, but for the most part he has been perhaps the single restraint on our involvement there. |
We are not even nearly at full Trump. There may be no bottom. |
The Syria rebels that we support are not ISIS. Some of the rebels are al-Qaida and we are in fact supporting those rebels today. ISIS was able to obtain weapons we supplied to other groups via various means (capturing, buying, etc.), but we didn't intentionally supply weapons to ISIS. |
A Republican security adviser from years ago came out and stated that the power vacuum was created when Saddam fell, as Bush Sr. knew and Colin Powell knew would happen. When Obama pulled the troops out, the assessment he got from the military was that things were under control. After they pulled out, one of the militiary leaders of the Baathist party took 1500 of his men and went to Syria. They trained ISIS, who at the time had no military experience. The ex-Baathists are actually somewhat secular. Their goal is to take back Iraq. ISIS, OTH, does want a caliphate. There are fissions in that alliance. But, ISIS probably wouldn't be able to form attacks without the Baathists training and help. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/how-saddams-former-soldiers-are-fueling-the-rise-of-isis/ So, if you want to lay blame, you can lay it on Bush, Obama, all of their advisers, and all of the members of Congress who voted for the war: yes, that includes Pence and Clinton. and if anyone thinks that one man alone - Trump - can bring ISIS to a heal, they are stupid and naive. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/how-saddams-former-soldiers-are-fueling-the-rise-of-isis/ |