The year 2025: where would you rather send your sixth grader - Hardy or Deal?

[Anonymous]

I hope DCI will be a great school in 9 years but it is not established yet. Test scores aren't great, lots of behavior problems. We will be looking at other options for DC, including Hardy.

[Anonymous]

I was chatting with a current Mann parent. There is a decent sized cohort going to Hardy this year.

As the ability to get into Latin and Basis decreases and private school tuition continues to grow, families that used to have other options are going to "settle" on Hardy. Once there is a critical mass, it will take 3 years and the school will look a lot more like Deal.

I would guess that for the class that starts 6th grade in 2019, there will be less than 10 spots for OOB students.

[Anonymous]

Hardy now, Hardy still in 2025. And I say that as a current Hardy parent who has other options, but chose Hardy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With 50-60 kids per class you might want to think about Francis Stevens. Like Hardy it has large % OOB population today, but likely to shift if Foggy Bottom population grows and Ross/Thomson take it up.

Of course would vastly prefer Shaw JH to come back online. FS is really too small to offer many electives/activities.

+1000. IB for Thomson and looking at FS with a keen eye.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With 50-60 kids per class you might want to think about Francis Stevens. Like Hardy it has large % OOB population today, but likely to shift if Foggy Bottom population grows and Ross/Thomson take it up.

Of course would vastly prefer Shaw JH to come back online. FS is really too small to offer many electives/activities.

+1000. IB for Thomson and looking at FS with a keen eye.

FS only offered 5 OOB slots at 6th this year, and, as of June, hasn't gone to its wait list. It's a long shot already, much less in a few years.

[Anonymous]

I really just don't trust DCPS to deliver a quality middle school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With 50-60 kids per class you might want to think about Francis Stevens. Like Hardy it has large % OOB population today, but likely to shift if Foggy Bottom population grows and Ross/Thomson take it up.

Of course would vastly prefer Shaw JH to come back online. FS is really too small to offer many electives/activities.

+1000. IB for Thomson and looking at FS with a keen eye.

FS only offered 5 OOB slots at 6th this year, and, as of June, hasn't gone to its wait list. It's a long shot already, much less in a few years.

??? Thomson feeds into FS. Or so I thought.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With 50-60 kids per class you might want to think about Francis Stevens. Like Hardy it has large % OOB population today, but likely to shift if Foggy Bottom population grows and Ross/Thomson take it up.

Of course would vastly prefer Shaw JH to come back online. FS is really too small to offer many electives/activities.

+1000. IB for Thomson and looking at FS with a keen eye.

FS only offered 5 OOB slots at 6th this year, and, as of June, hasn't gone to its wait list. It's a long shot already, much less in a few years.

??? Thomson feeds into FS. Or so I thought.

Jefferson, according to this document. http://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/SY15-16%20DCPS%20Feeder%20Patterns_0.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:With 50-60 kids per class you might want to think about Francis Stevens. Like Hardy it has large % OOB population today, but likely to shift if Foggy Bottom population grows and Ross/Thomson take it up.

Of course would vastly prefer Shaw JH to come back online. FS is really too small to offer many electives/activities.

+1000. IB for Thomson and looking at FS with a keen eye.

FS only offered 5 OOB slots at 6th this year, and, as of June, hasn't gone to its wait list. It's a long shot already, much less in a few years.

??? Thomson feeds into FS. Or so I thought.

Jefferson, according to this document. http://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/SY15-16%20DCPS%20Feeder%20Patterns_0.pdf

I'm sorry - it has a dual feed. My mistake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope DCI will be a great school in 9 years but it is not established yet. Test scores aren't great, lots of behavior problems. We will be looking at other options for DC, including Hardy.

DCI is about 2 years old? So, it has time to grow.

The best thing that happened to Hardy, is kicking in Eaton (and the Oyster families who don't want to deal with Adams). Those decisions in and of themselves will improve the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With 50-60 kids per class you might want to think about Francis Stevens. Like Hardy it has large % OOB population today, but likely to shift if Foggy Bottom population grows and Ross/Thomson take it up.

Of course would vastly prefer Shaw JH to come back online. FS is really too small to offer many electives/activities.

+1000. IB for Thomson and looking at FS with a keen eye.

FS only offered 5 OOB slots at 6th this year, and, as of June, hasn't gone to its wait list. It's a long shot already, much less in a few years.

??? Thomson feeds into FS. Or so I thought.

Jefferson, according to this document. http://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/SY15-16%20DCPS%20Feeder%20Patterns_0.pdf

I'm sorry - it has a dual feed. My mistake.

FS will be the sleeper. Has great feeder schools - Ross, Thomson & FS.

[Anonymous]

The thing with Francis-Stevens is the lack of children living within boundaries. Downtown/WestEnd is going to have to have a NoMa style residential transformation (plus 2.5 kids) to change that dynamic. Otherwise you have a churning out-of-boundary student population.

[Anonymous]

Agreed DCI has time to grow and probably will be good but it is not a sure thing. If we are going to add DCI, we should also consider CM and IT, both of which just added middle schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The thing with Francis-Stevens is the lack of children living within boundaries. Downtown/WestEnd is going to have to have a NoMa style residential transformation (plus 2.5 kids) to change that dynamic. Otherwise you have a churning out-of-boundary student population.

How is it relevant if strong feeder schools with limited other options buy into FS? They will stay for lack of other alternatives. As the school gets academically stronger, it will draw in more families. OOB or IB, it doesn't matter if the cohort is strong.

[Anonymous]

The relevance is that out-of-boundary students tend to churn more, and cohort cohesion is important for student success.