The black cop who has a problem with 'Black Lives Matter'

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty sad. These times are difficult for police officers, but I suspect black police officers are having an even harder time.

That he was accused of wanting to be a white boy is awful. I remember back in school that high-achieving black students were ridiculed by other blacks for "acting white." That's pretty sad...


I remember that too. Ridiculous.


It still goes on today.


So question...are we going to take this story in its proper context and realize that it is only this officer's personal experience or are we going to jump off the cliff of conjecture and come to the conclusion that this is the narrative of every single black cop in the country?



It is indeed one man's perspective - at least one man who's brave enough to share it with the public. There are others who may support him but who are too scared to come forward.

We will never know . . .


Well I know. I'm Black and DH is a Police officer that has risen through the ranks. And guess what, he is BLACK. The officer in the before mentioned story' p reality is not every Black police officer's reality. Just like intelligent thinking people would not conclude that one white man's reality, regardless of occupation, is another or every other white man's reality of similar occupation.


Me again. I need to make a correction and clear up my earlier post. DH said that at the beginning of his career, the late 90's when he made a stop or arrested a Black or Hispqnic person he was asked "why are you working for the police, they are the enemy." He said that he always responded "do you really want all the police to be white? We need to be represented in all aspects of society. We can't make it better if we are not in the game". I asked DH what was their follow up, and he said most would agree with his statement and drop the issue. He said he was never accused of acting white, and it's quite conceivable the Facebook poster overly exxagerrates. Of course, he has not had this accusation leveled against him in twenty years. Perhaps because he says that he approach people , regardless of race, the way he would want an officer to approach one of his loved ones. So, again, the police officer with the Facebook page reality is his reality, but not reflective of every Black officer's reality.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pretty sad. These times are difficult for police officers, but I suspect black police officers are having an even harder time.

That he was accused of wanting to be a white boy is awful. I remember back in school that high-achieving black students were ridiculed by other blacks for "acting white." That's pretty sad...


Happens to my husband all the time.


I don't believe you. Adults don't do this. But go on perpetuating your stereotypes.
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Anonymous wrote:Pretty sad. These times are difficult for police officers, but I suspect black police officers are having an even harder time.

That he was accused of wanting to be a white boy is awful. I remember back in school that high-achieving black students were ridiculed by other blacks for "acting white." That's pretty sad...


I remember that too. Ridiculous.


It still goes on today.


So question...are we going to take this story in its proper context and realize that it is only this officer's personal experience or are we going to jump off the cliff of conjecture and come to the conclusion that this is the narrative of every single black cop in the country?



It is indeed one man's perspective - at least one man who's brave enough to share it with the public. There are others who may support him but who are too scared to come forward.

We will never know . . .


Well I know. I'm Black and DH is a Police officer that has risen through the ranks. And guess what, he is BLACK. The officer in the before mentioned story' p reality is not every Black police officer's reality. Just like intelligent thinking people would not conclude that one white man's reality, regardless of occupation, is another or every other white man's reality of similar occupation.


Me again. I need to make a correction and clear up my earlier post. DH said that at the beginning of his career, the late 90's when he made a stop or arrested a Black or Hispqnic person he was asked "why are you working for the police, they are the enemy." He said that he always responded "do you really want all the police to be white? We need to be represented in all aspects of society. We can't make it better if we are not in the game". I asked DH what was their follow up, and he said most would agree with his statement and drop the issue. He said he was never accused of acting white, and it's quite conceivable the Facebook poster overly exxagerrates. Of course, he has not had this accusation leveled against him in twenty years. Perhaps because he says that he approach people , regardless of race, the way he would want an officer to approach one of his loved ones. So, again, the police officer with the Facebook page reality is his reality, but not reflective of every Black officer's reality.


Then he's lucky. But police, like many teachers, see some troubling behavior on a daily basis - all depends on one's beat or school. If that's all you see, you're bound to turn sour. Furthermore, while these experiences may be in the minority, it's a sad truth that there are pockets of adults and children who, bc of their environment, act out - whether it's by defying authority and telling a teacher to fuck off or stealing a car or ODing on drugs. No one wants to be angry. Sadly, angry people will take out their aggression on others who simply want to help. Teachers want to help; police want to help. But when you've been slapped around one too many times, it gets old and you, too, turn sour.

So I applaud the police for airing his views, however controversial they are. It's HIS reality, and if he's living it, so are other police who may be too fearful to say anything. It's the silent ones who ultimately keep the waters stagnant.

Your husband should be thankful, too, that he has developed the skills to work in some challenging and dangerous situations. Not everyone is so lucky.
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The original FB post linked to an image with stats that are so incorrect (and predictably racist) that many think the whole thing is a hoax.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pretty sad. These times are difficult for police officers, but I suspect black police officers are having an even harder time.

That he was accused of wanting to be a white boy is awful. I remember back in school that high-achieving black students were ridiculed by other blacks for "acting white." That's pretty sad...


Happens to my husband all the time.


I don't believe you. Adults don't do this. But go on perpetuating your stereotypes.


I don't believe it either. As educated professional adults, NO ONE says this.
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I was listening to a podcast today of an black ex-cop. He was clear that there are many great officers and there are some racist ones. Period.
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All lives matter.
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Anonymous wrote:I think we need to get past assuming that all blacks think a certain way. Most of the black people I know don't like the in your face attitude of BLM. They understand why BLM started, but think the implementation is lacking. Also, many BLM supporters feel like those committing violent acts are undermining the cause. It's a complicated matter. Just like abortion clinic bombers don't represent all pro-lifers, we need to stop attributing any black person's actions to all black people. It's going to be a long, hard road before that happens, but I'm hopeful we will get there.


Bingo. Lots of blacks are sympathetic but put off by aspects of BLM. Like every other movement, it's far from perfect. Me personally, I think it reflects the super liberal politics and aesthetics of young people. I checked out the website for the first time today actually (I'm black) and was surprised by the focus on being queer friendly and in support of trans people. I mean, okay, fine, I don't oppose in principle, but it just seems like the movement is designed to appeal to a narrow segment of society.
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Anonymous wrote:All lives matter.


That's nice. I assume you're super involved in working against police brutality in general then? Please tell us about that.
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Anonymous wrote:All lives matter.


That's nice. I assume you're super involved in working against police brutality in general then? Please tell us about that.



I'd rather be involved in helping black people learn to take responsibility for their actions and figure out ways to improve themselves. Pulling up your pants over your ass is a start, then try to get educated and stop glorifying the thug life. That is the only thing that will help.
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Anonymous wrote:All lives matter.


That's nice. I assume you're super involved in working against police brutality in general then? Please tell us about that.



I'd rather be involved in helping black people learn to take responsibility for their actions and figure out ways to improve themselves. Pulling up your pants over your ass is a start, then try to get educated and stop glorifying the thug life. That is the only thing that will help.


No you wouldn't. If you gave even half a shit, you wouldn't have denigrated the clothing choices of young people (they always look weird!) and deliberately tried to insult them. Are the ripped jeans and slutty clothing that plenty of white people wear any better? Who gives a shit what they're wearing? Also really sad that you can't even admit that excessive force by police is a problem at all, affecting people of all races.
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http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5786bfffe4b08608d332eaa0

Maybe you might trust the words of a black Republican.
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Anonymous wrote:All lives matter.


That's nice. I assume you're super involved in working against police brutality in general then? Please tell us about that.



I'd rather be involved in helping black people learn to take responsibility for their actions and figure out ways to improve themselves. Pulling up your pants over your ass is a start, then try to get educated and stop glorifying the thug life. That is the only thing that will help.


No you wouldn't. If you gave even half a shit, you wouldn't have denigrated the clothing choices of young people (they always look weird!) and deliberately tried to insult them. Are the ripped jeans and slutty clothing that plenty of white people wear any better? Who gives a shit what they're wearing? Also really sad that you can't even admit that excessive force by police is a problem at all, affecting people of all races.
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Anonymous wrote:All lives matter.


That's nice. I assume you're super involved in working against police brutality in general then? Please tell us about that.



I'd rather be involved in helping black people learn to take responsibility for their actions and figure out ways to improve themselves. Pulling up your pants over your ass is a start, then try to get educated and stop glorifying the thug life. That is the only thing that will help.


If I'm a professional, educated black mother who is part of BLM because I am horrified that my teenage son (who is a high achieving, well mannered young man who does not sag his pants) is far more likely to be murdered by a police officer who imputes his assumptions about all young black men, as you seem to, to my son and is therefore scared of him "in the moment," that doesn't mean that I don't think YOUR son's life matters. Or that the lives of police officers don't matter. Your statement above is merely telling us that you think a death like that is justified because OTHER young black men act like "thugs" and sag their pants. If that's the definition of racist, I don't know what is. You think those losses are acceptable to you because our skin is darker than yours.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All lives matter.


That's nice. I assume you're super involved in working against police brutality in general then? Please tell us about that.



I'd rather be involved in helping black people learn to take responsibility for their actions and figure out ways to improve themselves. Pulling up your pants over your ass is a start, then try to get educated and stop glorifying the thug life. That is the only thing that will help.

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