Does 3 year old have to be fully potty trained for PK3 charter school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People, it doesn't matter if the child has special needs or not. Being potty trained is NOT a prerequisite to attend DCPS PK3.

http://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-child-eligible-dcps-early-childhood-programs

Read the last sentence.

This policy statement doesn't apply to a charter school. But regardless the child will be fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our son has several developmental delays and is still resisting potty training at 37 months. He starts PK3 at desired charter school in August and I'm worried he still won't be potty trained at this time. Can a charter school refuse a child because of this? We're working on the problem, but DS is refusing potty the more we push it (no matter the incentive). We were blessed to be matched with one of our top lottery choices and don't want to lose it.

Congratulations on your lottery match! Our DD, no delays, was not potty trained when she started PK3 at our charter. She certainly was not alone in her class in this regard. It clicked over winter break, but never did we feel pressure from her teachers about it. And there were still a few kids this spring in pullups. Please don't worry about it. It will happen when it happens.

Our charter allowed this last year - and my understanding is going to be a lot stricter this year for children who do not have developmental disabilities.

Since your child has developmental delays, as many others have recommended, connect with the schools director of student services to get your child an assessment and all of the services they need to be successful in the classroom. (I assume there are OT needs as well)

If your understanding is correct, your charter is planning on breaking the law. It is illegal for a charter to select students based on skill. In addition, given that many children with disabilities aren't identified until after they start school, a policy that disproportionately impacts students with unidentified disabilities is discriminatory.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our son has several developmental delays and is still resisting potty training at 37 months. He starts PK3 at desired charter school in August and I'm worried he still won't be potty trained at this time. Can a charter school refuse a child because of this? We're working on the problem, but DS is refusing potty the more we push it (no matter the incentive). We were blessed to be matched with one of our top lottery choices and don't want to lose it.

Congratulations on your lottery match! Our DD, no delays, was not potty trained when she started PK3 at our charter. She certainly was not alone in her class in this regard. It clicked over winter break, but never did we feel pressure from her teachers about it. And there were still a few kids this spring in pullups. Please don't worry about it. It will happen when it happens.

Our charter allowed this last year - and my understanding is going to be a lot stricter this year for children who do not have developmental disabilities.

Since your child has developmental delays, as many others have recommended, connect with the schools director of student services to get your child an assessment and all of the services they need to be successful in the classroom. (I assume there are OT needs as well)

If your understanding is correct, your charter is planning on breaking the law. It is illegal for a charter to select students based on skill. In addition, given that many children with disabilities aren't identified until after they start school, a policy that disproportionately impacts students with unidentified disabilities is discriminatory.

What does that even mean? Are they going to kick them out for not being potty trained? They don't really have the means to "be stricter" even if they want to.

[Anonymous]

don't stress too much. My DS was not potty trained at the beginning of the summer, and was mostly (if somewhat inconsistently) potty trained by the beginning of the school year. He had quite a few accidents in the early months, and we had to be sure there was always a change of clothes in his backpack. His teacher developed a plan to have him take regular bathroom breaks on a schedule, and by Thanksgiving, he was accident-free.

Work on this over the summer, but don't stress too much -- it will happen in good time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:don't stress too much. My DS was not potty trained at the beginning of the summer, and was mostly (if somewhat inconsistently) potty trained by the beginning of the school year. He had quite a few accidents in the early months, and we had to be sure there was always a change of clothes in his backpack. His teacher developed a plan to have him take regular bathroom breaks on a schedule, and by Thanksgiving, he was accident-free.

Work on this over the summer, but don't stress too much -- it will happen in good time.

This is what I have seen with the vast majority of kids. Having a teacher with experience with this, along with the general peer pressure to go to the bathroom like everyone else does, will do the trick pretty quickly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our son has several developmental delays and is still resisting potty training at 37 months. He starts PK3 at desired charter school in August and I'm worried he still won't be potty trained at this time. Can a charter school refuse a child because of this? We're working on the problem, but DS is refusing potty the more we push it (no matter the incentive). We were blessed to be matched with one of our top lottery choices and don't want to lose it.

Congratulations on your lottery match! Our DD, no delays, was not potty trained when she started PK3 at our charter. She certainly was not alone in her class in this regard. It clicked over winter break, but never did we feel pressure from her teachers about it. And there were still a few kids this spring in pullups. Please don't worry about it. It will happen when it happens.

Wow. What a disservice to your kid to fail to keep her in diapers past her third birthday. Also: disgusting!

Any way to get assholes like this one booted from the forums?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our son has several developmental delays and is still resisting potty training at 37 months. He starts PK3 at desired charter school in August and I'm worried he still won't be potty trained at this time. Can a charter school refuse a child because of this? We're working on the problem, but DS is refusing potty the more we push it (no matter the incentive). We were blessed to be matched with one of our top lottery choices and don't want to lose it.

Congratulations on your lottery match! Our DD, no delays, was not potty trained when she started PK3 at our charter. She certainly was not alone in her class in this regard. It clicked over winter break, but never did we feel pressure from her teachers about it. And there were still a few kids this spring in pullups. Please don't worry about it. It will happen when it happens.

Our charter allowed this last year - and my understanding is going to be a lot stricter this year for children who do not have developmental disabilities.

Since your child has developmental delays, as many others have recommended, connect with the schools director of student services to get your child an assessment and all of the services they need to be successful in the classroom. (I assume there are OT needs as well)

If your understanding is correct, your charter is planning on breaking the law. It is illegal for a charter to select students based on skill. In addition, given that many children with disabilities aren't identified until after they start school, a policy that disproportionately impacts students with unidentified disabilities is discriminatory.

I totally agree. Any preschool that would have a zero-tolerance policy for potty training (for kids who may be just barely 3, remember) is probably also really bad at providing a developmentally appropriate setting in general for the little ones. I would take it as an extremely bad sign. Yes, parents should make an effort to potty train beforehand, but sometimes things go awry or you have a kid who just doesn't get it for any of a variety of reasons.

[Anonymous]

You kid will piss them self a few times, get made fun of and then learn not to do it. That is how many kids learn, the ones that are still oblivious most like default to diapers being the least of their problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You kid will piss them self a few times, get made fun of and then learn not to do it. That is how many kids learn, the ones that are still oblivious most like default to diapers being the least of their problems.

You are really nasty. My kid was barely trained at 4 due to delays and had accidents, as did other kids at school. It was no big deal. Eventually he got it. With delays, sometimes kids are not capable of PT before 4 or even 5. Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You kid will piss them self a few times, get made fun of and then learn not to do it. That is how many kids learn, the ones that are still oblivious most like default to diapers being the least of their problems.

Do you have a 3 or 4 year old? This behavior--laughing at someone else--is learned, not inherent. And thankfully assholes like you have not yet drilled it into toddlers' heads yet that making fun of someone for any reason is acceptable behavior. Kids laugh with and at each other being silly. Not for wetting their pants, unless they are being raised by fucking jerks. And then they'll turn into a fucking jerk like you. Congrats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You kid will piss them self a few times, get made fun of and then learn not to do it. That is how many kids learn, the ones that are still oblivious most like default to diapers being the least of their problems.

No, not at 3. Or at 4 or 5. Kids still have accidents in kindergarten, occasionally. It happens. The other children don't point and laugh. Change clothes and move on with the day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You kid will piss them self a few times, get made fun of and then learn not to do it. That is how many kids learn, the ones that are still oblivious most like default to diapers being the least of their problems.

Do you have a 3 or 4 year old? This behavior--laughing at someone else--is learned, not inherent. And thankfully assholes like you have not yet drilled it into toddlers' heads yet that making fun of someone for any reason is acceptable behavior. Kids laugh with and at each other being silly. Not for wetting their pants, unless they are being raised by fucking jerks. And then they'll turn into a fucking jerk like you. Congrats.

I don't know if it is learned or ingrained, but it kicks in in K hard, and unless your school has a zero tolerance for teasing and supports socially the kids who are a little "off". That said, the teasing doesn't really focus on accident. It does however, focus on kids who are delayed socially, so, OP, this would be more my concern. I'm at a good school that takes a "hand off" approach - it sucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our son has several developmental delays and is still resisting potty training at 37 months. He starts PK3 at desired charter school in August and I'm worried he still won't be potty trained at this time. Can a charter school refuse a child because of this? We're working on the problem, but DS is refusing potty the more we push it (no matter the incentive). We were blessed to be matched with one of our top lottery choices and don't want to lose it.

Congratulations on your lottery match! Our DD, no delays, was not potty trained when she started PK3 at our charter. She certainly was not alone in her class in this regard. It clicked over winter break, but never did we feel pressure from her teachers about it. And there were still a few kids this spring in pullups. Please don't worry about it. It will happen when it happens.

Wow. What a disservice to your kid to fail to keep her in diapers past her third birthday. Also: disgusting!

Wow. What a disservice to humanity to be such a self-righteous prig. Development happens when it happens, nobody ever went off to college in pull-ups. What's disgusting is that you've confused your anus with your mouth: stop sharing the things that come out of it! Seriously, you are grotesque.

Well said. Every expert in child development will tell you that the timing of potty training is not a top down decision. And the "disgusting" PP can't even correctly word her nasty diatribe, as I'm assuming she meant to say the exact opposite of her statement that failing to keep your kid in diapers past their third birthday is a disservice to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You kid will piss them self a few times, get made fun of and then learn not to do it. That is how many kids learn, the ones that are still oblivious most like default to diapers being the least of their problems.

Do you have a 3 or 4 year old? This behavior--laughing at someone else--is learned, not inherent. And thankfully assholes like you have not yet drilled it into toddlers' heads yet that making fun of someone for any reason is acceptable behavior. Kids laugh with and at each other being silly. Not for wetting their pants, unless they are being raised by fucking jerks. And then they'll turn into a fucking jerk like you. Congrats.

I don't know if it is learned or ingrained, but it kicks in in K hard, and unless your school has a zero tolerance for teasing and supports socially the kids who are a little "off". That said, the teasing doesn't really focus on accident. It does however, focus on kids who are delayed socially, so, OP, this would be more my concern. I'm at a good school that takes a "hand off" approach - it sucks.

I've taught K at several schools and have never seen this. Kids whose parents are cruel are often also cruel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You kid will piss them self a few times, get made fun of and then learn not to do it. That is how many kids learn, the ones that are still oblivious most like default to diapers being the least of their problems.

Do you have a 3 or 4 year old? This behavior--laughing at someone else--is learned, not inherent. And thankfully assholes like you have not yet drilled it into toddlers' heads yet that making fun of someone for any reason is acceptable behavior. Kids laugh with and at each other being silly. Not for wetting their pants, unless they are being raised by fucking jerks. And then they'll turn into a fucking jerk like you. Congrats.

I don't know if it is learned or ingrained, but it kicks in in K hard, and unless your school has a zero tolerance for teasing and supports socially the kids who are a little "off". That said, the teasing doesn't really focus on accident. It does however, focus on kids who are delayed socially, so, OP, this would be more my concern. I'm at a good school that takes a "hand off" approach - it sucks.

I've taught K at several schools and have never seen this. Kids whose parents are cruel are often also cruel.

Yea, my child's teacher didn't think it a big deal either. "Everything is fine - it's just part of their play." By the end of the year, my child played exclusively by himself to avoid the kids who teased him, and even that didn't work 100%.