Transcript of Obama's remarks at Howard

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He is preaching to the choir and what they want to hear. He does not get it. President Clinton did get it.

?? He's not giving a speech to America. He's giving a speech to these graduates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He is preaching to the choir and what they want to hear. He does not get it. President Clinton did get it.

?? He's not giving a speech to America. He's giving a speech to these graduates.

Exactly!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Embrace your blackness?" Ha! Sort of like he does....???

How much shit would have hit the fan had Bush spoken at Liberty U and told the crowd there to "Embrace their whiteness"?

I will interpret for you since your objective is obvious. Embracing your blackness means regardless of everything negative said about African-Americans (i.e. responsible for all the ills of the country, academically inferior, incapable of leadership, etc), you can be proud of yourself and your accomplishments. Embrace your ethnicity proudly and without shame just as others do and have done.

Based on comments I read on DCUM, including yours PP, I'd say the President's comment was spot on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Large Financial corporation that i work at will hire hundreds of H1Bs this year but will never interview a single Howard computer science graduate What a culture we live in

Not sure how you make the leap between your workplace's attitude and the rest of society. Why do you think your employer acts that way?

Probably because they can get much better candidates cheaper through an H1B.

Doubt they are better. Many of the H1B applicants lie about their experience and displaced American workers train the H1B applicants to do their jobs. A sham.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Embrace your blackness?" Ha! Sort of like he does....???

How much shit would have hit the fan had Bush spoken at Liberty U and told the crowd there to "Embrace their whiteness"?

I will interpret for you since your objective is obvious. Embracing your blackness means regardless of everything negative said about African-Americans (i.e. responsible for all the ills of the country, academically inferior, incapable of leadership, etc), you can be proud of yourself and your accomplishments. Embrace your ethnicity proudly and without shame just as others do and have done.

Based on comments I read on DCUM, including yours PP, I'd say the President's comment was spot on.

+1 . As someone who was there, they were spot on and EXACTLY what those graduates needed to hear as they head out into the world. He was essentially saying "don't let anyone steal your joy and diminish what you have done." It was a very POSITIVE message and exactly what I would have expected the POTUS to say at a HBCU commencement. Hell, at my undergrad commencement at a PWI, the commencement speaker said basically the same damn thing. No outrage at all. Only those who either hate POTUS or hate AA's would find fault with what he said. And people act like this is the first speech like this he has given - it is not.

And anyone comparing Howard U to Liberty U is, let me just say, not well informed.

[Anonymous]

I thought it was a fabulous speech.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Large Financial corporation that i work at will hire hundreds of H1Bs this year but will never interview a single Howard computer science graduate What a culture we live in

Not sure how you make the leap between your workplace's attitude and the rest of society. Why do you think your employer acts that way?

Probably because they can get much better candidates cheaper through an H1B.

Doubt they are better. Many of the H1B applicants lie about their experience and displaced American workers train the H1B applicants to do their jobs. A sham.

+1. Yup. Many of the "schools" that H1B applicant hail from are diploma mills and not real institutions of higher learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Large Financial corporation that i work at will hire hundreds of H1Bs this year but will never interview a single Howard computer science graduate What a culture we live in

It's often called meritocracy.

If companies are willing to go all the trouble of sponsoring visas and getting people with non-optimal language skills, it's because they are getting more value there. Which is not surprising, if you compare the crazy admission and academic standards at top Indian colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Large Financial corporation that i work at will hire hundreds of H1Bs this year but will never interview a single Howard computer science graduate What a culture we live in

It's often called meritocracy.

If companies are willing to go all the trouble of sponsoring visas and getting people with non-optimal language skills, it's because they are getting more value there. Which is not surprising, if you compare the crazy admission and academic standards at top Indian colleges.

It all depends on how you define "value." If it means they can get a captive workforce and pay them less - then you are right. Hiring H1B workers is not about talent - it is about cost savings and profit. Period.

As far as the academic standards, many of the H1B workers come from diploma mills and most of the graduates of the "top colleges" are not the IT drones you find coming here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Embrace your blackness?" Ha! Sort of like he does....???

How much shit would have hit the fan had Bush spoken at Liberty U and told the crowd there to "Embrace their whiteness"?

He wouldn't have said that at Liberty "U" because in this analogy, "black:Howard::Christian:Liberty." So he would have said, "Embrace your Christianess!" And the shit most surely would have hit the fan (rightly). I'm not super-up on my AA history, but I seem to rememeber it was they who were forced to donated their labor, denied right after right after right and swung in hugely disproportionate numbers from the ends of trees. I seem to recall my scanty Black History knowledge that it was largely white Christians perpetrating these crimes, not suffering from them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Large Financial corporation that i work at will hire hundreds of H1Bs this year but will never interview a single Howard computer science graduate What a culture we live in

Not sure how you make the leap between your workplace's attitude and the rest of society. Why do you think your employer acts that way?

because it is happening in every large company with IT. The only group protected are gov shops with clearance requirements. Millions of H1B Immigrants taking American Jobs courtesy of the federal gov and law changes in late 80's

IBM is a great example of our culture getting turned upside down.

"I am cut while my replacement H1B visa worker stays."

“I’m a Team Lead with 4 Infrastructure Engineering teams and 11 years with IBM. Just got a term date today, 90 days. I was rated as high as you can get recently; just moving everything to India.”

“Second wave of RA'S today in Costa Mesa. Multiple products are being transferred to India. We are training our replacements.”

http://spectrum.ieee.org/view-from-the-valley/computing/it/reports-coming-in-of-mass-us-layoffs-underway-today-at-ibm

http://www.wsj.com/articles/ibm-layoffs-continue-1463784692

[Anonymous]

Howard University? Why would anyone interview from Howard? That's not an elite school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was a fabulous speech.

You do realize that professional staff wrote it for him, don't you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was a fabulous speech.

You do realize that professional staff wrote it for him, don't you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was a fabulous speech.

You do realize that professional staff wrote it for him, don't you?

Name a president who didn't have speech writers.