Maci from teen mom drank the first 22 weeks of pregnancy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maci is the best mom of this bunch, despite it all, but look at her competition.

I think Chelsea ranks as possibly the best of all the Teen Moms. Yes, I know she's not perfect, but she seems to put Aubree first the majority of the time, and learns from her mistakes. I think she tries the hardest. Kailyn would be higher up for me if she wasn't such a bitch to Jo, a guy who has made it clear that he can and will be a father to his son. I do think she's a good mom to her kids (although part of being a good parent is supporting and building up the child's relationship with the other parent).

Can't really rank the TM3 ladies, but I guess they were #1 in boring.

What's up with Chelsea's baby voice?

What's up with Kailyn's extensive tats?

I agree that those two are probably pretty good examples, along with Maci, but they are far, far from great parents:

--Maci has had at least 2 men living with her with her son and will have three kids, with two different men, all out of wedlock, all at a very young age. No college education. Says negative things in front of Bentley about his dad. Pushes her new kid off every chance she can get, to do things like the mud run. She KNEW she was leaving the baby with Ryan's mother - how on earth could she have had the baby at the mud run? House being such a mess shows she is overwhelmed. Talking about trading b.jobs for laundry was disgusting on tv, knowing one day her kidS will watch it.

--Chelsea and her parents talk crap about Adam in front of Aubree all the time. She needs to drop the baby voice.

--Kailyn has a massive temper. She, too, wants her time away from the kids. She has 2 kids by two different men at a very young age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's up with Chelsea's baby voice?

What's up with Kailyn's extensive tats?

I agree that those two are probably pretty good examples, along with Maci, but they are far, far from great parents:

--Maci has had at least 2 men living with her with her son and will have three kids, with two different men, all out of wedlock, all at a very young age. No college education. Says negative things in front of Bentley about his dad. Pushes her new kid off every chance she can get, to do things like the mud run. She KNEW she was leaving the baby with Ryan's mother - how on earth could she have had the baby at the mud run? House being such a mess shows she is overwhelmed. Talking about trading b.jobs for laundry was disgusting on tv, knowing one day her kidS will watch it.

--Chelsea and her parents talk crap about Adam in front of Aubree all the time. She needs to drop the baby voice.

--Kailyn has a massive temper. She, too, wants her time away from the kids. She has 2 kids by two different men at a very young age.

I don't see any examples of bad parenting listed here. "Wedlock" lol. Can we all agree to join the 21st century?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's up with Chelsea's baby voice?

What's up with Kailyn's extensive tats?

I agree that those two are probably pretty good examples, along with Maci, but they are far, far from great parents:

--Maci has had at least 2 men living with her with her son and will have three kids, with two different men, all out of wedlock, all at a very young age. No college education. Says negative things in front of Bentley about his dad. Pushes her new kid off every chance she can get, to do things like the mud run. She KNEW she was leaving the baby with Ryan's mother - how on earth could she have had the baby at the mud run? House being such a mess shows she is overwhelmed. Talking about trading b.jobs for laundry was disgusting on tv, knowing one day her kidS will watch it.

--Chelsea and her parents talk crap about Adam in front of Aubree all the time. She needs to drop the baby voice.

--Kailyn has a massive temper. She, too, wants her time away from the kids. She has 2 kids by two different men at a very young age.

I don't see any examples of bad parenting listed here. "Wedlock" lol. Can we all agree to join the 21st century?

Oh, is it now quaint and old fashioned to bring kids into the world in a legally binding committed relationship?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's up with Chelsea's baby voice?

What's up with Kailyn's extensive tats?

I agree that those two are probably pretty good examples, along with Maci, but they are far, far from great parents:

--Maci has had at least 2 men living with her with her son and will have three kids, with two different men, all out of wedlock, all at a very young age. No college education. Says negative things in front of Bentley about his dad. Pushes her new kid off every chance she can get, to do things like the mud run. She KNEW she was leaving the baby with Ryan's mother - how on earth could she have had the baby at the mud run? House being such a mess shows she is overwhelmed. Talking about trading b.jobs for laundry was disgusting on tv, knowing one day her kidS will watch it.

--Chelsea and her parents talk crap about Adam in front of Aubree all the time. She needs to drop the baby voice.

--Kailyn has a massive temper. She, too, wants her time away from the kids. She has 2 kids by two different men at a very young age.

I don't see any examples of bad parenting listed here. "Wedlock" lol. Can we all agree to join the 21st century?

Oh, is it now quaint and old fashioned to bring kids into the world in a legally binding committed relationship?

But it's so uncool

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's up with Chelsea's baby voice?

What's up with Kailyn's extensive tats?

I agree that those two are probably pretty good examples, along with Maci, but they are far, far from great parents:

--Maci has had at least 2 men living with her with her son and will have three kids, with two different men, all out of wedlock, all at a very young age. No college education. Says negative things in front of Bentley about his dad. Pushes her new kid off every chance she can get, to do things like the mud run. She KNEW she was leaving the baby with Ryan's mother - how on earth could she have had the baby at the mud run? House being such a mess shows she is overwhelmed. Talking about trading b.jobs for laundry was disgusting on tv, knowing one day her kidS will watch it.

--Chelsea and her parents talk crap about Adam in front of Aubree all the time. She needs to drop the baby voice.

--Kailyn has a massive temper. She, too, wants her time away from the kids. She has 2 kids by two different men at a very young age.

I don't see any examples of bad parenting listed here. "Wedlock" lol. Can we all agree to join the 21st century?

Oh, is it now quaint and old fashioned to bring kids into the world in a legally binding committed relationship?

Yes, wedlock. Call it what you want, but how will she teach Bentley and her 2 other kids about sleeping around and protection when her own experiences, including claiming having no idea she was pregnant with a third kid until 1/2 way through her pregnancy.

[Anonymous]

Stupid is as stupid does..

I hope that baby turns out ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh, is it now quaint and old fashioned to bring kids into the world in a legally binding committed relationship?

Yes, wedlock. Call it what you want, but how will she teach Bentley and her 2 other kids about sleeping around and protection when her own experiences, including claiming having no idea she was pregnant with a third kid until 1/2 way through her pregnancy.

Marriage doesn't make kids happy and well adjusted, having two loving and committed parents does, which her kids have. And yes, I do believe marriage is an antiquated institution and rapidly falling out of style.

LOL @ "sleeping around." What a prude!

[Anonymous]

If anyone watched "Teen Mom" Mon. night, Maci is drinking, but it is hard to tell when it was filmed. The timelines for all the girls have been all over the place, and sometimes they break the 4th wall by showing the date.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, is it now quaint and old fashioned to bring kids into the world in a legally binding committed relationship?

Yes, wedlock. Call it what you want, but how will she teach Bentley and her 2 other kids about sleeping around and protection when her own experiences, including claiming having no idea she was pregnant with a third kid until 1/2 way through her pregnancy.

Marriage doesn't make kids happy and well adjusted, having two loving and committed parents does, which her kids have. And yes, I do believe marriage is an antiquated institution and rapidly falling out of style.

LOL @ "sleeping around." What a prude!

Clearly, you do not watch the show. It would be a real stretch to call her son Bentley's father loving or committed, though his parents seem like loving grandparents. After their split, Maci lived with a new boyfriend, Kyle, ("Kaaaaahhhll") encouraged him to be a daddy to Bentley, and pressured him to marry her. That did not work out, and he moved out. Then she hooks up with the current guy and gets "surprise" pregnant with her daughter. They move in together, she pressures him for a commitment, which he is reluctant to make, then she gets "surprise" pregnant again and he finally pops the question. Just because a couple live together and share unplanned offspring does not make them "committed." She has not provided a stable environment for her kids and values having a man in her life over making something of herself with all that MTV money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, is it now quaint and old fashioned to bring kids into the world in a legally binding committed relationship?

Yes, wedlock. Call it what you want, but how will she teach Bentley and her 2 other kids about sleeping around and protection when her own experiences, including claiming having no idea she was pregnant with a third kid until 1/2 way through her pregnancy.

Marriage doesn't make kids happy and well adjusted, having two loving and committed parents does, which her kids have. And yes, I do believe marriage is an antiquated institution and rapidly falling out of style.

LOL @ "sleeping around." What a prude!

Clearly, you do not watch the show. It would be a real stretch to call her son Bentley's father loving or committed, though his parents seem like loving grandparents. After their split, Maci lived with a new boyfriend, Kyle, ("Kaaaaahhhll") encouraged him to be a daddy to Bentley, and pressured him to marry her. That did not work out, and he moved out. Then she hooks up with the current guy and gets "surprise" pregnant with her daughter. They move in together, she pressures him for a commitment, which he is reluctant to make, then she gets "surprise" pregnant again and he finally pops the question. Just because a couple live together and share unplanned offspring does not make them "committed." She has not provided a stable environment for her kids and values having a man in her life over making something of herself with all that MTV money.

I have seen every episode. I was referring to Maci and Taylor as the two loving, committed parents. Or do you not consider step-parents to be real parents, either?

How is it not a stable environment? Because she had two boyfriends in the last 7 years, each of whom she seemed to be serious about? Maci and Taylor have been together since 2012. They seem to be monogamous, they do lots of activities together, Taylor is involved in every bday and holiday, they communicate with each other, make decisions together, he spends time with Bentley and tells him he loves him....it's not the piece of paper that dictates the level of commitment, it's their actions and words.

I have no patience for Maci's fixation on the husband/wife labels and the way she pressured him, but he also did not help the situation by trying to think up some perfect proposal and waiting so long. Just get married for crissakes, you both want to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh, is it now quaint and old fashioned to bring kids into the world in a legally binding committed relationship?

Yes, wedlock. Call it what you want, but how will she teach Bentley and her 2 other kids about sleeping around and protection when her own experiences, including claiming having no idea she was pregnant with a third kid until 1/2 way through her pregnancy.

Marriage doesn't make kids happy and well adjusted, having two loving and committed parents does, which her kids have. And yes, I do believe marriage is an antiquated institution and rapidly falling out of style.

LOL @ "sleeping around." What a prude!

Clearly, you do not watch the show. It would be a real stretch to call her son Bentley's father loving or committed, though his parents seem like loving grandparents. After their split, Maci lived with a new boyfriend, Kyle, ("Kaaaaahhhll") encouraged him to be a daddy to Bentley, and pressured him to marry her. That did not work out, and he moved out. Then she hooks up with the current guy and gets "surprise" pregnant with her daughter. They move in together, she pressures him for a commitment, which he is reluctant to make, then she gets "surprise" pregnant again and he finally pops the question. Just because a couple live together and share unplanned offspring does not make them "committed." She has not provided a stable environment for her kids and values having a man in her life over making something of herself with all that MTV money.

I have seen every episode. I was referring to Maci and Taylor as the two loving, committed parents. Or do you not consider step-parents to be real parents, either?

How is it not a stable environment? Because she had two boyfriends in the last 7 years, each of whom she seemed to be serious about? Maci and Taylor have been together since 2012. They seem to be monogamous, they do lots of activities together, Taylor is involved in every bday and holiday, they communicate with each other, make decisions together, he spends time with Bentley and tells him he loves him....it's not the piece of paper that dictates the level of commitment, it's their actions and words.

I have no patience for Maci's fixation on the husband/wife labels and the way she pressured him, but he also did not help the situation by trying to think up some perfect proposal and waiting so long. Just get married for crissakes, you both want to.

Yeah, that's great. He is nice to his girlfriend's son and does stuff with him. But he has no obligation to him and could leave tomorrow, no strings attached. And then Bentley would have lost another father figure. Maci is going about this backwards. Yeah, I hope they get married and this is a permanent thing for everyone involved. That would be great. But a commitment involves willingly taking on an obligation. I never saw that they made any explicit agreement to remain together, be faithful to each other, and raise a family together. I think there was just a lot of hope on her part that he would eventually agree to all this if she just hung in there and applied some pressure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yeah, that's great. He is nice to his girlfriend's son and does stuff with him. But he has no obligation to him and could leave tomorrow, no strings attached. And then Bentley would have lost another father figure. Maci is going about this backwards. Yeah, I hope they get married and this is a permanent thing for everyone involved. That would be great. But a commitment involves willingly taking on an obligation. I never saw that they made any explicit agreement to remain together, be faithful to each other, and raise a family together. I think there was just a lot of hope on her part that he would eventually agree to all this if she just hung in there and applied some pressure.

Could be. Or maybe she observed how he acted over a period of time and realized he was good on his word, saw how much he loved her son without a piece of paper telling him he had to, and realized that's about as good as it gets in life and she should hold on to this one.

All this social fixation on marriage is very unhelpful IMO. You don't want someone sticking around because they're legally obligated (which if you've noticed has never kept losers from shirking their obligations). It vows and promises were all it took to keep someone around the divorce rate wouldn't be so high.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maci is the best mom of this bunch, despite it all, but look at her competition.

I think Chelsea ranks as possibly the best of all the Teen Moms. Yes, I know she's not perfect, but she seems to put Aubree first the majority of the time, and learns from her mistakes. I think she tries the hardest. Kailyn would be higher up for me if she wasn't such a bitch to Jo, a guy who has made it clear that he can and will be a father to his son. I do think she's a good mom to her kids (although part of being a good parent is supporting and building up the child's relationship with the other parent).

Can't really rank the TM3 ladies, but I guess they were #1 in boring.

What's up with Chelsea's baby voice?

What's up with Kailyn's extensive tats?

I agree that those two are probably pretty good examples, along with Maci, but they are far, far from great parents:

--Maci has had at least 2 men living with her with her son and will have three kids, with two different men, all out of wedlock, all at a very young age. No college education. [b]Says negative things in front of Bentley about his dad. Pushes her new kid off every chance she can get, to do things like the mud run. She KNEW she was leaving the baby with Ryan's mother - how on earth could she have had the baby at the mud run? House being such a mess shows she is overwhelmed. Talking about trading b.jobs for laundry was disgusting on tv, knowing one day her kidS will watch it.[/b]

--Chelsea and her parents talk crap about Adam in front of Aubree all the time. She needs to drop the baby voice.

--Kailyn has a massive temper. She, too, wants her time away from the kids. She has 2 kids by two different men at a very young age.

This. I'm surprised anyone still thinks Maci is a good mom at this point. She is damaging the crap out of her son by talking so poorly about his Dad. The way she parents him is gross to watch. I feel sorry for Bentley.

[Anonymous]

I go back and forth with Maci. Yeah, she's the best of this bunch, but... look at the bunch. The bar hasn't been set particularly high.

One thing that really bothered me was a few years ago when she spanked Bentley at the bowling alley. Not that I necessarily objected to her spanking him (based on where they lived, I would have been shocked if she didn't spank) but because the whole thing was a set-up for him. He was 4-5 years old, and she picked him up from school, when he is probably TIRED from his day, and took him right out to the bowling alley. She kept telling him it was a special treat for him, but HER friends are there, not his, and a lot of kids that age don't react well to a sudden change in their routine, even if it's a surprise "treat."

Then during the game, Maci's friends were egging Bentley on with playful teasing, and Bentley responded, they egged him on, he responded, etc. And then whatever he did somehow crossed the imaginary line Maci had put in place, and he gets in trouble.

It bugged me so much because she didn't even seem aware that Bentley was probably tired and cranky from his day at school, then got more stimulation from the bowling alley AND her friends. Of course he's going to snap and act out. I think in that scenario, she could have saved the situation by saying "Time to stop, one more smart mouth remark and we're leaving." And then LEAVE when he does it again. He needed a nap!

Anyway. Maci. The best of the worst.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I go back and forth with Maci. Yeah, she's the best of this bunch, but... look at the bunch. The bar hasn't been set particularly high.

One thing that really bothered me was a few years ago when she spanked Bentley at the bowling alley. Not that I necessarily objected to her spanking him (based on where they lived, I would have been shocked if she didn't spank) but because the whole thing was a set-up for him. He was 4-5 years old, and she picked him up from school, when he is probably TIRED from his day, and took him right out to the bowling alley. She kept telling him it was a special treat for him, but HER friends are there, not his, and a lot of kids that age don't react well to a sudden change in their routine, even if it's a surprise "treat."

Then during the game, Maci's friends were egging Bentley on with playful teasing, and Bentley responded, they egged him on, he responded, etc. And then whatever he did somehow crossed the imaginary line Maci had put in place, and he gets in trouble.

It bugged me so much because she didn't even seem aware that Bentley was probably tired and cranky from his day at school, then got more stimulation from the bowling alley AND her friends. Of course he's going to snap and act out. I think in that scenario, she could have saved the situation by saying "Time to stop, one more smart mouth remark and we're leaving." And then LEAVE when he does it again. He needed a nap!

Anyway. Maci. The best of the worst.

Agree with this and would add that this is how she parents him in general. Invisible lines, unrealistic expectations, the kid doesn't know wth is up. And the Dad is the same way. I disagree that she is the best of the bunch. I think it's not overly obvious how damaging she is emotionally.