Yale breaks own record with # of applications for 2016

[Anonymous]

A large part of the problem can be attributed to the great desire of international students to study here. If you scan the wait lists (waiting for sCEA results) for Ivies and some of the great state schools and Tech Schools, you see a number of posts coming in from China and India from anxious students waiting to hear. The overseas students apply to the schools they've heard about, just like we naturally would think of Oxbridge. But, yeah, the schools DO want as many applicants as possible so as to drive down that selectivity number below 6%. That's why SAT II tests were no longer requires but "strongly suggested". The Ivies in competition for that no. one slot need as many applicants as possible (so they can turn them down) so decided "requiring" the SAT II was too restrictive so changed the language. But you better submit them or else!

[Anonymous]

Admission rates are such a scam. Colleges and US News need to stop reporting them because they are so misleading and easy to manipulate.

Too many people take them literally.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's all about enticing students who never have a chance to apply, then claiming a super low admissions rate.

+1. It is a scam

You picked the wrong example to make this point. Do you actually think that Yale believes that its brand is any stronger because acceptance rates drop from 7% to 6%? It actually makes their job more difficult in many ways.

Don't be silly. Acceptance rates are heavily weighted in college rankings. And btw, the acceptance rate isn't 5-6%. It is more like 20-50% for some demographics and 0% for the rest.

I get it, you were trying to make a funny. How do you account for the 18% of their incoming class that is Pell Grant eligible, which is the most broadly accepted measure of deep need in the education space?

[Anonymous]

All those spitting, swearing, Halloween-hating BLM student protesters must have been a real draw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's all about enticing students who never have a chance to apply, then claiming a super low admissions rate.

+1. It is a scam

You picked the wrong example to make this point. Do you actually think that Yale believes that its brand is any stronger because acceptance rates drop from 7% to 6%? It actually makes their job more difficult in many ways.

Don't be silly. Acceptance rates are heavily weighted in college rankings. And btw, the acceptance rate isn't 5-6%. It is more like 20-50% for some demographics and 0% for the rest.

Like URMs (especially affluent ones), big donor legacy kids and critical sport recruited athletes.

[Anonymous]

What a waste of money. Poor kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A large part of the problem can be attributed to the great desire of international students to study here. If you scan the wait lists (waiting for sCEA results) for Ivies and some of the great state schools and Tech Schools, you see a number of posts coming in from China and India from anxious students waiting to hear. The overseas students apply to the schools they've heard about, just like we naturally would think of Oxbridge. But, yeah, the schools DO want as many applicants as possible so as to drive down that selectivity number below 6%. That's why SAT II tests were no longer requires but "strongly suggested". The Ivies in competition for that no. one slot need as many applicants as possible (so they can turn them down) so decided "requiring" the SAT II was too restrictive so changed the language. But you better submit them or else!

The top schools in those countries are way more competitive vs Yale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A large part of the problem can be attributed to the great desire of international students to study here. If you scan the wait lists (waiting for sCEA results) for Ivies and some of the great state schools and Tech Schools, you see a number of posts coming in from China and India from anxious students waiting to hear. The overseas students apply to the schools they've heard about, just like we naturally would think of Oxbridge. But, yeah, the schools DO want as many applicants as possible so as to drive down that selectivity number below 6%. That's why SAT II tests were no longer requires but "strongly suggested". The Ivies in competition for that no. one slot need as many applicants as possible (so they can turn them down) so decided "requiring" the SAT II was too restrictive so changed the language. But you better submit them or else!

The top schools in those countries are way more competitive vs Yale.

India? Do you know some of those kids are so poor they can't even get to a test site, much less pay for one. So they take MIT online courses to prove they can do the work. Yes, there are wealthy indians but those that I've read on College Confdential are dying to come to any U.S. institution.

[Anonymous]

I interview for Yale. Reality is that almost every student I interview COULD make it at Yale - only once did I meet an applicant and think WTF? So no-hopers are not being encouraged to apply just to up,the numbers. If you want to know why the numbers are so high, most of the posters on this board need to look in the mirror with their "HYP or bust" philosophies. They have turned their kids into decent candidates through coaching and other enrichment, but it means the odds go down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I interview for Yale. Reality is that almost every student I interview COULD make it at Yale - only once did I meet an applicant and think WTF? So no-hopers are not being encouraged to apply just to up,the numbers. If you want to know why the numbers are so high, most of the posters on this board need to look in the mirror with their "HYP or bust" philosophies. They have turned their kids into decent candidates through coaching and other enrichment, but it means the odds go down.

+1 smack that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's all about enticing students who never have a chance to apply, then claiming a super low admissions rate.

+1. It is a scam

You picked the wrong example to make this point. Do you actually think that Yale believes that its brand is any stronger because acceptance rates drop from 7% to 6%? It actually makes their job more difficult in many ways.

Don't be silly. Acceptance rates are heavily weighted in college rankings. And btw, the acceptance rate isn't 5-6%. It is more like 20-50% for some demographics and 0% for the rest.

Like URMs (especially affluent ones), big donor legacy kids and critical sport recruited athletes.

Must make your life easy to have such a simple view of the world. Easy and convenient thesis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's all about enticing students who never have a chance to apply, then claiming a super low admissions rate.

+1. It is a scam

You picked the wrong example to make this point. Do you actually think that Yale believes that its brand is any stronger because acceptance rates drop from 7% to 6%? It actually makes their job more difficult in many ways.

Don't be silly. Acceptance rates are heavily weighted in college rankings. And btw, the acceptance rate isn't 5-6%. It is more like 20-50% for some demographics and 0% for the rest.

Like URMs (especially affluent ones), big donor legacy kids and critical sport recruited athletes.

Must make your life easy to have such a simple view of the world. Easy and convenient thesis.

Feel free to believe what you want. I worked in the admissions office as an undergrad. You have a decent chance of being admitted if you are a URM, someone with a compelling story applying to study an unpopular major, kid of a donor, legacy, from an underrepresented geographical area, highly-recommended kid who goes to a well-known feeder, kid with a well-publicized publication, kid who has won a prestigious national-level award, recruited athlete, successful entrepreneur, or kid who overcame overwhelming health or financial hurdles. For everyone else it is a crapshot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I interview for Yale. Reality is that almost every student I interview COULD make it at Yale - only once did I meet an applicant and think WTF? So no-hopers are not being encouraged to apply just to up,the numbers. If you want to know why the numbers are so high, most of the posters on this board need to look in the mirror with their "HYP or bust" philosophies. They have turned their kids into decent candidates through coaching and other enrichment, but it means the odds go down.

+1 smack that

You're not interviewing in the right zip codes. Some of the kids I see have 0% of being admitted.

[Anonymous]

Me too -- interviewing for a different HYPS. Nice kids, reasonably intelligent, but many don't seem to stand out in any way. Could they do the work at an HYPS? Probably -- it's just not that hard to get a B at these schools. Would you find any reason to pull them out of a pile in which they look like 5K other applicants? No.

So maybe it's not zip codes but different definitions of what constitutes a "no hope" application.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All those spitting, swearing, Halloween-hating BLM student protesters must have been a real draw.

I wonder why Caltech didn't have any BLM protests.