End of Year bonus disappointment

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe that persons income is extrodinarly low and it is a way for the boss to shore her up. I do this with MBOs when maybe the person doesn't fully deserve the full MBO, but their salary is out of wack with everyone else.

Nope. She makes 5k less than I do.

So she makes 5K less than you do, but you got 5K more in bonus than she did? That means you netted 10k more than she did for 2016, correct?

Yes. And if you knew our roles/contributions this would be shocking. I get that I just have to accept it, etc. but this is tough to take. Imagine someone coming in, screwing things up (multiple projects) which leads to more work for you...and then this person gets 100% of her bonus...while you get a smaller percentage of a smaller number (and you are lied to by your boss who claims no one got all of what was expected). So, it's not about this person's amount, per say, it's more about feeling disrespected and lied to by my boss) and feeling like I'm not being treated fairly.

Hmm, I think I've answered my own question, right? It just isn't right. I guess I start looking around in the new year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You're either leaving something out, perhaps not intentionally, or something else is going on. Do you and this employee report to the same person? If not, maybe that person's boss has been instructed differently than your boss?

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We do report to be he same person.

Sorry, autocorrect fail! Yes, we report to the same person. My dollar a out was only about 5k more ( but bear in mind, coworker has only been here 6 months).

I only know this info, by the way, because another coworker (bookkeeper) was shocked and told me and showed me the paperwork.

One over point: my boss lied directly to me b/c he said no one got their full percentage. Clearly not true.

This person should be fired. What was this person hoping to accomplish by telling you this? There is a reason why employees are not supposed to discuss bonuses. It is non of your business what bonus this other person got, OP, just like it is not her business what you received.

Yes, it is wrong for your boss to lie to you. But, it is also (and I think more) wrong for your coworker to show you and for you to look at confidential paperwork.

NP here. See, I disagree with this. Transparency is better than lies. The boss is a bad person, ethically, for not being honest about what's going on with the bonuses. The employee who was shocked and shared the real information is a good person, ethically, for exposing part of the truth about what is happening.

If this company wants to keep its "star" employees, they need to have managers with integrity who reward hard work and are honest when political/economic factors come into play for bonuses. I have seen this dishonest dynamic/rewarding screw-ups hollow out formerly high-performing teams because superstar employees feel undervalued and leave for greener pastures (and they can easily jump ship since they are great at what they do) and the over-recognized screw-ups are all that's left. Dysfunctional.

[Anonymous]

You're walking a knife's edge of inappropriate right now, OP. Be very careful or your next review may not be as flattering as your most recent one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe that persons income is extrodinarly low and it is a way for the boss to shore her up. I do this with MBOs when maybe the person doesn't fully deserve the full MBO, but their salary is out of wack with everyone else.

Nope. She makes 5k less than I do.

So she makes 5K less than you do, but you got 5K more in bonus than she did? That means you netted 10k more than she did for 2016, correct?

Yes. And if you knew our roles/contributions this would be shocking. I get that I just have to accept it, etc. but this is tough to take. Imagine someone coming in, screwing things up (multiple projects) which leads to more work for you...and then this person gets 100% of her bonus...while you get a smaller percentage of a smaller number (and you are lied to by your boss who claims no one got all of what was expected). So, it's not about this person's amount, per say, it's more about feeling disrespected and lied to by my boss) and feeling like I'm not being treated fairly.

Hmm, I think I've answered my own question, right? It just isn't right. I guess I start looking around in the new year.

Yes, you start looking, you leverage that promotion you got this year, and you only give your crappy manager the standard 2 weeks notice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're walking a knife's edge of inappropriate right now, OP. Be very careful or your next review may not be as flattering as your most recent one.

It's inappropriate for OP to be upset at getting a lower percentage bonus than a worse employee and to be upset their boss lied? In what way? OP is not a slave to their company, my dear.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You're walking a knife's edge of inappropriate right now, OP. Be very careful or your next review may not be as flattering as your most recent one.

It's inappropriate for OP to be upset at getting a lower percentage bonus than a worse employee and to be upset their boss lied? In what way? OP is not a slave to their company, my dear.

Yes, it is. It's also inappropriate to go whining about it in public.

[Anonymous]

This is why you shouldn't discuss bonus or salary with co workers. Also, just because she says she got one thing doesn't make it true.

[Anonymous]

Did you complain about your bonus to your coworker? that was your first mistake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why you shouldn't discuss bonus or salary with co workers. Also, just because she says she got one thing doesn't make it true.

Yup. I have a coworker that apparently can't remember the amount in her bonus as she's told 4 people 4 different things depending on who asks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe that persons income is extrodinarly low and it is a way for the boss to shore her up. I do this with MBOs when maybe the person doesn't fully deserve the full MBO, but their salary is out of wack with everyone else.

Nope. She makes 5k less than I do.

So she makes 5K less than you do, but you got 5K more in bonus than she did? That means you netted 10k more than she did for 2016, correct?

Yes. And if you knew our roles/contributions this would be shocking. I get that I just have to accept it, etc. but this is tough to take. Imagine someone coming in, screwing things up (multiple projects) which leads to more work for you...and then this person gets 100% of her bonus...while you get a smaller percentage of a smaller number (and you are lied to by your boss who claims no one got all of what was expected). So, it's not about this person's amount, per say, it's more about feeling disrespected and lied to by my boss) and feeling like I'm not being treated fairly.

Hmm, I think I've answered my own question, right? It just isn't right. I guess I start looking around in the new year.

It's per se. Your shit might not smell as fresh as you think it does, OP.

[Anonymous]

We had a tough year last year and all the execs agreed to a cut off their bonus while everyone else got the same bonus.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if your coworker was pushier--maybe she argued for more and they gave her more.

[Anonymous]

The bookkeeper should be fired, pay and bonus information is highly confidential. She showed OP the paperwork?? She doesn't deserve to be in that line of work. I completely understand your frustration, OP, maybe it's time to look for a new job.

[Anonymous]

I got a $300 bonus. I wish I could complain about only getting 5k

[Anonymous]

I just told my kid this morning: life isn't fair get over it. Complain if it makes you feel better but don't expect it to help. Companies can pretty much do whatever they want to when it comes to compensation.

Time for you to look for your next job.