Is it normal that a child doesn't read aloud at school?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

This is probably a dumb question from the parent of a younger kid: how does the teacher then ascertain reading levels and progress and such? im not suggesting that kids be put on the spot or forced to read to the whole class, but if the kids arent reading aloud to the teacher at all, it sounds like that leaves too much room for assumptions to be made. Is the parent to alert the teacher if they notice an issue?


I don't think that is a dumb question at all. I was a teacher and I don't understand either. Once the child is reading on a higher level, I can see how you could ask questions about what they have read, etc., but I don't see how you can teach early readers without the child reading aloud. In my experience, it was a lot more difficult to get the child to read silently than aloud.

Perhaps, the 504 plan says that the child does not have to read aloud in front of other kids?






18:03 Yes, I don't understand it either. I guess reading comprehension was the only thing assessed. Fluency must have been assumed to be adequate.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No. I'm asking if it's a normal process that the child doesn't read aloud at school?

At our school they don't, but expect the kids to do it at home.


My child has dyslexia; her reading level is below her peers and she mumbles terribly when she reads out loud. I'm really happy that she's not put on the spot and that her differences aren't highlighted to her friends.



Completely understand about being out on the spot. Not being required to read out loud is in my dyslexic child's 504 plan.


Yes, but being skipped over when kids read around the room is just as embarrassing. Reading out loud to a teacher individually is great and important; reading out loud individually in a group setting is not necessary.
Anonymous
OP here. It's not just my child not reading. No one is reading aloud in class.

There is no reading aloud unless some parents volunteer to listen to them

Is this standard at schools?

When I grew up we read aloud daily in school. I'm not from here, so it's new to me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In our school (not in DC area) it is left upon parents to have their kid read aloud to them. So far K and 1st grade. They don't do it at school. Occasionally they have silent reading.

Is this a normal practice?
No, especially if the teacher is conducting reading groups he or she needs to hear the children reading in order to determine what they need to work on.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No. I'm asking if it's a normal process that the child doesn't read aloud at school?

At our school they don't, but expect the kids to do it at home.


My child has dyslexia; her reading level is below her peers and she mumbles terribly when she reads out loud. I'm really happy that she's not put on the spot and that her differences aren't highlighted to her friends.

Reading aloud is not the same as round robin reading. The practice is not to have every student read aloud to the class. They should be reading aloud at the guided reading table so the teacher can hear them read.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is probably a dumb question from the parent of a younger kid: how does the teacher then ascertain reading levels and progress and such? im not suggesting that kids be put on the spot or forced to read to the whole class, but if the kids arent reading aloud to the teacher at all, it sounds like that leaves too much room for assumptions to be made. Is the parent to alert the teacher if they notice an issue?
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. It's not just my child not reading. No one is reading aloud in class.

There is no reading aloud unless some parents volunteer to listen to them

Is this standard at schools?

When I grew up we read aloud daily in school. I'm not from here, so it's new to me.
You should get clarification from the teacher as to what is really happening during reading time. You should be concerned if it is isn't happening. Keep in mind it is the beginning of the school year and reading groups have likely not yet been formed as teachers are still establishing community, routines, and assessing.
Anonymous
I teach 2nd grade and my students read aloud to me individually a minimum of three times per year during assessments. If they don't meet the benchmark, I reassess them appr. every 2 weeks. We also read aloud during reading groups.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

This is probably a dumb question from the parent of a younger kid: how does the teacher then ascertain reading levels and progress and such? im not suggesting that kids be put on the spot or forced to read to the whole class, but if the kids arent reading aloud to the teacher at all, it sounds like that leaves too much room for assumptions to be made. Is the parent to alert the teacher if they notice an issue?


I don't think that is a dumb question at all. I was a teacher and I don't understand either. Once the child is reading on a higher level, I can see how you could ask questions about what they have read, etc., but I don't see how you can teach early readers without the child reading aloud. In my experience, it was a lot more difficult to get the child to read silently than aloud.

Perhaps, the 504 plan says that the child does not have to read aloud in front of other kids?






18:03 Yes, I don't understand it either. I guess reading comprehension was the only thing assessed. Fluency must have been assumed to be adequate.


Thanks -- I'm the pp with the younger kid. I really was wondering if I was missing something -- and it doesn't sound like I am. I have no idea how a K/1st teacher could do any sort of adequate assessment if there is zero reading aloud. Even if it isn't in a group setting, a 1:1 situation as described by the 2nd grade teacher PP seems like the only possibility.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
You should get clarification from the teacher as to what is really happening during reading time. You should be concerned if it is isn't happening. Keep in mind it is the beginning of the school year and reading groups have likely not yet been formed as teachers are still establishing community, routines, and assessing.


That's the thing - there is no reading time.

They've been in school since first days of August.

They don't have reading groups. They also didn't have them in K and didn't read aloud unless volunteers came.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

This is probably a dumb question from the parent of a younger kid: how does the teacher then ascertain reading levels and progress and such? im not suggesting that kids be put on the spot or forced to read to the whole class, but if the kids arent reading aloud to the teacher at all, it sounds like that leaves too much room for assumptions to be made. Is the parent to alert the teacher if they notice an issue?


I don't think that is a dumb question at all. I was a teacher and I don't understand either. Once the child is reading on a higher level, I can see how you could ask questions about what they have read, etc., but I don't see how you can teach early readers without the child reading aloud. In my experience, it was a lot more difficult to get the child to read silently than aloud.

Perhaps, the 504 plan says that the child does not have to read aloud in front of other kids?






18:03 Yes, I don't understand it either. I guess reading comprehension was the only thing assessed. Fluency must have been assumed to be adequate.


Thanks -- I'm the pp with the younger kid. I really was wondering if I was missing something -- and it doesn't sound like I am. I have no idea how a K/1st teacher could do any sort of adequate assessment if there is zero reading aloud. Even if it isn't in a group setting, a 1:1 situation as described by the 2nd grade teacher PP seems like the only possibility.


Yes, I don't think they do an assessment on fluency in FCPS regularly or perhaps they just observe children reading to their friend. We actually had the same experience in private. I've decided 20 plus children just does not leave a lot of time for individual reading with the teacher. They expect my K child to tell back stories and make inferences though and they do work on these skills regularly.
Anonymous
Third grade teacher here--I don't think it's at all normal. My students don't round-robin read or read aloud to the whole class. If I do choose someone to read aloud to whole class, I make sure it's a fluent reader. Each of my students reads aloud (whisper read) to me at least once a week either in reading groups or reading conferences. If students aren't reading for at least 30 minutes a day at school, that is a huge problem. However, that reading can and should include reading with a partner or the teacher in addition to reading independently.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Normal in DCPS. I recall being read to through 2nd grade or so as a kid, during library time.


I imagine you were in second grade more than a few years ago. This is not correct today. DCPS assesses fluency in reading and comprehension by having students read out loud to the teacher. The kids also read their own writing out loud at publishing parties (unless an IEP provides and alternative method). My kids have been reading out loud at school since K (they weren't there for preK, so I can't speak to that grade). They also hear stories read to them, of course.
Anonymous
Here's the deal at our DCPS school. Round-robin reading, where each child would read aloud a paragraph or whatever is out.

Students do whisper-read to teachers several times a week, who take notes on miscues to gather data on what that particular child needs to learn.

Students periodically read aloud to a teacher to be assessed for comprehension and fluency.

During fluency stations, students read aloud to each other in pairs.
Anonymous
I hadn't thought about whether DD reads aloud in class. Am I the only one??? I asked after reading this discussion and she reads aloud daily in class, according to her. She said that everyone doesn't have to read, but her teacher allows students to volunteer to read. This is first grade.
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