Let's end vocal fry!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the article: "And maybe, just maybe, we should all try to worry less about the way people speak (or dress or...) and instead try to actually listen to and hear what they're saying.
So vocal fry? Don't vocal fry? Do what you want! Because if our crappy earbud headphones have taught us anything, it's that content matters more than the quality of delivery."

Yeah sorry I know this was a posting fail- I like the video but totally disagree with the article. In all parts of life it is not what people say but how they say it. If you uptalk, can't speak with conviction, fry your words, etc I can't take you seriously.

Yes, and I'm a woman in a position to decide whether I hire you, or not.

The 'get a life' PPs may want to consider that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article: "And maybe, just maybe, we should all try to worry less about the way people speak (or dress or...) and instead try to actually listen to and hear what they're saying.
So vocal fry? Don't vocal fry? Do what you want! Because if our crappy earbud headphones have taught us anything, it's that content matters more than the quality of delivery."

Yeah sorry I know this was a posting fail- I like the video but totally disagree with the article. In all parts of life it is not what people say but how they say it. If you uptalk, can't speak with conviction, fry your words, etc I can't take you seriously.

Yes, and I'm a woman in a position to decide whether I hire you, or not.

The 'get a life' PPs may want to consider that.

Consider that maybe many of the PPs have no desire to work for/with someone who would hire someone based on something so trivial...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article: "And maybe, just maybe, we should all try to worry less about the way people speak (or dress or...) and instead try to actually listen to and hear what they're saying.
So vocal fry? Don't vocal fry? Do what you want! Because if our crappy earbud headphones have taught us anything, it's that content matters more than the quality of delivery."

Yeah sorry I know this was a posting fail- I like the video but totally disagree with the article. In all parts of life it is not what people say but how they say it. If you uptalk, can't speak with conviction, fry your words, etc I can't take you seriously.

Yes, and I'm a woman in a position to decide whether I hire you, or not.

The 'get a life' PPs may want to consider that.

Consider that maybe many of the PPs have no desire to work for/with someone who would hire someone based on something so trivial...

NP. That's so stupid. Are you going to not go to a job interview based on whether or not the people interviewing you are biased against vocal fry? LOL. Perhaps you should read http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/employers-look-down-on-women-with-vocal-fry/371811/

[Anonymous]

"In a new study, people said they were less likely to hire speakers who used the creaky-voiced affectation, particularly when they were female."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article: "And maybe, just maybe, we should all try to worry less about the way people speak (or dress or...) and instead try to actually listen to and hear what they're saying.
So vocal fry? Don't vocal fry? Do what you want! Because if our crappy earbud headphones have taught us anything, it's that content matters more than the quality of delivery."

Yeah sorry I know this was a posting fail- I like the video but totally disagree with the article. In all parts of life it is not what people say but how they say it. If you uptalk, can't speak with conviction, fry your words, etc I can't take you seriously.

Yes, and I'm a woman in a position to decide whether I hire you, or not.

The 'get a life' PPs may want to consider that.

Consider that maybe many of the PPs have no desire to work for/with someone who would hire someone based on something so trivial...

NP. That's so stupid. Are you going to not go to a job interview based on whether or not the people interviewing you are biased against vocal fry? LOL. Perhaps you should read http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/employers-look-down-on-women-with-vocal-fry/371811/

Nope, there's no way of even knowing that in advance. I have a job I love, anyway.

But I would be happy if someone rejected me based on me speaking with vocal fry (I don't, but in case I did). Someone who would judge someone on such an arbitrary characteristic is probably not that intelligent and also fairly sexist.

No thanks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article: "And maybe, just maybe, we should all try to worry less about the way people speak (or dress or...) and instead try to actually listen to and hear what they're saying.
So vocal fry? Don't vocal fry? Do what you want! Because if our crappy earbud headphones have taught us anything, it's that content matters more than the quality of delivery."

Yeah sorry I know this was a posting fail- I like the video but totally disagree with the article. In all parts of life it is not what people say but how they say it. If you uptalk, can't speak with conviction, fry your words, etc I can't take you seriously.

Yes, and I'm a woman in a position to decide whether I hire you, or not.

The 'get a life' PPs may want to consider that.

Consider that maybe many of the PPs have no desire to work for/with someone who would hire someone based on something so trivial...

NP. That's so stupid. Are you going to not go to a job interview based on whether or not the people interviewing you are biased against vocal fry? LOL. Perhaps you should read http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/employers-look-down-on-women-with-vocal-fry/371811/

Nope, there's no way of even knowing that in advance. I have a job I love, anyway.

But I would be happy if someone rejected me based on me speaking with vocal fry (I don't, but in case I did). Someone who would judge someone on such an arbitrary characteristic is probably not that intelligent and also fairly sexist.

No thanks.

Or they are just put off by people who sound really annoying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article: "And maybe, just maybe, we should all try to worry less about the way people speak (or dress or...) and instead try to actually listen to and hear what they're saying.
So vocal fry? Don't vocal fry? Do what you want! Because if our crappy earbud headphones have taught us anything, it's that content matters more than the quality of delivery."

Yeah sorry I know this was a posting fail- I like the video but totally disagree with the article. In all parts of life it is not what people say but how they say it. If you uptalk, can't speak with conviction, fry your words, etc I can't take you seriously.

Yes, and I'm a woman in a position to decide whether I hire you, or not.

The 'get a life' PPs may want to consider that.

Consider that maybe many of the PPs have no desire to work for/with someone who would hire someone based on something so trivial...

NP. That's so stupid. Are you going to not go to a job interview based on whether or not the people interviewing you are biased against vocal fry? LOL. Perhaps you should read http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/employers-look-down-on-women-with-vocal-fry/371811/

Nope, there's no way of even knowing that in advance. I have a job I love, anyway.

But I would be happy if someone rejected me based on me speaking with vocal fry (I don't, but in case I did). Someone who would judge someone on such an arbitrary characteristic is probably not that intelligent and also fairly sexist.

No thanks.

Or they are just put off by people who sound really annoying.

Examine your internalized misogyny, my dear. It won't hurt to learn to question things, I promise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article: "And maybe, just maybe, we should all try to worry less about the way people speak (or dress or...) and instead try to actually listen to and hear what they're saying.
So vocal fry? Don't vocal fry? Do what you want! Because if our crappy earbud headphones have taught us anything, it's that content matters more than the quality of delivery."

Yeah sorry I know this was a posting fail- I like the video but totally disagree with the article. In all parts of life it is not what people say but how they say it. If you uptalk, can't speak with conviction, fry your words, etc I can't take you seriously.

Yes, and I'm a woman in a position to decide whether I hire you, or not.

The 'get a life' PPs may want to consider that.

Consider that maybe many of the PPs have no desire to work for/with someone who would hire someone based on something so trivial...

NP. That's so stupid. Are you going to not go to a job interview based on whether or not the people interviewing you are biased against vocal fry? LOL. Perhaps you should read http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/employers-look-down-on-women-with-vocal-fry/371811/

Nope, there's no way of even knowing that in advance. I have a job I love, anyway.

But I would be happy if someone rejected me based on me speaking with vocal fry (I don't, but in case I did). Someone who would judge someone on such an arbitrary characteristic is probably not that intelligent and also fairly sexist.

No thanks.

Or they are just put off by people who sound really annoying.

You speak like someone who would talk with vocal fry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article: "And maybe, just maybe, we should all try to worry less about the way people speak (or dress or...) and instead try to actually listen to and hear what they're saying.
So vocal fry? Don't vocal fry? Do what you want! Because if our crappy earbud headphones have taught us anything, it's that content matters more than the quality of delivery."

Yeah sorry I know this was a posting fail- I like the video but totally disagree with the article. In all parts of life it is not what people say but how they say it. If you uptalk, can't speak with conviction, fry your words, etc I can't take you seriously.

Yes, and I'm a woman in a position to decide whether I hire you, or not.

The 'get a life' PPs may want to consider that.

Consider that maybe many of the PPs have no desire to work for/with someone who would hire someone based on something so trivial...

NP. That's so stupid. Are you going to not go to a job interview based on whether or not the people interviewing you are biased against vocal fry? LOL. Perhaps you should read http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/employers-look-down-on-women-with-vocal-fry/371811/

Nope, there's no way of even knowing that in advance. I have a job I love, anyway.

But I would be happy if someone rejected me based on me speaking with vocal fry (I don't, but in case I did). Someone who would judge someone on such an arbitrary characteristic is probably not that intelligent and also fairly sexist.

No thanks.

Or they are just put off by people who sound really annoying.

You speak like someone who would talk with vocal fry.

Ah but I can't tell if that's a compliment or an insult coming from you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article: "And maybe, just maybe, we should all try to worry less about the way people speak (or dress or...) and instead try to actually listen to and hear what they're saying.
So vocal fry? Don't vocal fry? Do what you want! Because if our crappy earbud headphones have taught us anything, it's that content matters more than the quality of delivery."

Yeah sorry I know this was a posting fail- I like the video but totally disagree with the article. In all parts of life it is not what people say but how they say it. If you uptalk, can't speak with conviction, fry your words, etc I can't take you seriously.

Yes, and I'm a woman in a position to decide whether I hire you, or not.

The 'get a life' PPs may want to consider that.

Consider that maybe many of the PPs have no desire to work for/with someone who would hire someone based on something so trivial...

NP. That's so stupid. Are you going to not go to a job interview based on whether or not the people interviewing you are biased against vocal fry? LOL. Perhaps you should read http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/employers-look-down-on-women-with-vocal-fry/371811/

Nope, there's no way of even knowing that in advance. I have a job I love, anyway.

But I would be happy if someone rejected me based on me speaking with vocal fry (I don't, but in case I did). Someone who would judge someone on such an arbitrary characteristic is probably not that intelligent and also fairly sexist.

No thanks.

Or they are just put off by people who sound really annoying.

You speak like someone who would talk with vocal fry.

Ah but I can't tell if that's a compliment or an insult coming from you.

I guess, according to you, it would be an insult....

[Anonymous]

I'd much rather listen to vocal fry than listen to my teenage son's girl friends say literally all the time. It's becoming the new "like". Instead of "He like, called me yesterday!" now it is "He literally called me yesterday."

It literally makes me insane!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd much rather listen to vocal fry than listen to my teenage son's girl friends say literally all the time. It's becoming the new "like". Instead of "He like, called me yesterday!" now it is "He literally called me yesterday."

It literally makes me insane!

Haha I literally agree so much with you! It's so annoying!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd much rather listen to vocal fry than listen to my teenage son's girl friends say literally all the time. It's becoming the new "like". Instead of "He like, called me yesterday!" now it is "He literally called me yesterday."

It literally makes me insane!

But did he call her yesterday? It sounds annoying but would be significantly more annoying if he didn't literally call her yesterday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the article: "And maybe, just maybe, we should all try to worry less about the way people speak (or dress or...) and instead try to actually listen to and hear what they're saying.
So vocal fry? Don't vocal fry? Do what you want! Because if our crappy earbud headphones have taught us anything, it's that content matters more than the quality of delivery."

Yeah sorry I know this was a posting fail- I like the video but totally disagree with the article. In all parts of life it is not what people say but how they say it. If you uptalk, can't speak with conviction, fry your words, etc I can't take you seriously.

Yes, and I'm a woman in a position to decide whether I hire you, or not.

The 'get a life' PPs may want to consider that.

You wouldn't hire a girl/woman because she speaks with vocal fry? I guess you must be deluged with highly-qualified applicants.

Note that men creak, and men uptalk -- it's just that nobody minds when men do it. They only mind when girls/women do it. Why do you suppose that is?

http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=20155

[Anonymous]

Op here and I find it really annoying when men do it too. There's one commentator in NPR-I can't even listen to him. It's probably generational. I'm a crabby gen-xer.