It just sucks - not even offered internship - (sigh)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, OP, but I don't feel bad. This is a conscious choice you made, to give up your career and be supported by your husband, and you are now perceived as always putting career on the back burner. PTSA and HOA simply don't translate to the real world.

Alimony = a woman without pride

Eff this noise and I don't get it and likely never will, but I'm not going hungry and/or homeless behind some pride BS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, OP, but I don't feel bad. This is a conscious choice you made, to give up your career and be supported by your husband, and you are now perceived as always putting career on the back burner. PTSA and HOA simply don't translate to the real world.

^^ burned by the ex-wife for alimony, are ya?

Uh, hardly. I'm a (female, with young kids) hiring manager who would never pass up a motivated young recent grad for someone who quit voluntarily and is now out of the game. Harsh but true. Based on OP's post I'm not alone.

I am sorry you are so bitter that someone else is raising your children while you work your important job of hiring manager.
Some women can handle that other women made the choice to stay home, but you obviously can't. I'm sorry for you.

You go ahead and hire millennials and I'll be laughing at all the training and behavior modification your organization will need to do because of your misguided philosophy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, OP, but I don't feel bad. This is a conscious choice you made, to give up your career and be supported by your husband, and you are now perceived as always putting career on the back burner. PTSA and HOA simply don't translate to the real world.

^^ burned by the ex-wife for alimony, are ya?

Uh, hardly. I'm a (female, with young kids) hiring manager who would never pass up a motivated young recent grad for someone who quit voluntarily and is now out of the game. Harsh but true. Based on OP's post I'm not alone.

A woman's worst enemy is another woman.

So, pp, your job is soooooo important and keeps you sooooo busy, but you're here on DCUM ready to pounce on a SAHM trying to return to the workforce within two minutes of her posting. Hope you're proud of yourself and your workday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, OP, but I don't feel bad. This is a conscious choice you made, to give up your career and be supported by your husband, and you are now perceived as always putting career on the back burner. PTSA and HOA simply don't translate to the real world.

Alimony = a woman without pride

Eff this noise and I don't get it and likely never will, but I'm not going hungry and/or homeless behind some pride BS.

So you're a hooker. Cool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, OP, but I don't feel bad. This is a conscious choice you made, to give up your career and be supported by your husband, and you are now perceived as always putting career on the back burner. PTSA and HOA simply don't translate to the real world.

^^ burned by the ex-wife for alimony, are ya?

Uh, hardly. I'm a (female, with young kids) hiring manager who would never pass up a motivated young recent grad for someone who quit voluntarily and is now out of the game. Harsh but true. Based on OP's post I'm not alone.

Agree. Why should I hire someone who quit to depend on someone else when there's an eager, dedicated person in competition?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, OP, but I don't feel bad. This is a conscious choice you made, to give up your career and be supported by your husband, and you are now perceived as always putting career on the back burner. PTSA and HOA simply don't translate to the real world.

^^ burned by the ex-wife for alimony, are ya?

Uh, hardly. I'm a (female, with young kids) hiring manager who would never pass up a motivated young recent grad for someone who quit voluntarily and is now out of the game. Harsh but true. Based on OP's post I'm not alone.

I am sorry you are so bitter that someone else is raising your children while you work your important job of hiring manager.
Some women can handle that other women made the choice to stay home, but you obviously can't. I'm sorry for you.

You go ahead and hire millennials and I'll be laughing at all the training and behavior modification your organization will need to do because of your misguided philosophy!

Who's ageist now?

[Anonymous]

OP - keep your chin up and keep at it - I would go for anything in your field, whether it's below, at or above where you were when you left. You should definitely be prepared to show how you've kept up with your field - e.g., by participating in professional conferences, reading up, going to seminars.

Good luck and remember to come back and tell us about your fabulous new job - it will happen, just maybe not as quickly as you had hoped.

[Anonymous]

I have to kind of agree with the hiring manager PP.

OP, it is exactly that fact that you have skills that I wouldn't hire you. Like any employers, a lot of time and effort goes into training. You aren't going to be happy long in an entry level position, so the chances that I can retain you long enough in that position to recoup the cost of actually hiring you are much less than if I hire a new grad.

Would it be easier and better for me to hire you? Yes, but I have a business to run and it isn't as simple as finding a candidate for right now. Ideally, I don't want to have to fill the same position very often. You're only looking at the position I have to fill as a stepping stone or means to an end, because you can't find anything better. As soon as you have getting back into the workforce on your resume, you'll be looking for something else (likely elsewhere) and I'll be back at square 1 with the same position to fill. The new grad actually needs the position and will stick around for a while while getting the experience they need. In the meantime, I can groom them to my organizations needs so I can help them move up when it's time.

[Anonymous]

I know a handful of folks who have been able to make this kind of "on-ramping" work well, but they have gone back to their former employers. Is that an option?

[Anonymous]

Some moms I've seen come back have started part time in similar positions. Any chance of that, OP, so you can get your foot in the door while not costing too much?

[Anonymous]

You need to start networking or parlay your recent experience into a real position. You have PTSA and HOA experience - how about work at as a school admin or a real estate office? Both might be able to be flexible. There are campaigns coming up this year - maybe you can work for one of those? Start contacting the various candidates - aren't there over 100 running for President so far? They all have DC-area offices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, OP, but I don't feel bad. This is a conscious choice you made, to give up your career and be supported by your husband, and you are now perceived as always putting career on the back burner. PTSA and HOA simply don't translate to the real world.

^^ burned by the ex-wife for alimony, are ya?

Uh, hardly. I'm a (female, with young kids) hiring manager who would never pass up a motivated young recent grad for someone who quit voluntarily and is now out of the game. Harsh but true. Based on OP's post I'm not alone.

Agree. Why should I hire someone who quit to depend on someone else when there's an eager, dedicated person in competition?

I would hire the best person cause chances are this young college grad may start a family soon enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, OP, but I don't feel bad. This is a conscious choice you made, to give up your career and be supported by your husband, and you are now perceived as always putting career on the back burner. PTSA and HOA simply don't translate to the real world.

^^ burned by the ex-wife for alimony, are ya?

Uh, hardly. I'm a (female, with young kids) hiring manager who would never pass up a motivated young recent grad for someone who quit voluntarily and is now out of the game. Harsh but true. Based on OP's post I'm not alone.

Just another example of women attacking other women for making different choices. Women are so much worse to other women that men every have or ever will be. Shameful.

This is true.

+2 Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, OP, but I don't feel bad. This is a conscious choice you made, to give up your career and be supported by your husband, and you are now perceived as always putting career on the back burner. PTSA and HOA simply don't translate to the real world.

^^ burned by the ex-wife for alimony, are ya?

Uh, hardly. I'm a (female, with young kids) hiring manager who would never pass up a motivated young recent grad for someone who quit voluntarily and is now out of the game. Harsh but true. Based on OP's post I'm not alone.

I am sorry you are so bitter that someone else is raising your children while you work your important job of hiring manager.
Some women can handle that other women made the choice to stay home, but you obviously can't. I'm sorry for you.

You go ahead and hire millennials and I'll be laughing at all the training and behavior modification your organization will need to do because of your misguided philosophy!

Although I disagree with your "someone else is raising your children" comment, I am with you in terms of hiring millennials vs. an older worker.

My company prefers new grads....they are cheap and have great enthusiasm. Of the 8 new hires we on boarded this past year - only one of them is still with us. Enthusiasm is great, but we didn't need idea people..we wanted staff that can make solid decisions and execute on a given plan. We don't want everything to be about social media, we didn't appreciate the amount of time spent on chatting, complaining about how things are done around here, and the entitlement. It was comical to see how serious these kids were about how we are not meeting their expectations! We let them all go, except for the one and hired 4 "older" contractors who have been very impressive and get the job done. You get what you pay for.

[Anonymous]

I agree you are aiming to low. Shoot for a midlevel, non supervisory position. Get some confidence in your abilities. Go read some motivating women in business books for pointers.