Kumon - any regrets ?

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Anonymous wrote:Wast of time

+1 It's all rote memorization.

Which is actually pretty important, IMO. You don't get enough of that in school.

Exactly. My daughter has always been pretty good at math, but she was a little slow in finishing her work. After just 2-3 months in Kumon, she could complete 100 addition/subtraction math problems in under 10 minutes with 100% accuracy. She definitely did not do that before Kumon. Her math confidence has also soared. Kumon is a serious commitment for sure (in both time and money), but I think that it's well worth it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wast of time

+1 It's all rote memorization.

Which is actually pretty important, IMO. You don't get enough of that in school.

Exactly. My daughter has always been pretty good at math, but she was a little slow in finishing her work. After just 2-3 months in Kumon, she could complete 100 addition/subtraction math problems in under 10 minutes with 100% accuracy. She definitely did not do that before Kumon. Her math confidence has also soared. Kumon is a serious commitment for sure (in both time and money), but I think that it's well worth it.

The reason east Asian countries (Singapore, China, Korea) are so highly ranked in mathematics in the primary and secondary levels is because of the fact that their education system is based on rote memorization. For the type of math Kumon teaches, rote memorization is the best method.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wast of time

+1 It's all rote memorization.

Which is actually pretty important, IMO. You don't get enough of that in school.

Exactly. My daughter has always been pretty good at math, but she was a little slow in finishing her work. After just 2-3 months in Kumon, she could complete 100 addition/subtraction math problems in under 10 minutes with 100% accuracy. She definitely did not do that before Kumon. Her math confidence has also soared. Kumon is a serious commitment for sure (in both time and money), but I think that it's well worth it.

The reason east Asian countries (Singapore, China, Korea) are so highly ranked in mathematics in the primary and secondary levels is because of the fact that their education system is based on rote memorization. For the type of math Kumon teaches, rote memorization is the best method.

Yep. The waiting room at my Kumon center is full of African, Asian and other immigrant parents. It seems as if only American(ized) parents are concerned about the "danger" of rote memorization.

[Anonymous]

No regrets here. We are going on a year. Our DD got a 147 IQ in quantatative reasoning on wisc v but low speed due to dysgraphia. She's got the problem solving down and gets good practice at school with Singapore curriculum. Kumon is EXACTLY what she needs. She would not get this kind of work any other way. She's working 2 grades ahead.

[Anonymous]

Seriously, can someone here answer the question about how much Kumon costs? Y'all guard it like a state secret.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just curious, how much does it cost?

I want to say $200 month. Or maybe it's $100 per subject.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious, how much does it cost?

I want to say $200 month. Or maybe it's $100 per subject.

Is that once a week for 1 hour?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wast of time

+1 It's all rote memorization.

Which is actually pretty important, IMO. You don't get enough of that in school.

Exactly. My daughter has always been pretty good at math, but she was a little slow in finishing her work. After just 2-3 months in Kumon, she could complete 100 addition/subtraction math problems in under 10 minutes with 100% accuracy. She definitely did not do that before Kumon. Her math confidence has also soared. Kumon is a serious commitment for sure (in both time and money), but I think that it's well worth it.

The reason east Asian countries (Singapore, China, Korea) are so highly ranked in mathematics in the primary and secondary levels is because of the fact that their education system is based on rote memorization. For the type of math Kumon teaches, rote memorization is the best method.

Yep. The waiting room at my Kumon center is full of African, Asian and other immigrant parents. It seems as if only American(ized) parents are concerned about the "danger" of rote memorization.

Yep, had the sweetest Ethiopian Uber driver last week who could barely speak English, but told me all about enrolling her 5 year old in Kumon.

I might give it a try because I think that memorizing math facts is really important. I only think it's negative when it's in a high-pressure setting (like lots of tests when the child isn't actually prepared). that's demonstrated to actually cause math anxiety. but if Kumon makes it fun I'm all for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious, how much does it cost?

I want to say $200 month. Or maybe it's $100 per subject.

Is that once a week for 1 hour?

It's twice per week in the Kumon Center. It takes as long as your child takes to finish the work. It could be 20 minutes, or an hour and a half. The other five days, your child does daily homework (it's 10 pages and the amount of time depends on your child). In this area, the cost ranges from about $150 to $175/month PER subject.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious, how much does it cost?

I want to say $200 month. Or maybe it's $100 per subject.

Is that once a week for 1 hour?

It's twice per week in the Kumon Center. It takes as long as your child takes to finish the work. It could be 20 minutes, or an hour and a half. The other five days, your child does daily homework (it's 10 pages and the amount of time depends on your child). In this area, the cost ranges from about $150 to $175/month PER subject.

Thanks, that's not bad at all. It would definitely save me some stress.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious, how much does it cost?

I want to say $200 month. Or maybe it's $100 per subject.

Is that once a week for 1 hour?

It's twice per week in the Kumon Center. It takes as long as your child takes to finish the work. It could be 20 minutes, or an hour and a half. The other five days, your child does daily homework (it's 10 pages and the amount of time depends on your child). In this area, the cost ranges from about $150 to $175/month PER subject.

Thanks, that's not bad at all. It would definitely save me some stress.

You have to force your kids to do the worksheets and grade them yourself. Then you have to drive your kid to the center twice a week, not for instruction but to sit at the center and do worksheets. It's incredibly boring for the kids. My kids did it for a while at the Falls Church center. They said Mrs. K. was mean and yelled at kids. One of my kids tell she now (years later) that it was helpful. The other has ADHD and LDs (which we did not know then) It was torture for her. I'd say it's good for structure, but expensive for what you actually get. Whether it's worth it depends on the kid. I ended up 50/50.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious, how much does it cost?

I want to say $200 month. Or maybe it's $100 per subject.

Is that once a week for 1 hour?

It's twice per week in the Kumon Center. It takes as long as your child takes to finish the work. It could be 20 minutes, or an hour and a half. The other five days, your child does daily homework (it's 10 pages and the amount of time depends on your child). In this area, the cost ranges from about $150 to $175/month PER subject.

Thanks, that's not bad at all. It would definitely save me some stress.

You have to force your kids to do the worksheets and grade them yourself. Then you have to drive your kid to the center twice a week, not for instruction but to sit at the center and do worksheets. It's incredibly boring for the kids. My kids did it for a while at the Falls Church center. They said Mrs. K. was mean and yelled at kids. One of my kids tell she now (years later) that it was helpful. The other has ADHD and LDs (which we did not know then) It was torture for her. I'd say it's good for structure, but expensive for what you actually get. Whether it's worth it depends on the kid. I ended up 50/50.

My experience has been completely different. I don't have to force my children to do the worksheets because we have emphasized, from the start, that school work comes first. Everything, and I mean absolutely everything, is secondary to academic achievement and working hard in school. Although my husband and I correct the Kumon worksheets (because we want to closely track their progress), the owner of the Kumon center we use told us that we don't have to correct the worksheets because they will do it anyway. Btw, my children are at the very top of their classes, thanks to the practice, discipline and sense of responsibility that Kumon has introduced; and that we have reinforced at home.

Look, my husband and I consider ourselves to be our children's primary educators, and we spend a lot of time encouraging and supporting their academic growth. Our children excel because we have set the bar high. You get out of it what you put into it. No wonder immigrants come to this country and whip our asses in the classroom. So many of you American parents are unwilling to be inconvenienced for the sake of your children's education. Good luck with that!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious, how much does it cost?

I want to say $200 month. Or maybe it's $100 per subject.

Is that once a week for 1 hour?

It's twice per week in the Kumon Center. It takes as long as your child takes to finish the work. It could be 20 minutes, or an hour and a half. The other five days, your child does daily homework (it's 10 pages and the amount of time depends on your child). In this area, the cost ranges from about $150 to $175/month PER subject.

Thanks, that's not bad at all. It would definitely save me some stress.

You have to force your kids to do the worksheets and grade them yourself. Then you have to drive your kid to the center twice a week, not for instruction but to sit at the center and do worksheets. It's incredibly boring for the kids. My kids did it for a while at the Falls Church center. They said Mrs. K. was mean and yelled at kids. One of my kids tell she now (years later) that it was helpful. The other has ADHD and LDs (which we did not know then) It was torture for her. I'd say it's good for structure, but expensive for what you actually get. Whether it's worth it depends on the kid. I ended up 50/50.

My experience has been completely different. I don't have to force my children to do the worksheets because we have emphasized, from the start, that school work comes first. Everything, and I mean absolutely everything, is secondary to academic achievement and working hard in school. Although my husband and I correct the Kumon worksheets (because we want to closely track their progress), the owner of the Kumon center we use told us that we don't have to correct the worksheets because they will do it anyway. Btw, my children are at the very top of their classes, thanks to the practice, discipline and sense of responsibility that Kumon has introduced; and that we have reinforced at home.

Look, my husband and I consider ourselves to be our children's primary educators, and we spend a lot of time encouraging and supporting their academic growth. Our children excel because we have set the bar high. You get out of it what you put into it. No wonder immigrants come to this country and whip our asses in the classroom. So many of you American parents are unwilling to be inconvenienced for the sake of your children's education. Good luck with that!

I'm a second generation American of east asian descent and I totally understand what you mean here. But please tell me this is a bit of an exaggeration. The sad thing is, true we Asian might dominate the classroom, but we aren't always the ones who necessarily dominate the job/professional fields later on after decades of education and hard work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious, how much does it cost?

I want to say $200 month. Or maybe it's $100 per subject.

Is that once a week for 1 hour?

It's twice per week in the Kumon Center. It takes as long as your child takes to finish the work. It could be 20 minutes, or an hour and a half. The other five days, your child does daily homework (it's 10 pages and the amount of time depends on your child). In this area, the cost ranges from about $150 to $175/month PER subject.

Thanks, that's not bad at all. It would definitely save me some stress.

You have to force your kids to do the worksheets and grade them yourself. Then you have to drive your kid to the center twice a week, not for instruction but to sit at the center and do worksheets. It's incredibly boring for the kids. My kids did it for a while at the Falls Church center. They said Mrs. K. was mean and yelled at kids. One of my kids tell she now (years later) that it was helpful. The other has ADHD and LDs (which we did not know then) It was torture for her. I'd say it's good for structure, but expensive for what you actually get. Whether it's worth it depends on the kid. I ended up 50/50.

My experience has been completely different. I don't have to force my children to do the worksheets because we have emphasized, from the start, that school work comes first. Everything, and I mean absolutely everything, is secondary to academic achievement and working hard in school. Although my husband and I correct the Kumon worksheets (because we want to closely track their progress), the owner of the Kumon center we use told us that we don't have to correct the worksheets because they will do it anyway. Btw, my children are at the very top of their classes, thanks to the practice, discipline and sense of responsibility that Kumon has introduced; and that we have reinforced at home.

Look, my husband and I consider ourselves to be our children's primary educators, and we spend a lot of time encouraging and supporting their academic growth. Our children excel because we have set the bar high. You get out of it what you put into it. No wonder immigrants come to this country and whip our asses in the classroom. So many of you American parents are unwilling to be inconvenienced for the sake of your children's education. Good luck with that!

I'm a second generation American of east asian descent and I totally understand what you mean here. But please tell me this is a bit of an exaggeration. The sad thing is, true we Asian might dominate the classroom, but we aren't always the ones who necessarily dominate the job/professional fields later on after decades of education and hard work.

I'm the PP you're referring to here. I'm not Asian. I'm also second generation, but my parents are Nigerian immigrants. I consider myself to be American because I was born and raised here, but I definitely embrace my Igbo heritage that values academic success and hard work. I don't think that there is anything wrong with that because it has served me and my siblings well. We are all professionals (2 physicians and one lawyer), and we're very happy with our lives.

I just don't understand why some people act as if parents' focusing on academic achievement is akin to child abuse. Many Americans don't seem to have this issue when it comes to their children participating in sports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious, how much does it cost?

I want to say $200 month. Or maybe it's $100 per subject.

Is that once a week for 1 hour?

It's twice per week in the Kumon Center. It takes as long as your child takes to finish the work. It could be 20 minutes, or an hour and a half. The other five days, your child does daily homework (it's 10 pages and the amount of time depends on your child). In this area, the cost ranges from about $150 to $175/month PER subject.

Thanks, that's not bad at all. It would definitely save me some stress.

You have to force your kids to do the worksheets and grade them yourself. Then you have to drive your kid to the center twice a week, not for instruction but to sit at the center and do worksheets. It's incredibly boring for the kids. My kids did it for a while at the Falls Church center. They said Mrs. K. was mean and yelled at kids. One of my kids tell she now (years later) that it was helpful. The other has ADHD and LDs (which we did not know then) It was torture for her. I'd say it's good for structure, but expensive for what you actually get. Whether it's worth it depends on the kid. I ended up 50/50.

My experience has been completely different. I don't have to force my children to do the worksheets because we have emphasized, from the start, that school work comes first. Everything, and I mean absolutely everything, is secondary to academic achievement and working hard in school. Although my husband and I correct the Kumon worksheets (because we want to closely track their progress), the owner of the Kumon center we use told us that we don't have to correct the worksheets because they will do it anyway. Btw, my children are at the very top of their classes, thanks to the practice, discipline and sense of responsibility that Kumon has introduced; and that we have reinforced at home.

Look, my husband and I consider ourselves to be our children's primary educators, and we spend a lot of time encouraging and supporting their academic growth. Our children excel because we have set the bar high. You get out of it what you put into it. No wonder immigrants come to this country and whip our asses in the classroom. So many of you American parents are unwilling to be inconvenienced for the sake of your children's education. Good luck with that!

I'm a second generation American of east asian descent and I totally understand what you mean here. But please tell me this is a bit of an exaggeration. The sad thing is, true we Asian might dominate the classroom, but we aren't always the ones who necessarily dominate the job/professional fields later on after decades of education and hard work.

I'm the PP you're referring to here. I'm not Asian. I'm also second generation, but my parents are Nigerian immigrants. I consider myself to be American because I was born and raised here, but I definitely embrace my Igbo heritage that values academic success and hard work. I don't think that there is anything wrong with that because it has served me and my siblings well. We are all professionals (2 physicians and one lawyer), and we're very happy with our lives.

I just don't understand why some people act as if parents' focusing on academic achievement is akin to child abuse. Many Americans don't seem to have this issue when it comes to their children participating in sports.

Again, I totally understand your priority but are you saying academics really take precedence over family and health? Because that was what I was trying to get at. My parents were most def tiger parents in the traditional sense (siblings and I are doctors and lawyers) but they also made sure my siblings and I were healthy first and foremost and knew about our family/heritage before attaining academic success.